Alien 5 !!!!

[CriticAndProud]

Alien: New Movie Confirmed with Director Neill Blomkamp | Variety

I swear, this had better not be a remake of No.1. The series needs a proper send off after the sh!tfest that was Resurrection.

 

[GNTLGNT]

Alien: New Movie Confirmed with Director Neill Blomkamp | Variety

I swear, this had better not be a remake of No.1. The series needs a proper send off after the sh!tfest that was Resurrection.

...for the luva God...why?????.....

 

[misery chastain loves co.]

I agree with both of you! It best not be a remake and why another?? BUT if it isn't a remake this guy might be the one to do another Alien flick. I thought District 9 was really well done and the upcoming Chappie looks promising so the guy knows his sci fi.

 

[Grandpa]

Okay, I really liked Alien, and Aliens is in my top 10 movies of all time.

When they came out with Alien 3, and I heard that it pretty well starts out

Spoiler

with Hicks and Newt DOA

, I refused to watch it, and others in my mindset who did watch it told me I'd made the right choice. Then came Alien 4, and I did watch it, and it was a tiresome exercise in grotesquery (although the swimming scenes were awesomely filmed). I haven't paid attention to the AvP movies. Just seems overdone.

I'm constantly amazed at how producers take a concept, turn it into a dishrag mopping up leftovers, and wring that sucker out until the last few rancid drippings are completely spent.

 

[doowopgirl]

Personally I got bored after the first one. Alien was scary and atmospheric.
after that it was just guns and combat boots, IMO.

 

[CriticAndProud]

When they came out with Alien 3, and I heard that it pretty well starts out

Spoiler

with Hicks and Newt DOA

, I refused to watch it, and others in my mindset who did watch it told me I'd made the right choice.

That's interesting funny. Alien 3 is my favourite of the series. It's easily the darkest, and it doesn't pull any punches. I thought that

Spoiler

killing Hicks, Newt and Bishop (three very good characters)

was very brave, and it certainly sets the tone for the movie. The ending as superb as well.

 

[blunthead]

Alien was the only movie in the franchise worth watching, and it was brilliant. The primary fault with Aliens is that James Cameron, a great director, sucks as a screenwriter while his ego won't allow him to realize it. The rest of the sequels are just icky, stupid failures. I'd love to see another good Alien movie sequel (no remake, thank you very much, which could only fail since the original can't conceivably be matched, not to mention improved on).

 

[Grandpa]

Alien was the only movie in the franchise worth watching, and it was brilliant. The primary fault with Aliens is that James Cameron, a great director, sucks as a screenwriter while his ego won't allow him to realize it. The rest of the sequels are just icky, stupid failures. I'd love to see another good Alien movie sequel (no remake, thank you very much, which could only fail since the original can't conceivably be matched, not to mention improved on).

I like to think (perhaps idealistically) of Terminator and Aliens as being in Camero's pre-ego-ridden days.

Whatever his talents, or not, as a screenwriter, our whole family quotes a bunch of Aliens lines to this day.

 

[kingricefan]

It's not going to be a re-make. It's a new story. I was disappointed with Prometheus- it had so much potential and it ruined the mystery of the aliens origins. I always thought that one of the best things about Alien was the awe inspiring mystery of what the alien was and where it came from. Loved the original Alien and thought the second one was good, too for its non-stop action. After that I don't think any of them hold up.

 

[blunthead]

I like to think (perhaps idealistically) of Terminator and Aliens as being in Camero's pre-ego-ridden days.

Whatever his talents, or not, as a screenwriter, our whole family quotes a bunch of Aliens lines to this day.

I agree that Terminator was a good screenplay, as was T2, though Cameron didn't write them alone. I was just very disappointed in the Aliens screenplay, as well as Titanic's. The thing is sometimes directors decide they have talent which they don't have. M Night Shyamalan decided not to deal with, pay for screenwriters and began writing, and has drawn ridicule as he's not a good screenwriter (except for The Sixth Sense).

 

[kingricefan]

I agree that Terminator was a good screenplay, as was T2, though Cameron didn't write them alone. I was just very disappointed in the Aliens screenplay, as well as Titanic's. The thing is sometimes directors decide they have talent which they don't have. M Night Shyamalan decided not to deal with, pay for screenwriters and began writing, and has drawn ridicule as he's not a good screenwriter (except for The Sixth Sense).

One can only rely on a twist ending scenario for so long before people become jaded with it.

 

[ghost19]

It's not going to be a re-make. It's a new story. I was disappointed with Prometheus- it had so much potential and it ruined the mystery of the aliens origins. I always thought that one of the best things about Alien was the awe inspiring mystery of what the alien was and where it came from. Loved the original Alien and thought the second one was good, too for its non-stop action. After that I don't think any of them hold up.

