Deadly shooting during live TV news report

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Lily Sawyer

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Not until the same gun laws that Australia and New Zealand have in place are adopted by the U.S.

We can't have a national registry of mentally unhinged folks because of medical privacy laws. Taking away second amendment rights isn't the answer to ending senseless gun violence in the U.S.

Perhaps it's time to reconsider
  • having a national registry of individuals who have a history of violence or are considered likely to harm themselves and/or others with a firearm
  • mandating commercial gun shops consult the registry before selling to anyone, and prohibiting the sale of firearms to those individuals on the registry
  • prohibiting the sale of firearms at gun shows
  • mandating private gun sellers to report private sales of firearms to ATF (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms) and local police

It's not a perfect system and it *does* infringe on individual medical privacy, but it's a start. In the absence of gun rights activists' solutions for ending senseless acts of gun violence, I don't see anywhere else to begin addressing this appalling phenomenon in the U.S.
 

Out of Order

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Screen grab of the shooter...
 

Out of Order

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I can't tell much from this, but it looks like a white male, age 30-40, maybe 5'6" or 5'7", wearing a navy anorak or zip jacket.

Hey, it's Anyman Doe, your local homegrown terrorist. If he doesn't get you in the cinema, he'll take you out in a mall somewhere.

To think it was captured during the camera guy's death is haunting. Hard to tell from that pic, but they are saying now they have a name and his car identified. School's in the area locked down......
 

PatInTheHat

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It will never stop.
But it very well might slow down a might if guns stop being sold, in both sales pitch and design, and by design, and by so many influences, as being somehow, sexy.
It's perpetuated most greatly by this unbalanced, 'arm yourself to the teeth if you love America', mentality, which is also being sold, and bought up like ice cold lemonade on a hot day.
Guns ain't sexy, they're just loud and stink up the joint, not too much different than an obnoxious drunk that likes to eat beans, to me anyway.
 

@PM

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Really bizarre this.

Will it ever stop? No, even with strict regulations involving firearms it's still possible to obtain one. In the Netherlands one needs to be a member of a shooting association, or be a registred hunter, and one can only become one of those (or both) with government-issued proof of having no criminal record. Also police and military personnell have firearms of course.

Still there was a shooting a few years ago in a shopping mall, resulting in 7 deaths (including the shooter) and 17 wounded. How did that happen? Well, this man had no criminal record and was a member of a shooting association.

Another potential weapon is perfectly legal to be operated by anyone with a valid driver's license.
 

Pucker

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There may be ways to curtail the availability of hand guns -- which are designed for no purpose but shooting people -- to people who can be shown to be "unhinged" in some way, but you're going to run into all kinds of obstacles from both "strict constitutionalists" and "social scientists" (not to mention actual scientists). Accomplishing anything through what the legislature has become in this country . . . well . . . good luck.

I don't know the answer.

I just heard this morning that the guy who jumped the fence at the White House a while back was loose and running around with a knife in a courtroom somewhere yesterday.

This country is weird.

We treat you like a criminal whenever you want to fly anywhere, but virtually anyone can find a place to arm himself if he really wants to and the southern border may as well be a "welcome" mat. I honestly have no idea how you can successfully monitor -- what is it now? -- 350 million people.

Certain political intransigents on both sides are going to have to find some way to start calling "crazy" what it is and stop hiding behind such nebulous (and variable) concepts as "freedom" and "empowerment" or (as my old grampy used to say) it's likely to get worse before it gets better.

How?

Hell if I know. It's all shifting sand. You'll probably hear an awful lot about this -- what with the election coming up and all -- but I doubt you'll see much real action. We've gone far afield from the founding principles in this nation, and it's no use looking back, because there is no trail of breadcrumbs and, as Carl Childers summed up rather nicely . . . it's too big.