In Lockett's case, I don't think 40 minutes of suffering was enough. I haven't read much about it but I think he confessed.
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To that I agree... Sort of like the BLM/Bundy thing, eh?
I was going to say something and decided not to but I gots to say something to get rid of this window so... Something
To that I agree... Sort of like the BLM/Bundy thing, eh?
Sure. Somewhat different stakes, but sure. It's all a big, interconnected world.
Ahhh, my former home state. Hey, the OU (my alma mater, well one of them anyway) football team has been pretty awesome over the years!
I always hear the word justice bandied about with this topic. If that's what people want, they live on the wrong planet. Is this a deterrent or just a show of force to assuage fears and satiate the victims? I don't know. I do know that murder and rape haven't stopped much, so not sure it's been effective. But as far as justice, unless it was the victim's family that got to kill the guy, not much justice in it really.
Why don't we buy an island and send all of them there instead. Have a Lord of the Flies showdown. Those that win, we send in to kill terrorists.
I always hear the word justice bandied about with this topic. If that's what people want, they live on the wrong planet. Is this a deterrent or just a show of force to assuage fears and satiate the victims? I don't know. I do know that murder and rape haven't stopped much, so not sure it's been effective. But as far as justice, unless it was the victim's family that got to kill the guy, not much justice in it really.
Why don't we buy an island and send all of them there instead. Have a Lord of the Flies showdown. Those that win, we send in to kill terrorists.
My catchphrase for this is:
"Life is a rich tapestry"
Feel free to use it to impress your friends, family and coworkers.
I like your idea, in theory, but then I think, "Nah. We'd just have The Rock, and no one needs a Nic Cage infestation."
Scott, do the really nasty types eat with the general population or do they get their food at their cells?
Because if it's the latter, I'm thinking they can be told, "We'll invite the victim's family to help with your food prep now and then. We're not going to tell you which days, though."
Every now and then, say, "Oh, the victim's family stopped in three or four days ago to help with the food. How'd it taste?"
Because if it's the latter, I'm thinking they can be told, "We'll invite the victim's family to help with your food prep now and then. We're not going to tell you which days, though."
Every now and then, say, "Oh, the victim's family stopped in three or four days ago to help with the food. How'd it taste?"
I owe you another beer someday sir...very well said. I keep hearing about "moral" plane? Where were the person's morals that killed a kid, or raped then strangled a woman like the guy who was just put to death in Oklahoma? Morality would have been putting a bullet in his head and saving everyone some money and would have also been a helluva lot more merciful than anything he showed his victim.
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The thing about the DNA being used to exonerate people is also a problem as there are likely some errors made in the collection back in the seventies,eighties,etc,and and the value of these are questionable..while I do approve of people who are demonstrably innocent,beyond a doubt,being released,I would bet my hi hat that there are also some guilty folks that have been released simply on the lack or presence of questionable DNA.DNA is trumpeted as this great crime solver but steps have to be taken to insure it is collected correctly,without cross contamination,and a clear concise chain of custody of the evidence through collection,to storage,to introduction at trial..am betting there were lots of errors back in the day..wanted to thank all for responding,as this is a tough issue and no easy answers are readily available..
Or go the “Escape From New York” route. But instead of Manhattan, make it Detroit. Half the work on its ambiance is already done.
They tried that. It's called Australia.
Gotta say first that I'm against the death penalty. Too much room for error that an innocent person is killed by mistake. Also that murder is murder, no matter who does it.
But. If someone MUST die, here are my two points of view:
1) If they can put a dog or cat down with one shot that works instantly, costs thirty bucks and doesn't seem to cause them any pain, why can't they do it for people?
2) Instead of using cute and fully innocent animals for drug or cosmetics testing, use these animals instead.
But. If someone MUST die, here are my two points of view:
1) If they can put a dog or cat down with one shot that works instantly, costs thirty bucks and doesn't seem to cause them any pain, why can't they do it for people?
2) Instead of using cute and fully innocent animals for drug or cosmetics testing, use these animals instead.
Yeah, and now we have shrimp on the barbie and Foster's. So how could this be bad???
Detroit, helluva town. At least Jack White is from there, so they got that going for them...
It’s been a number of years since I’ve visited Detroit. Is it still true that the only thing that grows there is the Crime Rate?
I got murdered twice when I was there last time.
Because we have to have the big show. Instead of just putting them under and doing it, we have to have all of this ceremony with spectators that goes with it. I think the fact that they have to be awake when we do it is what is causing the problem.