Dr Sleep and AA

Discussion in 'Doctor Sleep' started by Christiane17, Jan 7, 2014.

  1. Jim M

    Jim M Member

    Thank you,
     
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  2. Tiny

    Tiny RECEIVED:Annoying Questions award

    At AA we have different kinds of meetings. Most are called Open Discussion meeting. This is the standard meeting
    where anyone can talk about anything they like(with in reason). Another is called a Step Meeting. This is where we read
    a chapter from one of our books called the step book. Then we talk mostly about the readings. We also have a
    Big book meeting where we read from a second book-- that we have no name for, except "The Big Book".

    Another kind of meeting is called a Speaker Meeting. This is when one person gets up sand tells their own story
    in some detail. They speak for maybe 20 minutes to the whole group then let others talk and relate to them, and what-not.
    basically they tell " What we were like, what happened, and what were like now"
    They give their experience, strength and hope.

    In recent years some people have taken to writing down the 20 minute versions of their story, and sharing it on-line; with whoever.

    Mr. King has not really done this. He told the story of his "intervention" . Where his wife dumped a garbage bag, in front
    of him , on the living room floor. This is actually 'more' then what most celebs talk about in public. !~
    I am sure Mr. King has been to more then a view of these speaker meetings, but most likely never been a speaker.
    This is not a surprise, This might be his choice; or it might be frowned upon for celebs to do such a thing (IDK)

    I would love for him to write down his 20 minute version of his story, and do it with AA lingo. This would be a treat.
    cant blame him though, if he chooses not to.

    AA has men's meeting, woman's, gay's, Spanish speaking. Young people meetings, meetings for people that are on step-6 or higher,
    ...you name , we got it. ...and if we dont ...then we'll make it up on the spot !
     
  3. Moderator

    Moderator Ms. Mod Administrator

    Entirely an assumption on my part but my guess is he's "just Steve" at meetings. :)
     
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  4. AnnaMarie

    AnnaMarie Well-Known Member

    That'll work where he regularly goes. But it must be difficult for any famous person when not at home, feeling the need of support, to walk in to a room where everyone is supposed to be anonymous....and without a mask, he can't be.
     
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  5. Wasp27

    Wasp27 Well-Known Member

    I completely agree- I couldn't get "canny" and "mama" out of my hear after I read it. Haunting.
     
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  6. EMTP513

    EMTP513 Well-Known Member


    From where *I* come, that statement is a lie. "There's very little God talk." That's all there IS is God talk but no explanations for why this wonderful, loving God who keeps people sober sat by on September 11 and watched my daughter's dad plus thousands of others die b/c presumably (and I've been told this) it was his divine will to watch while WE watched a member of our family die by being burned to death so utterly that to this day we've never received the "physical confirmation" that he's even dead at ALL.
    They also CAN'T take it or leave it. If they leave it they're never seen as "getting better."
    That's just my own experience. It's also why I stopped going for the most part.
    This book never mentioned there are people LIKE that but I'll swear as an eye witness to it that there are TOO. HE'S just been fortunate enough NOT to see them. And like anybody's going to tell him that a horrible event that happened in his family is "God's divine will?"
     
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  7. Tiny

    Tiny RECEIVED:Annoying Questions award

    Well, hello young lady.

    Im afaid I cant follow what your saying very well. But; yes there IS some God talk at
    any givin meeting, and its woveb inot the step.
    There ARE SOME people that will think/believe and "say" that a person is not
    "geetting better" unless they are "DOWN" with the God stuff.

    These people are few in my experience and I simply avoid them.
    we all know::
    there are thousands of AA/NA folks who have been clean and sober for years and
    are either Agnostic-atheists or 'believers' who want Little or nothing to do with
    {religion}. Many of us "were Plum DISGUSTED by religion and all its works"
    (including Dr. Bob)
    I feel disgusted reading about the people in your story that think 911 was
    some how "God Will". (My disgust is not as great as my befuddlement.)
    THAT is not the God of my understanding.
    I know people that will tell other they are not "really" in recovery Unless they
    have done This or finished That, or in "believe in" something they believe in.
    One guy , 22 years sober, told me I wasnt "really" clean and sober because...
    I am still smoking ... ''Winstons"
    I avoid these folks, and avoid their meeting if need be, Its not that hard.

    Look people, AA had just as many A-wh0le$ and jerks as the rest of the
    population...More really...but you CANT let them drive you away from
    the good folks.
    ***everyone:
    If you think you wanna "check out AA" ...
    the ONLY REQUIERMENT FOR MEMBERSHIP
    is a desire to stop drinking.

    nothing else need concern you.
     
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  8. Tiny

    Tiny RECEIVED:Annoying Questions award

    sorry about my spelling above. my eyes have crossed:culpability:

    Im afraid I cant follow what your saying very well. But; yes there IS some God talk at
    any given meeting, and its woven into the "steps"
     
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  9. AnnaMarie

    AnnaMarie Well-Known Member

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  10. Jim M

    Jim M Member


    Well said Tiny !

    Jim M 33 years sober.
     
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  11. Tiny

    Tiny RECEIVED:Annoying Questions award

    years and years ago in little: Claymont DE ; we had a celeb show up to
    a tiny meetting there , I think its OK for me to say it was
    Alec Balwdwin
    (I wasnt at this meeting)
     
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  12. Christiane17

    Christiane17 Salvation lets their wings unfold

    I have attended a lot of what AA calls ''Speaker Meetings'', since I am not a member myself. Those meetings are opened to everybody. Sometimes I'm amazed to see that some speakers can really be of great help for an alcoholic who comes to a meeting for the 1st time, and also to old members. You don't have to be a member to learn lessons from speeches. I have learned a lot just listening and applied those lessons in my own life. I usually attend when my hubby or a person very dear to my heart is taking an anniversary cake or token ( in french we say jeton ) sorry, if the word is not accurate in english. I cooked my hubby's cakes for each anniversary, and I feel that it's important for members each time they light up their candle to kinda celebrate this stade in their life. It's a victory each time they share the cake or token with people in place. Sometimes speakers have a lot of humor, and a good laugh is always welcome. :lol:
     
  13. Tiny

    Tiny RECEIVED:Annoying Questions award

    there is lots of laughing at most AA meeting.... the stories we can tell...
    ...if they down break your heart-- they will have you in stitches...
    very often , both
     
  14. Christiane17

    Christiane17 Salvation lets their wings unfold

    In the last book I read, Joyland, Sai King also mentions AA some place along the story. I think it's quite important in his life and I appreciate that he write a little something about he fraternity in his writing. It's never too much.
     
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