Author Confronts Book Blogger and Stuff Hits the Fan.

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skimom2

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I read the article yesterday. I got to the part where it becomes 'author stalks blogger' and thought 'Whoa, Nelly! That's no way for a reasonable person to behave!'
But to be fair, the writing was on the wall (sorry) early on. She was clearly obsessive about her 'baby' in the first place (scribbling notes in the margin when presented with the print copy, as though she'd never seen the proofs and/or drafted, re-drafted, then handed it off to an editor).
It's why reviews should be ignored, and also why I'd resist (and have resisted) the 'suggestion'* to build a social media profile - especially if all it really amounts to is the author always having to play nice (you can't even ignore all the ass-hats, lest you get accused of responding only to positive/glowing comments; instead, it's on with the Prozac smile and inanities like 'Good point. Something to consider for next time. Thanks for reading' rather than something rather more earthy and honest. I've used all those btw, on the online writers' group I used to be part of. What I really meant 90% of the time was 'Screw you, Jack'...but as I say, if you don't respond at all, you're aloof/only interested in nice comments and gathering lackies, and so on).
Basically, if readers feel a burning need to 'reach out' to me personally, they can do it the old-fashioned way - by letter - or by rocking up to a signing/reading (should I ever get to that point). If, as is likely, they just want to gob off (maybe to get a rise out of me that they can twist or otherwise use against me)...well, they have their platform(s) upon which to validate their existences (if only to themselves), while for me ignorance would be bliss.
(Of course, if I got big big, I might have a website with a message board. I wouldn't go on it, naturally, and I'd have to remind myself not to peek, particularly at certain sections. But... ;))


* It's actually more like an order. 'But what about Twitter?', they may say.
My response to that is akin to that of The Hound in Game of Thrones: where he says "**** the king", I say "**** Twitter".

Nice if it was as easy as saying 'no'. I don't know any writer currently under contract (and keep in mind, those I know personally are small potatoes writers--who knows about the big guys) who isn't obligated under contract to interact via social media. Twitter, FB, Goodreads (this is my "**** the king"--I hate it) are a given, and most want Instagram, Pnterest, and a F***ing Blog (that's my official title for that part of social media; it deserves capitalization ;D), too. I'm terrible at it, despite constant hounding by the PR dept. I love to talk to people; I hate banging on for sales. Simple as that. This is my 'hideout' site--if Tracy (PR) knew I had this account, she'd be on here pushing or constantly bugging me about it (lol).

Actually, I take back what I said about the 'bigs', too. Mr. King's entrance on Twitter, while nice, was likely due to pressure from marketing (I'm assuming, Ms Mod--don't kill me if I'm wrong), and he's pretty much as big as they come.

ANHWHO... to get back on track, writers who read reviews need to do so with caution. There are good things you can take away from a 'bad' review, but when you can see it's more snark than constructive criticism, there's no shame in ignoring it. Those types of reviews are usually pretty easy to spot from the first sentences. This particular writer is unhinged and obsessed with her own creation, and I sort of get it. I jumped right into revisions of my first book (no lag time at all), and during a stressful time in my life. I fought the editor over every edit: "I had a plan! Every word needs to be just where I put it! YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND IT (great predictor of bad writing--lol)." We fought until she handed it off to another editor. This go round, I was more emotionally stable and had distance, and the edits went great. There were still a few things I balked at, and I got my way. Looking back at the book now, the editor was right on all but two points, and those were the ones I didn't get all defensive about--no was no, and I was serene. This writer needs to find that objectivity about her work, or she'll burn out quickly.
 

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Actually, I take back what I said about the 'bigs', too. Mr. King's entrance on Twitter, while nice, was likely due to pressure from marketing (I'm assuming, Ms Mod--don't kill me if I'm wrong), and he's pretty much as big as they come.

Not really. They'd asked but there was no pressure. My impression was his finally giving in had a lot more to do with Joe (Hill). :smile2:
 

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Mr Nobody

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Nice if it was as easy as saying 'no'. I don't know any writer currently under contract (and keep in mind, those I know personally are small potatoes writers--who knows about the big guys) who isn't obligated under contract to interact via social media. Twitter, FB, Goodreads (this is my "**** the king"--I hate it) are a given, and most want Instagram, Pnterest, and a F***ing Blog (that's my official title for that part of social media; it deserves capitalization ;D), too. I'm terrible at it, despite constant hounding by the PR dept. I love to talk to people; I hate banging on for sales. Simple as that. This is my 'hideout' site--if Tracy (PR) knew I had this account, she'd be on here pushing or constantly bugging me about it (lol).

