Are musicians our modern day philosophers?

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Nomik

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Why some songs attain popularity so fast, and then drop off rotation just as quickly ....fewer requests, purchases, etc. I'd venture ....
...37 years and counting in radio ma'am, what are you wanting to know?...
That was it. Since I have you on the line, I have another question. Some stations(let's say 95.5 The Mountain) play older songs that I know by heart. Is it me, or have they changed? I swear, sometimes the lyrics are different. That's just me, I'm sure, unless there are other recordings of old songs that they throw in just to confuse people.
 

GNTLGNT

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Why some songs attain popularity so fast, and then drop off rotation just as quickly ....fewer requests, purchases, etc. I'd venture ....
...each station has its own philosophy, which under the surface all amount to the same damn thing....run the living hell out of cuts that they are told by their "consultants" are "hot"...which means heavy rotation at least every three to four hours for a couple of weeks-then back them down to "recurrents", i.e. a few times a week, then they disappear to make way for the next big thing-only to be heard rarely after...it's all about ratings and ad money....no-one makes their own playlists anymore....it's sad that creativity and giving air time to sleeper acts, has been abandoned....
 

GNTLGNT

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That was it. Since I have you on the line, I have another question. Some stations(let's say 95.5 The Mountain) play older songs that I know by heart. Is it me, or have they changed? I swear, sometimes the lyrics are different. That's just me, I'm sure, unless there are other recordings of old songs that they throw in just to confuse people.
...very seldom will a station deviate from the original artists....my biggest gripe is they don't delve into the artists catalogs deep enough...lot of Classic Rock stations only play a couple of cuts from each group....seriously?....I'm pretty sure AC/DC has more than 4 freakin' songs!!!!....
 

Ebdim9th

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That was it. Since I have you on the line, I have another question. Some stations(let's say 95.5 The Mountain) play older songs that I know by heart. Is it me, or have they changed? I swear, sometimes the lyrics are different. That's just me, I'm sure, unless there are other recordings of old songs that they throw in just to confuse people.

You've mentioned these alternate-lyric radio versions before, and unless it's Weird Al, or some other satire, I can't think of too many doubling of songs on the radio like that ... there are certainly plagiarism suits, like Huey Lewis and the News suing Ray Parker Jr. over the similarities between I Want a New Drug and the Ghostbusters theme, although I know that's not what you mean....
 

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...each station has its own philosophy, which under the surface all amount to the same damn thing....run the living hell out of cuts that they are told by their "consultants" are "hot"...which means heavy rotation at least every three to four hours for a couple of weeks-then back them down to "recurrents", i.e. a few times a week, then they disappear to make way for the next big thing-only to be heard rarely after...it's all about ratings and ad money....no-one makes their own playlists anymore....it's sad that creativity and giving air time to sleeper acts, has been abandoned....

I have a station here. I guess I am permitted to say, WXPN. Commercial free, it comes from donations and plays everything to anything. It comes from the University of Pennsylvania. Very cool station, where you can hear Patsy Cline, next up a track you haven't heard from Jimi Hendrix to some Irish marching band.

It can get strange when someone walks in an some funky music is on.
(sister sledge, than comes on some mystical chimes with a beat.)



Introduced me to so many new artists, with their interviews that went on to become well known.






Scott, I remember when you posted your interviews. :) Such a voice you have.
 
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GNTLGNT

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I have a station here. I guess I am permitted to say, WXPN. Commercial free, it comes from donations and plays everything to anything. It comes from the University of Pennsylvania. Very cool station, where you can hear Patsy Cline, next up a track you haven't heard from Jimi Hendrix to some Irish marching band.

It can get strange when someone walks in an some funky music is on.
(sister sledge, than comes on some mystical chimes with a beat.)



Introduced me to so many new artists, with their interviews that went on to become well known.






Scott, I remember when you posted your interviews. :) Such a voice you have.
...thank you for remembering honey...and non-profits can do that as long as they contributors backing their efforts and no ones getting paid...was like my college station, Top 40 cheek to jowl with Gregorian Chants....
 

