PTH, I am terribly sorry for what your mama and yourself went thru. This country treats the elderly horribly. I hope someday you will be able to move past your pain. You were a wonderful son to your Mama, she KNEW that!!!
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My heart goes out to you and what your Mom had to endure. It's not ethical and just plain wrong. I have no doubt in my mind
that your Mom knew how much you loved her.
that your Mom knew how much you loved her.
I've dealt with some pretty arrogant healthcare professionals, and I've dealt with some folks who've walked through glass to take care of a patient. There are docs and nurses here in town that I'd crawl to cheerfully on my hands and knees with my guts hanging out if it looked like the ambulance was going to take me someplace else. 
It must have been horrible to hear the things that were said about him, it makes me feel sick to read them. That poor man!
It must have been horrible to hear the things that were said about him, it makes me feel sick to read them. That poor man!
That woman was just horrible! So unprofessional. I don't see how she can keep a job if she behaves that way. I feel really awful for the man who had to hear her talk that way about him during a procedure that had to be awful enough all on it's own.
I saw that they transferred her to Florida instead of firing her. That is not right.
In my job, I deal with physicians all the time. There are some (not all) who think that they got title of God after their name when they became a physician.
You were there for your Mom, Sir Pat, that's all that matters. There are asshats in every industry. Sounds like you were dealing with so-called professionals who graduated at the bottom of their class.
I remember we were called into the oncologist. Philip's white blood count was super elevated. Well, he went through radiation and now the chemo is kicking his butt what do they expect? Not necessarily the chemo. Okay what do you want to do? They want to do a bone marrow tap. Wait, bone marrow tap exposes him to infection, his immune system is already compromised and it hurts like a muther muther. What would the tap show? If he developed secondary cancer-leukemia. WHAT? I looked at the doc and said, say that he does have leukemia what are you going to do about it, what can you do? Not much but we would know. What. To place a bet what's going to kill him first? Leukemia or the GBM? That was the goofiest thing I had heard.
Yep, that's our health care system at work.
I cannot even begin to imagine what that must have been like, you have more strength than me
.Mama had some benign, or some other word they used, skin cancers they kept wanting to dig and/or freeze out, but it became pretty obvious it was just about billing, stopped it when all they were really doing was hurting her with freezer burns, looked like cigarettes were put out on her.
Scare tactics, I mean once you hear "cancer, if your not at all familiar, your first inclination is to take immediate action.
Spidey, she was my blessing through that mess of crazyness, they really had me goin'...don't think I told ya, but thanks ever so much darlin', I was a bit of a mental case on that one, too.
I bet it becomes standard "protocol" that no recording devices are allowed during any procedures.
An anesthesiologist in Toronto got 10 years in jail for molesting women when they were sedated. Some were aware.
I thought maybe I shouldn't post a link because it does give some detail. Let's just say...it wasn't just what he did to them...but what he made them do to him. During surgery...with nurses and doctors in the room.
I thought maybe I shouldn't post a link because it does give some detail. Let's just say...it wasn't just what he did to them...but what he made them do to him. During surgery...with nurses and doctors in the room.
Neesy
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I am sorry Pat - I watched my Dad (who I loved dearly) gradually worsen when he was suffering from dementia and (probably) Alzheimer's. We did not ask for an autopsy to examine his brain but he had all the signs and symptoms. They just wanted to get rid of him when I took him in to the hospital for things like a bladder problem.
He had 1600 ml. of urine drained from his bladder as it had been building up but he could not explain what the problem was. (That's around 6 cups of fluid or about 48 ounces).
I do not see a lot of respect for the elderly - and I am sorry you still feel traumatized by it all. I think I know how you feel (((Pat)))
Wow now ain't that just a whole nother kettle of bad fish, shows how human beings can be just be impersonalized slabs of raw meat in a profession that should require at least some level of empathy.
Now here's a protocol that I didn't much like, but I grew to understand.
Mama was put in a cardiac care unit for a heart related event about six or so years ago
She got there and had great nurses, next day, different nurses, not bad, but not great, next day same/same, I ran into one of the great nurses (Mama's best ever actually) somewhere on one of my hospital walkabouts, and asked her if and when she might nurse Mama again.
She said she wouldn't, that in that particular cardiac unit, rotation was such that nurses couldn't become emotionally attatched to any patients, as it happens with at least with some frequency evidently, and that cardiac unit, not called an ICU but about the same thing, had a fairly high mortality rate...of course assuring me Mama was in good nursing hand, and she really was.
See that fast track rotation, it reduced cardiac nursing burnout, makes a lot of sense, right?