That was really why I put 'suggestion'. In reality, I know it's anything but that, more a case of 'You have your orders!'
I just don't see the point or value of interacting with readers to that degree, especially if I can't respond 'in kind'. (And I would. I know I would. I might not go to the lengths of stalking them, but eventually someone would snark off and I'd wheel out the Big Guns of Over-reaction. Of course, if anyone did stalk me, I'd stalk them right back. :devilish:)
A blog might be fun. I'd just make up all kinds of random crap and let them get on with it. Or intentionally bore them rigid: 'Big changes today! I had my coffee at 11.05 instead of 11! Rebel, rebel!'
Or maybe snark at the publishers: 'Yes, dear reader, I would be writing the next novel, but I'm obliged to bore you with this instead. So...'
Instagram would be the same pic of my desk with a 'Wish you were here?', 'Guess where I am?' or 'Wheeere's the writer?!' post-it attached to the screen. Maybe all three, if I was feeling saucy. (This is all leading me to believe that I should get out more.)
All in all, though, I'd remind the PR dept that PR and marketing was kind of their job, and being a bit of a mystery never hurt Salinger.
 

hipmamajen

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This story made my stomach churn, because it reminds me of an experience I had in real life, with people I knew and thought I could trust.

Here are some things author needs to know, and what I hope she has learned from this:

1) Not everyone is going to like you, or appreciate the work you do. It doesn't matter why. Stay away from or ignore anyone who doesn't. There are 7 billion people on this planet, just move on to the next one.

2) People are going to say bad things about you. The more well-known you are, the more opinions there will be. The only thing you can do about that is take any of the criticism that is actually helpful and use it to better yourself. The rest of it is just a byproduct of creating something.

3) Don't waste your life energy worrying about this stuff. There is absolutely nothing you can do to make it better. Instead, spend your time doing whatever it is that do you, in the best way you can. As you put more of your work out into the world, you will gather people around you who like what you do. Over time, that will be far more valuable to your heart and your confidence than anything you could say or do to someone throwing mud from behind a computer screen.

I can't believe she did all of the things she did. She seems to have poor decision making skills, both in stalking the blogger all the way to her house, and then writing an article telling the world what an unhinged person she is.

When I was in a similar situation, I wouldn't look at anything about the people involved. I knew that it wouldn't do anything but make me feel hurt and angry, and I didn't need that. I needed to focus on my own work, and doing well at what I was doing.
 

Ebdim9th

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Hale does seem like an unstable person reacting to another possibly unstable person, although in her article/essay none of the links led directly to any of the comments Blythe was supposed to have made about her and her book.... still, I find having civil discourse with others, and breaking it off when they fly off into troll-land, and finally reading nothing more from the thread/site/blog for a time until things cool down are all better ways of handling the situation or just of simply learning to let go of it... still easier said sometimes than done...
 

Lepplady

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This reminds me a great deal of the Ellora Cave fiasco. Blogger blogged about authors (some anonymous) stepping forward about not being paid by romance publisher Ellora's Cave. Now, Ellora's cave is suing the blogger seeking 25,000 and demanding to know who all the comments were made by.
 

do1you9love?

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Did y'all see this one? What Really Happened - Page 1 - Wattpad

Grown man hits a young girl blogger over a review.

People have lost their minds. As I review as well as write, this is troubling (and part of the reason that I do both under a pseudonym).
:down: This is why I am so shy on the internet. I don't facebook, don't tweet, don't join message boards with my real name, etc. People are just so dang screwy, and this current "instant access" world we live in just makes it easier for them to spew crazy on everyone else.

((hugs to all our SKMB writers/reviewers/bloggers/heck - all of us)) Be safe!
 

Neesy

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:down: This is why I am so shy on the internet. I don't facebook, don't tweet, don't join message boards with my real name, etc. People are just so dang screwy, and this current "instant access" world we live in just makes it easier for them to spew crazy on everyone else.

((hugs to all our SKMB writers/reviewers/bloggers/heck - all of us)) Be safe!
You said it all do1you9love? - I could not have said it better myself.