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chief4db

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I know this sounds a little morbid. But one day were all going to the next life. Stephen King almost went once already. I was thinking about that accident and started thinking about all the works that came out since then that we as constant readers would have never gotten to enjoy. 11/22/63-dr.sleep, under the dome, duma key, bill hodges trilogy, dark towers just to name a few. It's crazy how fast time goes.

One day he will pass and as the years go by we will miss him more and more. Ofcourse this goes to the selfish side of us. Waiting for that next book to come out to get our sk fix and it just won't come. This is the cool part. Wouldn't it be an absolute dream if starting years ago he was writing an extra book a year or a year and a 1/2 that he never submitted. That would be so cool if there were 8 novels or short stories ect that would be released 1 a year or something like that. Ofcourse that is what we do to people with a special talent. We just want more and more. A lot of times we don't realize of much we don't appreciate people till their gone,but I think sk is an exception to the rule. We as constant readers do appreciate him. I see a ton of thank yous not just here but every entity he takes part him and I believe he knows it. The link is strong between sk and his fans that a lot of other artists don't have that connection.

Lastly I apoligize to anyone who feels different, ofcourse I can't possible speak for the millions of fans out there. But for the most part I believe the relationship between sk and his readers is a unique one and we r so lucky to have him.
 

Nomik

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I know this sounds a little morbid. But one day were all going to the next life. Stephen King almost went once already. I was thinking about that accident and started thinking about all the works that came out since then that we as constant readers would have never gotten to enjoy. 11/22/63-dr.sleep, under the dome, duma key, bill hodges trilogy, dark towers just to name a few. It's crazy how fast time goes.

One day he will pass and as the years go by we will miss him more and more. Ofcourse this goes to the selfish side of us. Waiting for that next book to come out to get our sk fix and it just won't come. This is the cool part. Wouldn't it be an absolute dream if starting years ago he was writing an extra book a year or a year and a 1/2 that he never submitted. That would be so cool if there were 8 novels or short stories ect that would be released 1 a year or something like that. Ofcourse that is what we do to people with a special talent. We just want more and more. A lot of times we don't realize of much we don't appreciate people till their gone,but I think sk is an exception to the rule. We as constant readers do appreciate him. I see a ton of thank yous not just here but every entity he takes part him and I believe he knows it. The link is strong between sk and his fans that a lot of other artists don't have that connection.

Lastly I apoligize to anyone who feels different, ofcourse I can't possible speak for the millions of fans out there. But for the most part I believe the relationship between sk and his readers is a unique one and we r so lucky to have him.
that is a sad thought and I don't want to cry right now so I will agree with what you said. It was a good thing to say, just hard to read.
 

Gerald

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He has generally two books a year. So he should write more and not submit them? I think the quality might go down if he wrote even more, it's already a lot. You could also read one of the books published each year and put the other one away for now.

I think he's not among the writers where you can say he didn't publish enough. In any case, I'm sure there'll be posthumous works. There are novels he didn't finish ( Unpublished and uncollected works by Stephen King - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ), it's possible Joe or somebody else finishes those.
But, yeah, it is a little morbid to think about, but morbid is his middle name (or was it Edwin?).
 

skimom2

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I just read a 2012 interview with Mr. King where he addresses 'trunk novels'. At that time, at least, he had none. He said that TWTTK and Doctor Sleep were finished and Joyland nearly so (with the comment that "Joe could finish it in his sleep" :) ), and that was the end. No trunkers. I really hope that, unless he specifically instructed otherwise, his incunkabilia would stay that way. Unpublished stuff, especially from someone as prolific and respected as Mr. King, is unpublished for a reason: he didn't think it was good enough (for whatever reason). Posthumous novels make me cringe, because I feel for the author. This is their swan song, and many times it is not something the writer was finished or satisfied with. Just my 2 cents.
 

Gerald

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Unpublished stuff, especially from someone as prolific and respected as Mr. King, is unpublished for a reason: he didn't think it was good enough (for whatever reason).