I agree. I sat thru Prometheus and kept sitting, and kept sitting....it just never did take off at all. I can see where they were trying to go with the plot, but by the time the ending came around, I was just bored.

 

[GNTLGNT]

Alien was the only movie in the franchise worth watching, and it was brilliant. The primary fault with Aliens is that James Cameron, a great director, sucks as a screenwriter while his ego won't allow him to realize it. The rest of the sequels are just icky, stupid failures. I'd love to see another good Alien movie sequel (no remake, thank you very much, which could only fail since the original can't conceivably be matched, not to mention improved on).

...and none have captured the H.R. Giger vibes, as the first one did...

 

[GNTLGNT]

It's not going to be a re-make. It's a new story. I was disappointed with Prometheus- it had so much potential and it ruined the mystery of the aliens origins. I always thought that one of the best things about Alien was the awe inspiring mystery of what the alien was and where it came from. Loved the original Alien and thought the second one was good, too for its non-stop action. After that I don't think any of them hold up.

....I also liked the alien concept in Battleship, though the ET's uniforms were a bit to derivative of the Halo video game look...

 

[GNTLGNT]

I agree. I sat thru Prometheus and kept sitting, and kept sitting....it just never did take off at all. I can see where they were trying to go with the plot, but by the time the ending came around, I was just bored.

...well, that explains your "twitchy" eye...

 

[Mr Nobody]

One can only rely on a twist ending scenario for so long before people become jaded with it.

I know I'm not alone and I've definitely said this before, so forgive me for being boring, but I guessed the twist without even seeing The Sixth Sense...because tbh it's something I might have considered doing, then discarded as being too obvious.
But yeah, by the time he played the twist ending for the third time I was bored with his schtick, and IMO he completely lost his sh!t with The Happening and the "run from the wind!" line. (It probably happened before then, but I skipped a couple of films after Signs.)

But...Alien5 (which is how I styled the title on a long-ago script that I wrote for schizzle and giggles)...
Alien is, without doubt, the best of the lot. Aliens was a good follow-up, partially because it departed from the first to such a degree; it wasn't just more of the same. Alien3 (or 'cubed', as I sometimes call it, though no attempt to cube an alien was made until the pretty risible AvP film) disappointed me greatly when I queued to see it on release day way back when, but has grown on me since - and is actually a bit of a triumph considering Fincher didn't have anything like a proper script to work with/from; he went up a lot in my estimation when I found that out. Alien: Resurrection...I think there's a decent film trying to get out in that one. It just suffered from having to have Ripley in it. The star of the first film isn't any of the cast, it's the creature. That applies more or less to Aliens, too (though Sigourney Weaver might disagree). In the third and fourth instalments, Ripley was the star with the alien being animated scenery, and that's probably why they're a bit flat. I don't necessarily consider AvP and AvP:R as canon, but they were junk in any case and can/should be ignored.
So I think there's life in the franchise and Blomkamp should be able to draw it out...but only if he cans Ripley as a character. There's room for Sigourney Weaver, and probably Michael Biehn...but not the character of Ripley. She's rumoured to be interested, but maybe that comes with a caveat of 'only as Ripley'. If so he should walk away, because it'll be crap. It's not the franchise that's played out, it's that character.

 

[skimom2]

Everything after Aliens was crap. I liked District 9, so I'd likely give this one a chance.

 

[Out of Order]

I thought 4 had some pretty good scenes. The basketball scene was pretty funny, the Ripley specimens were pretty disturbing and the picking your brain part was fun. And of course Ripley asking the classic line about how to get off the ship had me in stitches.

 

[Grandpa]

Alien is, without doubt, the best of the lot. Aliens was a good follow-up, partially because it departed from the first to such a degree; it wasn't just more of the same.

See, I have a doubt. I liked Aliens much better and still marvel at the movie-making involved. That fight between Ripley and the Queen at the end shows CG how it's supposed to be done.

One was a rollercoaster scare movie; one was an action movie. Our family preferred the latter, and we were invested in the characters. Even Burke (and Paul Reiser has never acted better) in his "sleaze out" way.

 

[Mr Nobody]

See, I have a doubt. I liked Aliens much better and still marvel at the movie-making involved. That fight between Ripley and the Queen at the end shows CG how it's supposed to be done.

One was a rollercoaster scare movie; one was an action movie. Our family preferred the latter, and we were invested in the characters. Even Burke (and Paul Reiser has never acted better) in his "sleaze out" way.

Well, I knew someone would.
Agree completely about the craftwork involved, and about Paul Reiser - perhaps he missed trick by not taking on more 'serious' roles. It's also arguable whether Biehn and Paxton have ever produced performances on the same level.
Re: the movie making, though...have you see the extras and 'making of' featurettes at all? I'm not sure which other versions would have them, but the Alien Quadrilogy (9 disc box-set, which is the one I own) does. If you haven't, they're worth looking up. I'm sure you'd find them interesting.