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Dana Jean

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Yesterday I watched Aileen: the life and death of a serial killer, and The selling of a serial killer, both by Nick Broomfield, who also has made Kurt & Cortney.
I also watched The Brandon Teena Story. All three very well made, and interesting, although the stories are very tragic.
I've watched the Aileen movie. It was fascinating and sad. She was just lost and very angry. I almost believe her story about the first guy abusing her and that's why she killed. I almost think he did, she finally had enough and killed him in self defense. After that, I think she figured, well, I've done it once, it's too late now, I might as well keep on going.
 

Lisey Landon

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I've watched the Aileen movie. It was fascinating and sad. She was just lost and very angry. I almost believe her story about the first guy abusing her and that's why she killed. I almost think he did, she finally had enough and killed him in self defense. After that, I think she figured, well, I've done it once, it's too late now, I might as well keep on going.
My thoughts exactly. But she just wanted the whole thing to be over, so she withdrew everything about rape or self defense. What made me totally confused was her "lawyer"(?!). How can a person like that be allowed in a courtroom? Can anyone become a public defender??? Even the prosecutors turned their back to him when he entered the courtroom...
 
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Sundrop

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- who would connect Y'all Speak Country with Scots/Irish? :smile-new:

I would!!!.....Born and raised in the NC mountains, my grandfather was Scots/Irish and my grandmother was part Cherokee. (Mom's side). Lots of wonderful culture and history in my family.
I'll have to watch this doc later, though....when I have time to pay attention. Usually, with these things, I get very offended because so often, some of them try to make us look like backwoods idiots. I'll give it a listen, though.
 

Out of Order

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This was a multi-episode affair. Was very good, but I'm a sucker for all things Civil War. What really struck me was some of the photos they had of the two. Some I had never seen before......

The ones of Abe were absolutely heartbreaking. Showing the burden he was under.

And Mary Todd's photos were equally good.
 

Dana Jean

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This was a multi-episode affair. Was very good, but I'm a sucker for all things Civil War. What really struck me was some of the photos they had of the two. Some I had never seen before......

The ones of Abe were absolutely heartbreaking. Showing the burden he was under.

And Mary Todd's photos were equally good.
The change in his face is ravaging, although they do think he suffered from some disease. And mary's mental illness--maybe due to the loss of their boy. Wasn't she into seances and stuff to talk to him, or am I mixing them up with someone else?
 

Out of Order

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There is all kinds of speculation about her. Suffice it to say that it is certainly possible with her state of mind during that time. She was utterly devastated over "Willie's" death from typhoid fever. She had lost another son some years before. She also suffered a serious head injury from a carriage accident that not many know about.
 

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Just finished a fifteen part documentary called The Story of Film: An Odyssey. I learned so much from watching it. You can stream it from Netflix and it's broken up into fifteen one-hour segments… phew!! I'd watch a segment every day or two. This documentary really shows how the great movies of all time were directed. The film clips and interviews were great and I fell in love with the Irish accent of the director/narrator Mark Cousins. :love:

Another good thing I recently watched was Woody Allen: A Documentary. It's about three hours long but is broken up into two parts. Despite the disgust I feel about his liason with his stepdaughter, I love, love, love Woody Allen movies. This documentary is excellent. It doesn't shy away from controversy and you really get to know him well through his own words.
 

Dana Jean

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Just finished a fifteen part documentary called The Story of Film: An Odyssey. I learned so much from watching it. You can stream it from Netflix and it's broken up into fifteen one-hour segments… phew!! I'd watch a segment every day or two. This documentary really shows how the great movies of all time were directed. The film clips and interviews were great and I fell in love with the Irish accent of the director/narrator Mark Cousins. :love:

Another good thing I recently watched was Woody Allen: A Documentary. It's about three hours long but is broken up into two parts. Despite the disgust I feel about his liason with his stepdaughter, I love, love, love Woody Allen movies. This documentary is excellent. It doesn't shy away from controversy and you really get to know him well through his own words.
I have the story of film in my list area to watch. I have seen the woody one and it is really good.
 

kingricefan

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I've watched the Aileen movie. It was fascinating and sad. She was just lost and very angry. I almost believe her story about the first guy abusing her and that's why she killed. I almost think he did, she finally had enough and killed him in self defense. After that, I think she figured, well, I've done it once, it's too late now, I might as well keep on going.
Didn't her abuse go all the way back to her grandfather? That was hinted at in the movie. I can never watch that film again- it's just way too heartbreaking for me. The pathos hit way too close to home.
 

Dana Jean

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Didn't her abuse go all the way back to her grandfather? That was hinted at in the movie. I can never watch that film again- it's just way too heartbreaking for me. The pathos hit way too close to home.
Yes. I think her grandfather beat her and there seemed to be the thought there was sexual abuse there.
 

Lisey Landon

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Yes. I think her grandfather beat her and there seemed to be the thought there was sexual abuse there.
One of her childhood friends claimed to have seen horrible abuse from her grandfather, and another reported sexual abuse by her brother. She is also believed to be her grandfather's daughter. Horrible, horrible, horrible. I won't see them again, but I am glad I did see them. No child should ever have to go through something like that.
 

Lisey Landon

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And, yesterday's catch was Sons of Perdition. Extremely interesting, and it is so good to see that there are people helping the exiles/runaways from Colorado City, it must be extremely hard for them to leave everything they know, and start again with nothing. Respect both to those who get out, and to those who help them.
 
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fljoe0

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And, yesterday's catch was Sons of Perdition. Extremely interesting, and it is so good to see that there are people helping the exiles/runaways from Colorado City, it must be extremely hard for them to leave everything they know, and start again with nothing. Respect both to those who get out, and to those who help them.

There is one thing that different radical religious groups have in common. They like to destroy education. These poor people that want to get away have no education and end up going back to the group because there is nothing for them on the outside without some kind of education.
 

Lisey Landon

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There is one thing that different radical religious groups have in common. They like to destroy education. These poor people that want to get away have no education and end up going back to the group because there is nothing for them on the outside without some kind of education.
Yes, that is a very serious matter. The kids in the movie knew nothing about history, or society. They didn't even know who the president was.
 
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skimom2

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Watched two on Friday--BRONIES and WAL-MART: THE HIGH COST OF LOW PRICES. By the end of BRONIES I wanted to slap pretty much everyone involved (Except John DeLancy--lol). The Wal-Mart doc made some good points, but there was also a lot of hysteria, and logical fallacies were tossed about like rice at a wedding. They would have been better served to be a little more restrained--it would have made the case they were trying to construct more compelling. Keep in mind, I'm not a huge Wal-Mart fan, but I don't think they've been sipping on Satan's Kool-Aid either.