It doesn't have to be unfinished/unpublished because they didn't think it was good enough. They also can simply get stuck or were not ready yet to complete it at the time. Remember Under the Dome came out of the unfinished/unpublished The Cannibals. This could happen with other unfinished/unpublished manuscripts also.
 

skimom2

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It doesn't have to be unfinished/unpublished because they didn't think it was good enough. They also can simply get stuck or were not ready yet to complete it at the time. Remember Under the Dome came out of the unfinished/unpublished The Cannibals. This could happen with other unfinished/unpublished manuscripts also.
Sure it could. But it should be up to the author what is published. If there is no direction that something should be finished by someone else or printed unfinished, the work (whatever it might be) should be treated how the author left it in life: unpublished.
 

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Sure it could. But it should be up to the author what is published. If there is no direction that something should be finished by someone else or printed unfinished, the work (whatever it might be) should be treated how the author left it in life: unpublished.

It's already happened. I don't have it, but this contains a chapter from the unpublished Sword in the Darkness and an unpublished poem.

Cemetery Dance Publications: Stephen King: Uncollected, Unpublished

Purists don't like it, but if another author can finish an unfinished work - especially an author who's already written with him, like Joe - why not? He said when he wrote Joyland that if he didn't finish it, Joe knows his style well enough he could - I don't think he's against it himself.
 

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I just read a 2012 interview with Mr. King where he addresses 'trunk novels'. At that time, at least, he had none. He said that TWTTK and Doctor Sleep were finished and Joyland nearly so (with the comment that "Joe could finish it in his sleep" :) ), and that was the end. No trunkers. I really hope that, unless he specifically instructed otherwise, his incunkabilia would stay that way. Unpublished stuff, especially from someone as prolific and respected as Mr. King, is unpublished for a reason: he didn't think it was good enough (for whatever reason). Posthumous novels make me cringe, because I feel for the author. This is their swan song, and many times it is not something the writer was finished or satisfied with. Just my 2 cents.
I feel the same. The muse sends what it sends. I would have more respect for someone who knew what to publish and what not to. It's kind of like when bands get back together for the money.
 

skimom2

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It's already happened. I don't have it, but this contains a chapter from the unpublished Sword in the Darkness and an unpublished poem.

Cemetery Dance Publications: Stephen King: Uncollected, Unpublished
Correct. Printed WITH HIS PERMISSION. A writer's work is his or her intellectual property. They can do whatever they want to do with it; it's when someone aside from the author and without their explicit permission messes with unpublished stuff that things get dicey.
 

Gerald

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Correct. Printed WITH HIS PERMISSION. A writer's work is his or her intellectual property. They can do whatever they want to do with it; it's when someone aside from the author and without their explicit permission messes with unpublished stuff that things get dicey.

Of course. But they can't do that when it's copyrighted. I suppose all his unpublished work is protected in some way.
 

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It's ghoulish, but it happens. I've read lots of posthumous stuff from dead cats that I knew would rather not have such works available. I bet King has tons of scribbles packed away, enough to make us true connies salivate. Eventually, they'll all come out. They always do, whether the author wishes them to or not. Probably not in our lifetime, but eventually.

Unless he has it all burnt, that is. Which he won't.

Criswell predicts...
 

Gerald

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It's ghoulish, but it happens. I've read lots of posthumous stuff from dead cats that I knew would rather not have such works available. I bet King has tons of scribbles packed away, enough to make us true connies salivate. Eventually, they'll all come out. They always do, whether the author wishes them to or not. Probably not in our lifetime, but eventually.

It think so too, it seems unavoidable. He intends for Sword in the Darkness never to be published, yet already a chapter has been. It is very hard to resist for publishers to leave unpublished works from a majorly selling writer alone, especially when it's finished.

But I think if a book is unfinished and it's essentially a good book, but the writer just got 'stuck' somehow, if it can be finished by a writer close in style and tone, it's not necessarily a bad thing.
 

Nomik

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It's already happened. I don't have it, but this contains a chapter from the unpublished Sword in the Darkness and an unpublished poem.

