Fanfiction, Stephen King, and the Rules

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Mr Nobody

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I think the line between homage and fanfiction is pretty fine. Certainly when an author is asked, and when an author is dead, it changes things up. But I think many would agree that one could easily argue that when an author says they are writing an homage, you could say it's certainly a form of fanfiction. However, it would be a pretty good argument.

Hm. Homages tend to be written more in the style of using original characters and scenarios (i.e. SK's 'Jerusalem's Lot' from Night Shift, which iirc was a homage to Lovecraft or somebody like that). Fanfic merely remains 'in-universe'; only the scenario is (somewhat*) original. So while SK was/is a fan of Lovecraft's writing, making 'Jerusalem's Lot' a work of fiction by a fan and therefore fanfic is one sense, the fact that it's a piece of fiction using SK's own/original characters, locations and scenarios sends it over the line and into homage.
(* no fanfic scenario is entirely original, since while the main plot may be the author's own invention, it will be informed by - at the very least, and will most likely strongly feature elements and through-lines from - the work it's based upon; there is simply no ignoring the broader 'in-universe' elements)

With regard to your idea of basing characters on Stu and Fran, setting them in a post-apoc world...well, there's nothing stopping you from doing that. Just call them Steve and Fiona, change certain effects of the disease, their location, and never, ever mention 'Captain Trips', 'Randall Flagg', events in Boulder, etc (in other words, carrying over no elements or through-lines from The Stand - including Stu and Fran's personalities), bring in your own conflicts, threats and resolutions and you're golden. It's pretty much what happened with Fifty Shades, after all. As I'm sure everyone in the world knows by now, that started out as a Twilight fanfic. But even then it wouldn't truly be a homage unless you consciously wrote it in a style that was close to/reminiscent of Stephen's.
 

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Never understood that there fan fiction. I figure, cat has enough of that kind of imagination, they should be able to come up with their own stuff.

Oh, me and the live writing crew used to take a few cues from uncle Stevie's DT stuff, but that was more like a writing jam session, like an after hours jazz club blowing different ideas back and forth, exercising that prose muscle, if ye dig.
 

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Never understood that there fan fiction. I figure, cat has enough of that kind of imagination, they should be able to come up with their own stuff.
I'm embarrassed to say that I have accidentally read terrible fan fiction online (Law and Order)
Oh, me and the live writing crew used to take a few cues from uncle Stevie's DT stuff, but that was more like a writing jam session, like an after hours jazz club blowing different ideas back and forth, exercising that prose muscle, if ye dig.
Yes:facepalm_smiley: sorry
Another important distinction between him and Sir Arthur Conan Doyle is that Stephen is still alive and fully capable of writing his own stories. He does not want to allow fan fiction because he wants to reserve to himself the right to write more stories with the characters and locations he has created. If fan fiction was allowed, it is possible that someone else would come up with a similar idea that he already has or might come up with in the future. Even though he may never have seen the fan fiction story, he could be accused of plagiarizing the work if he wrote/published his own version.
Literature is not without influence; I think I've mentioned the connectivity between certain universal themes many authors have used as a basis for their own writing. Lord of the Rings may be a great book, and I'm sure if anyone trudging through Tolkien possessed the skill and genius to create The Eyes of the Dragon, etc., he would have all of the rights to anything he published thereafter:greedy_dollars:. King creates cherished characters and unique worlds, in reality. No one should try to replicate them unless they have his blessing and legal permission. IMO
 

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Yes:facepalm_smiley: sorry

Literature is not without influence; I think I've mentioned the connectivity between certain universal themes many authors have used as a basis for their own writing. Lord of the Rings may be a great book, and I'm sure if anyone trudging through Tolkien possessed the skill and genius to create The Eyes of the Dragon, etc., he would have all of the rights to anything he published thereafter:greedy_dollars:. King creates cherished characters and unique worlds, in reality. No one should try to replicate them unless they have his blessing and legal permission. IMO

Why did you stick your purple words inside of my quote? No big deal, I agree with em. Just dont wanna confuse folks.
 

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Is there any interview, or something that shows Stephen is against fanfiction? Most websites I've seen that list authors for or against seem to list Stephen as for it.
I can't give you a citation but I can tell you from personal exchanges with him that he does not think much of fanfiction, at least as far as anyone doing fanfiction of his work and never gives permission for it.
 

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I can't give you a citation but I can tell you from personal exchanges with him that he does not think much of fanfiction, at least as far as anyone doing fanfiction of his work and never gives permission for it.

I was just curious cause I saw a bunch on different websites, and was inspired to write one just for fun, but I don't want to get sued.
 

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I was just curious cause I saw a bunch on different websites, and was inspired to write one just for fun, but I don't want to get sued.
They either didn't ask or did it without his permission anyway but it would take someone or several someones working full-time to keep up with all the copyright violations in all their formats. There's a point where it's not worth following up on this sort of thing.
 

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They either didn't ask or did it without his permission anyway but it would take someone or several someones working full-time to keep up with all the copyright violations in all their formats. There's a point where it's not worth following up on this sort of thing.

Thanks for clarifying. I just thought it was alright given there was alot of them online. I just had an idea of an alternate universe kind of thing just for fun. I also would have never posted it here, just on one of those fanfic sites, never would have tried to make money off of it.
 

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Thanks for clarifying. I just thought it was alright given there was alot of them online. I just had an idea of an alternate universe kind of thing just for fun. I also would have never posted it here, just on one of those fanfic sites, never would have tried to make money off of it.
He doesn't have a problem with people writing them for their own entertainment, but not for distribution. :smile2:
 

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