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Top 40 and Gregorian Chants ... yep, that was WTOH here in Mobile, too, before the frequency lapsed and got sold to another station, so that no matter who that station is ever sold to, the frequency will always go with it, and even if they wanted to, WTOH can never return to the air .... Although if they tried hard enough, I suppose there might be a little FM space left on the local dial somewhere...
 

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...thank you for remembering honey...and non-profits can do that as long as they contributors backing their efforts and no ones getting paid...was like my college station, Top 40 cheek to jowl with Gregorian Chants....
Would you mind sharing that again? I've tried to find a few times, tbh.
This is not a College station. Check out the link. Think they just broadcast from there.
I clicked on it (my phone is uncooperative today). Is there a streaming app for it? I'll look in a bit.
 

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Linkin Park/Meteora, the soundtrack of a divorce.
Nirvana/In Utero, the soundtrack that binds Mom and Son as soulmates.
The Cars/The Cars, the soundtrack that said Boston Bands are awesome!
Led Zeppelin/4, soundtrack that started my love of metal.
The Pretenders/The Pretenders, anthems of my teenage years.
Soundgarden/A-sides, the soundtrack that says Son has opened Mom's music window wide open.
N.W.A./Straight Outta Compton, the soundtrack that says Mom can appreciate younger son's different taste in music.
Queen/News of the World, soundtrack for singing out loud in the car alone.
AC/DC/Highway to Hell, soundtrack that got Mom to get a set of headphones for me.:wink:
Meatloaf/Bat out of Hell, the soundtrack that showed me, I had the coolest Grandmother in the whole world!
Pink Floyd/The Wall, the soundtrack that Teddy and Aggie takes on road trips.


I could go on forever...yeah music is a big part of my life.

Musicians are like the troubadours of old, they travel from city to city, teaching us life lessons and sharing the human experience with us.
 

Nomik

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Getting back to the original question, I believe Diabolic's post included John Lennon's Imagine, for a reason.
You have the Cold War threatening to escalate, the war in Vietnam freshly over, or nearly so. Have you ever been to the Vietnam memorial wall in D.C.? Powerful stuff; the sheer number of names etched into that wall will give you an appreciation for all of the protesting.
Imagine came out (I believe) after the McCarthy trials. (Which were essentially an incarnation if the Salem Witch trials, see The Crucible)
John comes out with this pro communism ballad, and everybody loves it.
I remember a time when my generation bought in to the fear of all things communist/socialist, and I don't want to hash out the pros and cons of any economic, civic, or governmental structure here.
It just seems like maybe this needs a little more pondering.
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too

Perhaps it's naïveté, perhaps it's maturity, but I used to agree with this concept. Now, after living a little, reading some great historical fiction (Outlander), and becoming a little more aware, I can't imagine having NOTHING worth dying for.


Similarly, my theme song (American Pie) inspired me to accumulate binders of research, analyzing every bit of history surrounding the plane crash: every reference, every detail, every possible interpretation, and I still find more. When I first understood,
"Lennon read a book of Marx"
I had to research dirges, of course! I remember thinking:
I've got the Marxist Martyr part, now where exactly was that park?
I love the thrill of discovery.
 

Ebdim9th

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I've gotten very lazy about research ... I am exposed .... hrrmmm ...... Slayer, to me, departs from traditional lyric structures, it's what, as much as completely changing the sound of a style of music to create a new genre in entirety, as did a somewhat similar artist Mercyful Fate/King Diamond. Their descriptions of mindsets, yes gory details of actions, plots, concepts and chapters, musical novels in the latter's case, rapidfire words spit out in tangles of barbed, raw, undisciplined intellectual rage (yes read the lyrics closely, Slayer speaks from a place well above the grunts and thuds of the previous studs and leather purveyors of the form, maybe informal, not precisely educated, but it comes from an intuitive place, something already manifest without help from institutions of higher learning so called, however dubious that binding and restrictive learning process may ultimately prove out to be) driving home social, psychological, spiritual and other horrors, stories that scream the fears that most people are still reticent about voicing ....King Diamond is more shock rock, but he spins tales that read like a novel, in rhyme, well-read even without musical accompaniment ..... still, his thoughts about psychology and religion bleed into the stark word-pictures that burn the images into memory, now and forever, well actually, hopefully forever....
 
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