Cemetery Dance Publications: Stephen King: Uncollected, Unpublished

Purists don't like it, but if another author can finish an unfinished work - especially an author who's already written with him, like Joe - why not? He said when he wrote Joyland that if he didn't finish it, Joe knows his style well enough he could - I don't think he's against it himself.

It think so too, it seems unavoidable. He intends for Sword in the Darkness never to be published, yet already a chapter has been. It is very hard to resist for publishers to leave unpublished works from a majorly selling writer alone, especially when it's finished.

But I think if a book is unfinished and it's essentially a good book, but the writer just got 'stuck' somehow, if it can be finished by a writer close in style and tone, it's not necessarily a bad thing.
I agree but I am confused. You see, in my reality, THE MAN IS NOT DEAD!!! Posthumous seems a little hasty at this point. How could this happen? Outrageous!! I'm not sure it would be so easy to sneak a posthumous -anything- by him.
 

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Posthumous novels make me cringe, because I feel for the author. This is their swan song, and many times it is not something the writer was finished or satisfied with. Just my 2 cents.

Ah, the Johnny Cash syndrome. How many songs were released after the man had passed in 2003? I think they finally reached the end of it a year or so ago, and a good chunk of it was questionable at best. I sure hope that doesn't happen to SK. I'd rather read something he thought was up to snuff than every single page that had been marked with his scribbles or half-ideas. I'm dreading the "alternate endings" or "mistakes left in" or "new pages found" books that'll surface after SK leaves us. A 700 page version of The Colorado Kid with three different endings? Lordy no!
 

Nomik

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. . . No comment. ( I am going to read the Dark Tower books again, I only finished one through three and I was distracted)...that's it..where is the "kick" emoji?
 
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skimom2

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Ah, the Johnny Cash syndrome. How many songs were released after the man had passed in 2003? I think they finally reached the end of it a year or so ago, and a good chunk of it was questionable at best. I sure hope that doesn't happen to SK. I'd rather read something he thought was up to snuff than every single page that had been marked with his scribbles or half-ideas. I'm dreading the "alternate endings" or "mistakes left in" or "new pages found" books that'll surface after SK leaves us. A 700 page version of The Colorado Kid with three different endings? Lordy no!
One of the first books I reviewed was Maeve Binchy's last book (as opposed to the two books of her short stories that have come out in the last couple of years--first was pretty good, the second sketchy as hell. I hope they're finished milking their cash cow), and it was just sad. Whether one likes 'women's lit' or not, her talent for creating believable characters and stories that felt personal can't be denied. The last novel, though, was clearly NOT ready for publication. While some scenes/chapters were lovely, a great many of them read more like author's notes--ideas that weren't yet fleshed out enough to be published. My guess is that the 'finished' bits were maybe second draft; the rest in first draft (at best). It was rushed out right after her death, and it's a damn shame. No author wants to be remembered for what they DIDN'T have ready for publication.
 

Nomik

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One of the first books I reviewed was Maeve Binchy's last book (as opposed to the two books of her short stories that have come out in the last couple of years--first was pretty good, the second sketchy as hell. I hope they're finished milking their cash cow), and it was just sad. Whether one likes 'women's lit' or not, her talent for creating believable characters and stories that felt personal can't be denied. The last novel, though, was clearly NOT ready for publication. While some scenes/chapters were lovely, a great many of them read more like author's notes--ideas that weren't yet fleshed out enough to be published. My guess is that the 'finished' bits were maybe second draft; the rest in first draft (at best). It was rushed out right after her death, and it's a damn shame. No author wants to be remembered for what they DIDN'T have ready for publication.
I was going to ask for the title, then I re read your post and decided not to. Good job! I agree, that would be humiliating.
 

Lynnie L

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Why are we talking about this as if he's dead? I don't know if he's holding back unpublished stuff, but I for one will be happy to keep re-reading from the mountains of books he's already written if he isn't. In the meantime, he's alive and well on planet Earth and hopefully will continue to create new stories for some time to come.