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    Default Re: What to do about North Korea?

    Quote Originally Posted by guido tkp View Post
    'tis true, S&D...they are not considered to be a credible threat...

    but, then again....that's exactly what the powers that be thought about Al Qaeda...
    Al Qaeda was not (and is not) a credible "military" threat. Al Qaeda wasn't (and isn't) a country. Apples and oranges. Terrorism, i.e. the use of weapons of mass destruction (designed or improvised) against targets is something we all must live with in a modern age. It should not be the measure we use to preemptively attack anyone and anything that looks at us funny. That would be the surest way to throw us (and the world) into World War III. That would be the real "big one" as well as the "last one." Today we play for all the marbles wherein one mistake can end everything. This is why even countries that hate each other like India and Pakistan manage to hold off on war (both are Nuclear Powers). Their justifications and mutual threats are CREDIBLE and imminent and they also refuse to take cavalier steps because they know all to well the outcome.

    Don't get me wrong. I'm not a hawk or a dove. Nations are super-organisms and they live and compete in an ever shrinking world. There are times when we must fight. There might even be times that we must preempt (but these are extremely rare), but when you are playing for keeps, when EVERYTHING rests on the gambles you make, it is best to be patient and wait for the sure thing. It is far better to take your lumps and keep on trucking rather than to be rash and come to a full stop. Our leaders (and those of other countries) understand this fact. This is why the United States, for example, hasn't gone to war with any country actually cable to defending itself against us or with an interested allies (who can defend it) in many decades.

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    Kim Jong-un is making threats again... The guy is nuts.
    Doesn't seem to realize, despite the budget cuts,
    We can always find the funds to fight if we're attacked.
    Now his ties to Russia and the Chinese may have cracked.

    It makes countries nervous when a neighbor rocks the boat.
    North Korea's neighbors have a U.N. Council vote.
    They've agreed to sanctions since the Hermit Kingdom has
    Proved its newest leader is a suicidal spaz.

    I bet Putin's wishing Kim Jong-un would shut his mouth;
    Stop with making threats against Koreans in the south.
    Let the Chinese deal with him for now. They keep him fed;
    Propped his dad and grandpa up and look where that has led.

    Now they have a lunatic who's slipping off his leash.
    Can't believe they didn't see this problem coming. Sheesh!
    Not as if the family tree could give them cause for hopes;
    If you're planting cabbage, you get cabbages... You dopes.


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    We have a history with North Korea. They start acting crazy and we draw up a treaty, they sign it and we give them a bunch of money. A couple years will go by and they start acting crazy again, we draw up a new treaty and give them a bunch of money. Anyone see a pattern?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fljoe0 View Post
    We have a history with North Korea. They start acting crazy and we draw up a treaty, they sign it and we give them a bunch of money. A couple years will go by and they start acting crazy again, we draw up a new treaty and give them a bunch of money. Anyone see a pattern?
    This is absolutely correct. The only reason North Korea is rattling the saber is because it has worked for them in the past. Each time they do it, they have to ramp it up to a louder rattle because each time the cry wolf we care less. We have finally reached the point where we are ignoring them (and rightly so).

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    Here is my overly simplistic view of this situation (things are more complex than this but this is my large picture view):

    Stay out of North Korea and let China deal with them. If we leave North Korea alone, China will have to deal with them. Does anyone think that China wants some unstable nuclear country in their back yard attacking their trading partners? As long as we are spending our resources on trying to deal with North Korea, there is no need for China to waste their resources on the problem. China is busy building a gigantic military, let them use it and keep ours out of it.

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    I don't know what to do about it, other than what we are doing. If we bombed them, I don't think China would do anything, but you never know. But, and this is a strong but, if they were to actually do anything violent towards us, then we should retaliate swiftly and and with force, then back away again. We WOULD NOT need to rebuild them. That is what always gets us into a mess, and costs us a lot of money. But I think that all this is is North K. showing their a**es again. Tighten the restricions, maybe someday they'll get the memo.

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    Seen on news this am, South Korea suffered cyberattack, all computers down for hours; NK is suspected. Today KJ-un is supervising a simulated attack on SK.

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    ..really, RG ?? Al Qaeda is not a country ??

    go figure !!!

    doesn't it lie somewhere between Bombastican and I'llblowyouppa ?!?!

    you and fljoe are probably exactly on-the-nose as to what is really going on...but...then again...

    nonetheless, it would be foolish to not take them, or any possible threat, seriously: bush & co did not take the al qaeda threat seriously and even though they 'are not a country' thousands died...thousands more suffered greatly: that is not insignificant...

    the NK's probably will never pose a real threat...but there is no guarantee of that: our govt should always make like a boy scout and be prepared

    the possibility exists that what Haunted alludes to could be true...imagine if they find a way to cripple some of our systems...there are many, many ways to create chaos...there are many, many ways to do damage...

    the japanese were pretty smart, well educated people when they flew across a mighty big ocean to attack pearl harbor...the NK's attack their brothers to the south fairly regularly...the chinese taunt and threaten the japanese and the taiwanese nearly every day...

    shoot...nobody anywhere actually acts sane all the time...

    none of this may ever amount up to anything more than another crazy hill of beans...but the minute we get all chamberlinesque...we somehow, quite often, end up in the same bad spot, anyway...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsSmeej View Post
    Kim Jong-un is making threats again... The guy is nuts.
    Doesn't seem to realize, despite the budget cuts,
    We can always find the funds to fight if we're attacked.
    Now his ties to Russia and the Chinese may have cracked.

    It makes countries nervous when a neighbor rocks the boat.
    North Korea's neighbors have a U.N. Council vote.
    They've agreed to sanctions since the Hermit Kingdom has
    Proved its newest leader is a suicidal spaz.

    I bet Putin's wishing Kim Jong-un would shut his mouth;
    Stop with making threats against Koreans in the south.
    Let the Chinese deal with him for now. They keep him fed;
    Propped his dad and grandpa up and look where that has led.

    Now they have a lunatic who's slipping off his leash.
    Can't believe they didn't see this problem coming. Sheesh!
    Not as if the family tree could give them cause for hopes;
    If you're planting cabbage, you get cabbages... You dopes.

    Squeejie Smeejie, you're brilliant as usual.

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    OMG - you can't make this sh*t up.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...471,b=facebook

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