I mean big picture, though I would have loved having that nurse be Mama's primary nurse, that one unit had a system that kept moral, and thus in my opinion, empathy for the patients and their loved ones, at a much higher level, which, again in my opinion, translates to better more consistant care...whoever the head nurse was that thought that up, I could easily believe he got demoted to morgue cleanup duty.
That was one of a very few protocols that I experienced that I thought did consistant good, and it was instilled by nursing, not doctoring staff.
But that profession is the one that gets all, 'we practice the art of', bullcrap, and though an 'artist' should never get too overly emotionaly attatched to his or her individual pieces, they should at the very least love and care for their individual canvases, lumps of clay, whatever, ya know what I'm sayin', because those are potentially their masterpieces, at least a wonderful piece of work, you know, for someone supposidly practicing an "art".
And with true art, you get true feelings, and that, in my opinion, is where empathy comes from.
Most docs, artists my ass, just not much more than meat mechanics at a high dollar equivalant of your local Jiffy Lube....years of college blah blah blah, sorry, doesn't much impress this cat, hell I can school ya, tution, free, and lunch, it's on me.
What gets to me , about most physicians, is their lack of attention to what a patient or caregiver relates to them about the patients medical condition. I worked as a Medical Technologist for many years before teaching. I've seen the good, bad and ugly side of the medical profession. And there is meaning to the wording that it is a medical practice.
My mom had numerous medical conditions and while in NJ, she had several caring doctors. When she moved to FL to be with me after my dad passed, I requested every medical chart, test results,medications. physical therapy etc. of her care from each physician .. and they gladly gave them to me. I developed a file folder.
As she needed care in Fl- I would make available to that physician her "case file". I might as well have thrown it in the trash can- as none ever read it or listened to what I had to say. With each new hospital admission, the same expensive and often invasive tests were requested. Do physician not have the ability to look at/ read a patients medical history? They look at the care giver strangely when you refuse. How dare you not do everything possible.
Well, it's like this, you ran those same tests a month ago. Yes, she has cancer, yes it is spreading, no she doesn't want surgery. Never once did they listen to my mom. She was elderly and what does an elderly person know about their own health.
The nurses, for the most part were caring. They kept me informed as to changes made by the "practicing" physician, when he did not consult me or my mom.
Fl is a state of elderly people. Physicians need to be re educated in compassion, and not treating elderly as some sort of incompetent object. Listen and learn from the patient and especial the caregiver- the one who took care of them 24/7.
it is not all about "protocol". It's about quality of life. Enough said..................
My mom had numerous medical conditions and while in NJ, she had several caring doctors. When she moved to FL to be with me after my dad passed, I requested every medical chart, test results,medications. physical therapy etc. of her care from each physician .. and they gladly gave them to me. I developed a file folder.
As she needed care in Fl- I would make available to that physician her "case file". I might as well have thrown it in the trash can- as none ever read it or listened to what I had to say. With each new hospital admission, the same expensive and often invasive tests were requested. Do physician not have the ability to look at/ read a patients medical history? They look at the care giver strangely when you refuse. How dare you not do everything possible.
Well, it's like this, you ran those same tests a month ago. Yes, she has cancer, yes it is spreading, no she doesn't want surgery. Never once did they listen to my mom. She was elderly and what does an elderly person know about their own health.
The nurses, for the most part were caring. They kept me informed as to changes made by the "practicing" physician, when he did not consult me or my mom.
Fl is a state of elderly people. Physicians need to be re educated in compassion, and not treating elderly as some sort of incompetent object. Listen and learn from the patient and especial the caregiver- the one who took care of them 24/7.
it is not all about "protocol". It's about quality of life. Enough said..................
Oh gee whiz it's like this ain't it..
..well it ain't a wall but it'll do.I musta sounded like a stuck broken record to you all those times you chilled my jets, couldn't count on a bet how many times I had to repeat Mama's entire medical and personal history, literally to almost every single individual medical personnel I encountered for over ten years, hell, thirty actually, I can still repeat it word for word in my sleep.
Remember the doc who came in Mama's room sayin' he read her chart, the one I looked in the eye and asked him, 'You Can Read?!?!', '...thought you guys traded in that once you got your md's.', then he looked at me, said he actually could read all incredulous like, then started asking all the same ol' tired tried and true questions?...ahh, good times
Yeah and caregivers, even 24/7\365, ain' t nothin' more than drunk tutu wearin' monkeys on a rock, well until there's a signiture required, especially on a paper releasing a facility of certain legal responsibilities, ya get pretty damn popular right then and there, pert near prom queen popular.
..."Hey look!...Doc showed up early for Rounds today!!"....
