I had to do it once a week for 16 weeks. (Grand Jury) - never got to see anyone, just hear from witnesses.
Casey Anthony: An American Murder Mystery
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Oh my god, I would so have convicted this b*tch! She was out partying, getting bella vita tattoos and not once being concerned about her child. Not once. Not ever. And did everything possible to blame others for everything. She accepted no responsibility for anything.
I don't like to wish ill will on people, because Karma listens, but....
I don't like to wish ill will on people, because Karma listens, but....
Her trying to throw her dad under the bus was a nice tactic. That's a helluva yarn cooked up by her attorney. You don't have to prove the abuse against dad, just the mere mention of it to a jury is enough to fog up things.
I wouldn't have been fogged. I may have wondered, "did he?" But I would never have let it be a pass to kill your baby. EVER. She is a piece of trash. Not her daughter thrown away in garbage bags.
Sociopath and narcissistic for sure. Goes to show you how a 90 degree monkey wrench thrown into a case can screw up a jury's mindset.
I just don't get how it happened.
I mean, Scott Peterson was convicted on circumstantial evidence. And yes, I think he did it.
I will say, maybe they over shot their charge of murder. How could they prove murder? But she definitely killed the kid -- whether on purpose or accident. And maybe that's where the rub was. They could speculate on murder, planned and carried out, or they could've gone with accidental? I can't remember all the details. I just know in my heart I would've convicted her no matter what. I wouldn't have let her walk.
Was the jury allowed to consider lesser charges of manslaughter etc? Or was murder it?
The prosecution always seems to want to go a little farther than what they have evidence for. One of my reasons for opposing the death penalty is because of the prosecutors abuse of it. I think they screw up a lot of cases using the death penalty. I think a death penalty charge screws up the jury unless it's a flawless case or some complete dirtbag like Dylann Roof.
The prosecution over reached with the George Zimmerman case too. A negligent homicide or manslaughter charge probably would have got a conviction but there was no way to prove the premeditation part of a second degree murder charge.
I would have been more than happy to flip the switch on this person while she sat on an electric chair. She deserved to be put down like the dog that she is. She took her own daughter's life away and felt no remorse whatsoever. How can a person do something like that? How? Karma is definitely going to catch up with her in the end.
Maybe George Zimmerman will shoot her and get convicted of it.
Catching up. Watching the second one now. I have a feeling this is going to make me more upset than the first.
Nitpick. I don't like this woman - say sorry, I don't know her name - A Nancy Grace type reporter, maybe from that same network. The voice grates.
Nitpick. I don't like this woman - say sorry, I don't know her name - A Nancy Grace type reporter, maybe from that same network. The voice grates.
Casey Anthony doesn't seem to possess any redeeming qualities whatsoever. It's like she's Satan's assassin or something.
Wow! Jurors aren't given all of the facts and so can only vote according to what they know. Even though there was a mountain of circumstantial evidence against her, it didn't prove she killed her daughter beyond reasonable doubt. Prosecutors really dropped the ball on this one. Thanks NN, for finding this article.
I'm sorry, but, I watched the trial. I heard the evidence they heard. I would have convicted her of at the very least manslaughter. I think there was plenty of evidence.
It's strange that there wasn't enough evidence to at least come up with a guilty verdict on one of the counts.
-Biological mother goes 31 days without mentioning to anyone her daughter is missing, not to mom or dad, no one. Child neglect
-Completely fabricates story about non-existent nanny with no proof of the child ever being at the location she points out to investigators. Obstruction
-Completely fabricates story about her non-existent job and supervisors.
-Gives no reason for doing any of the above other than she was scared.
-Shows no remorse nor concern during the 31 day window where the child was missing. In fact, lives it up while her child is missing, and again, never sounds the alarm that her biological child is missing.
-Casey's vehicle trunk indicates signs of a decomposing human body....and the story about the smell being caused by a forgotten bag of trash in the trunk? Trash doesn't smell like a decomposed human body, not even close. The only thing that smells like a decomposing human is a decomposing human.
-Search history on computer for uses for Chloroform.
-Child's remains are found very close to where Casey was living at the time with her mom and dad.
Circumstantial? Maybe, but how much circumstantial evidence do you need to build before a jury could at least acknowledge she had something to do with the disappearance, which translates to motive, then you start filling in the timeline with all the above information. Capital murder? Maybe a stretch for that since you have to prove pre-meditation for capital murder, which it looks like there was from the facts of the case imho. But, giving her a pass on that one, conspiracy to commit murder seems like a no brainer. How did they not prove that? Her lawyer was amazing, there's no doubt about that, but I'm a bit surprised the jury didn't see thru some of the smokescreen he created and stick to the evidence at hand.
-Biological mother goes 31 days without mentioning to anyone her daughter is missing, not to mom or dad, no one. Child neglect
-Completely fabricates story about non-existent nanny with no proof of the child ever being at the location she points out to investigators. Obstruction
-Completely fabricates story about her non-existent job and supervisors.
-Gives no reason for doing any of the above other than she was scared.
-Shows no remorse nor concern during the 31 day window where the child was missing. In fact, lives it up while her child is missing, and again, never sounds the alarm that her biological child is missing.
-Casey's vehicle trunk indicates signs of a decomposing human body....and the story about the smell being caused by a forgotten bag of trash in the trunk? Trash doesn't smell like a decomposed human body, not even close. The only thing that smells like a decomposing human is a decomposing human.
-Search history on computer for uses for Chloroform.
-Child's remains are found very close to where Casey was living at the time with her mom and dad.
Circumstantial? Maybe, but how much circumstantial evidence do you need to build before a jury could at least acknowledge she had something to do with the disappearance, which translates to motive, then you start filling in the timeline with all the above information. Capital murder? Maybe a stretch for that since you have to prove pre-meditation for capital murder, which it looks like there was from the facts of the case imho. But, giving her a pass on that one, conspiracy to commit murder seems like a no brainer. How did they not prove that? Her lawyer was amazing, there's no doubt about that, but I'm a bit surprised the jury didn't see thru some of the smokescreen he created and stick to the evidence at hand.
I would have too, if I could. But the thing is - that juror mentioned the law.
I think it is just terrible that she got off.
When I had to serve on that Grand Jury, lord - there were some days when we just had to listen to laws read- the way they are worded. Some of these laws took more than an hour to listen to- even before you get a chance to even hear the case. Each case, whatever it pertained to had a set of laws you had to understand and follow, if you agreed to it or not.
It's the law.
You have to. Shame of it all, you have to follow the laws as they are written and as a a juror, follow them - regardless of how you think.
Oh, we all talked about how messed up it was in some cases, after the recording light went off - and shook our heads over some things we did, or feel good getting a case thrown out for a good person.
Yes, I heard the murder laws. One we threw out, one is going down big-big.
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If it wasn't lack of evidence, then it was pressure from the other juror members, maybe not intentionally, but there nonetheless, to set the she devil free. That one juror who believed Casey Anthony was guilty as sin became convinced that he would never sway the other jurors to convict her, so he changed his vote and they acquitted her. I'm just real glad it wasn't me sitting on that jury. What happens when they don't all agree on a verdict? A hung jury? New trial? Injustice has been served.
Bottom line, Casey Anthony was found not guilty because she is a good looking, young, female. Really.
Dang. I missed the Edit time.
However, in the Amanda Knox case (in a different country/society) being attractive, young and female worked against her .