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fljoe0

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The Marlins owner, Jeffrey Loria has been offered 1.6 billion dollars for The Marlins. Not bad for a guy that practically destroyed two teams and is considered by many to be the worst owner in baseball. He bought the Marlins in 2002 for 158 million. So he is about to turn 158 million into 1.6 billion in 15 years. I'll be ecstatic to see him go but hate to see such a butt-head profit like that. I'm sure the stadium that the taxpayers paid for helped add a few hundred million to the value.
 
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GNTLGNT

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AnnaMarie

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Pre-game anthem (Jays in Baltimore)

When he sang the line "our flag was still there"

The crowd hollered. Is there some chant that I'm not familiar with? There was nothing happening that showed on tv.
 

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The Red Sox won the opener over the Pirates , but there a still question marks about this team. Can David Price achieve success in the playoffs and can the pitching staff stay healthy for the season? Can Manager John Farrell and the Red Sox advance to and win another world series ?
 

DiO'Bolic

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Yes the AL. The only league that matters!
In the National League, managers are frequently faced with the need to decide whether it is more important to pinch hit a better batter for the pitcher when the pitcher's at bat comes at a crucial point in the game. If the pitcher is doing well or if there are few good pitchers available, this essentially becomes a trade of offensive production at the expense of defense!

In the American League, it's put in the fat aging gimpy non-gloving slugger that couldn't play defense if his life depended on it.
 

swiftdog2.0

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In the National League, managers are frequently faced with the need to decide whether it is more important to pinch hit a better batter for the pitcher when the pitcher's at bat comes at a crucial point in the game. If the pitcher is doing well or if there are few good pitchers available, this essentially becomes a trade of offensive production at the expense of defense!

In the American League, it's put in the fat aging gimpy non-gloving slugger that couldn't play defense if his life depended on it.

Sort of true.

However, pitching in the AL is usually superior due to there not being any easy outs like you typically get with pitcher and number 8 hitter in the NL. Typically, if you can't deal in the AL you get traded to an NL team.
 

swiftdog2.0

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The Red Sox won the opener over the Pirates , but there a still question marks about this team. Can David Price achieve success in the playoffs and can the pitching staff stay healthy for the season? Can Manager John Farrell and the Red Sox advance to and win another world series ?

The playoff win ship for Price has sailed. Sale should pick up that slack.

Should get to the WS as long as the bullpen doesn't implode.

Winning it is another story.
 

DiO'Bolic

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Sort of true.

However, pitching in the AL is usually superior due to there not being any easy outs like you typically get with pitcher and number 8 hitter in the NL. Typically, if you can't deal in the AL you get traded to an NL team.
The NL produces a more interesting style of baseball, and NL fans consistently turn out in greater numbers. Do they even know what a hit-and-run or a bunt is in the AL?
 

swiftdog2.0

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The NL produces a more interesting style of baseball, and NL fans consistently turn out in greater numbers. Do they even know what a hit-and-run or a bunt is in the AL?

We know all about the hit and run and bunt. Don't need them when most line ups can rake 1-9. It's just a different approach. One's not necessarily better than the other.

Don't know about there being a greater number of NL fans.
 

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We're AL and every game is a sell out. Probably the most expensive tickets in the entire MLB too.

Fortunately we have good tickets to two games this year, bought before they went on general sale. All that's available now is nose-bleeds.
 

thekidd12

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We know all about the hit and run and bunt. Don't need them when most line ups can rake 1-9. It's just a different approach. One's not necessarily better than the other.

Don't know about there being a greater number of NL fans.
Been a Red Sox fan since the first time I saw Fred Lynn roaming center field and tearing up pitching staffs in his rookie year. Having said that must admit I enjoy the game being played by the original rules a little bit more.

DH makes for less strategy I think. Just leave pitchers in until they get gassed then go to one of those 100 MPH flamethrowers for an inning each without having to worry about them getting an AB.

As a coach for the last 25 years or so really enjoy making decisions on when to pinch hit for starter or if he is a good hitter(Bumgardner, from NC where we teach our pitchers to hit) leaving him in to swing.

Even in AL you have some teams who play NL type ball, KC Royals, based around defense and speed with some success.

Whether AL or NL fan we all should be glad the greatest game ever invented has begun again.
 

DiO'Bolic

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Been a Red Sox fan since the first time I saw Fred Lynn roaming center field and tearing up pitching staffs in his rookie year. Having said that must admit I enjoy the game being played by the original rules a little bit more.

DH makes for less strategy I think. Just leave pitchers in until they get gassed then go to one of those 100 MPH flamethrowers for an inning each without having to worry about them getting an AB.

As a coach for the last 25 years or so really enjoy making decisions on when to pinch hit for starter or if he is a good hitter(Bumgardner, from NC where we teach our pitchers to hit) leaving him in to swing.

Even in AL you have some teams who play NL type ball, KC Royals, based around defense and speed with some success.

Whether AL or NL fan we all should be glad the greatest game ever invented has begun again.

I coached girls softball for a number of years. One of the most effective strategies for a left hander was the slap hit or slap bunt. I realize it isn't an effective tool in baseball because of the 60' bases, but it is fun to watch on the rare occasion it's utilized.

 

fljoe0

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Been a Red Sox fan since the first time I saw Fred Lynn roaming center field and tearing up pitching staffs in his rookie year. Having said that must admit I enjoy the game being played by the original rules a little bit more.

DH makes for less strategy I think. Just leave pitchers in until they get gassed then go to one of those 100 MPH flamethrowers for an inning each without having to worry about them getting an AB.

As a coach for the last 25 years or so really enjoy making decisions on when to pinch hit for starter or if he is a good hitter(Bumgardner, from NC where we teach our pitchers to hit) leaving him in to swing.

Even in AL you have some teams who play NL type ball, KC Royals, based around defense and speed with some success.

Whether AL or NL fan we all should be glad the greatest game ever invented has begun again.

I prefer to have the pitchers hit too but at this point, I just want the rules to be the same in both leagues even if it means the DH in the NL.

Making the decision for the pitchers to hit is similar to the situation in basketball when you have a great big guy that can't shoot free throws. You have to make a decision whether to leave him in late in the game when the free throw shooting can be critical.
 

thekidd12

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I coached girls softball for a number of years. One of the most effective strategies for a left hander was the slap hit or slap bunt. I realize it isn't an effective tool in baseball because of the 60' bases, but it is fun to watch on the rare occasion it's utilized.

My daughter played fast pitch for 10 years. Enjoyed the game a lot. Really like the emphasis on defense.

My youngest son is a junior in high school. Bats left handed.

Has 3 slap hits this year alone in 13 games.

3rd basemen and shortstops just go huh?

Then they are in on grass for rest of game when he comes up so if he goes backside a 5 hopper often squeezes through to left field.

Looks like a line drive in score book though.