First Pics of Elba As Roland

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Robert Gray said:
Not at all. To me that looks very much like finery. What I see is a Steampunk vest complete with metal buckles, a fancy duster which isn't intended for real use just looks. I suppose I should put a finer point on it, I expect the people of Midworld to be dressed more like the people in the Unforgiven, with homespun cloth, dirt, and outfits that look like that have seen real work. His outfit doesn't look the least bit worn to me. That little bit of roughneck they gave it doesn't do anything at all, like a girl buying jeans with strategic rips in them. Am I being picky? Yes. Costuming matters. Let me put it this way, the actor they have chosen is pretty. Roland is not. That means the only way they have to take the shine off that apple is to dress him down.

While I grant that we don't know where in this alternate reality story Roland stands, it suffices to say I don't recall anytime where he would be dressed like that. Perhaps the closest I can think of is when he was a boy near the clean sea and dressing up for a fancy party. That may look rough and Western to you, but to me it does not. The film 3:10 to Yuma (the remake of course) had some great costuming and they managed to dress down and somehow increase the menace of Christian Bale and Russel Crowe. Am I backseat directing? Sure. Am I wrong? No. Modern Westerns, even those set in a fantastical other world, have a certain set of reality. Even over the top things like Silverado (lots of fun) costume the appropriate people right. I don't like what I've seen so far.
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Well said! My first thoughts of costuming was that it was far too clean and pretty. It's like Idris is getting to play dress up time. Looks more like Mel Gibson in Maverick (a pretty gambler).

I'm just happy I read the books before this extraordinary ruination of literary greatness gets its few weeks in theaters.

Customs IS VERY IMPORTANT. But honestly this is starting to show the signs of just being an Idris Elba film, with a dark tower theme. It was a smart play to cast him because he's popular right now, and McC will always be popular, but I'm worried that Sony may have been wise when they dropped this poorly handled project back in 2011.


I pray I'm wrong. I'd be tearfully and pleasantly surprised if I am wrong. But if I had Mearlyns Grapefruit I'm sure it would show me the heart breaking disaster that is developing over in Africa where they are filming.
 
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Baz said:
Same :encouragement: I have them on DVD (+Netflix in UK). There's a film version coming soon. Patsy is my spirit animal.
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kingricefan said:
So there's two of us? ;-D I'm a bit more excitable than Patsy is.....I have all the dvd's. I also have French & Saunders and Clatterford on dvd. I just started watching Blandings 1st season. I really love Jennifer Saunders! She amazes me how she keeps coming up with all of these different characters. She is Britain's National Treasure!!!
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If it's Top Trumps we're playing I'll take your AbFab, and French and Saunders and raise you The Comic Strip boxset ;)
 
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So there's two of us? ;-D I'm a bit more excitable than Patsy is.....I have all the dvd's. I also have French & Saunders and Clatterford on dvd. I just started watching Blandings 1st season. I really love Jennifer Saunders! She amazes me how she keeps coming up with all of these different characters. She is Britain's National Treasure!!!
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=D Very cool. I haven't seen French & Saunders for a while but I used to love it whenever I saw it. I totally agree, Jennifer Saunders is probably the funniest woman alive. Shes the full comedy package with the writing, acting an everything else she does. In Ab Fab she is always falling over, she must have trained for that cos if I fell the way she does I'd break my hip lol we need more series of Ab Fab ;-D I love her husband in Bottom as well. But now I'm older I prefer Ab Fab.
 
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I found it quite amusing when a few of you got on the subject about how off the costuming was. The casting of main characters was ridiculous in the first place. And yet you thought maybe everything else that was finely detailed and laid out in the books would make it into production? I hope you can see where my amusement stems from.

This is not your fathers Dark Tower. Steve's now on record stating that this will not be like the books, and that a few (found that amusing also) fans may be 'upset'.

Wow!

You think?
 
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For those who are still upset about the changes that will be made I have a question. If Stephen published a book that took up where book 7 left off, one in which Roland has changed physically from who he was before and was on a new quest toward the Tower, would you read it? It wouldn't be the same story as you read the first time around, things would obviously be changed and new characters would undoubtedly be introduced. If you stop thinking of this as an exact adaptation (when has that ever happened?) of the books that have been published and think of it as a new level of the tower would you still be as upset?
 
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For those who are still upset about the changes that will be made I have a question. If Stephen published a book that took up where book 7 left off, one in which Roland has changed physically from who he was before and was on a new quest toward the Tower, would you read it? It wouldn't be the same story as you read the first time around, things would obviously be changed and new characters would undoubtedly be introduced. If you stop thinking of this as an exact adaptation (when has that ever happened?) of the books that have been published and think of it as a new level of the tower would you still be as upset?
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My thoughts-- the original Dark Tower/journey books are as they are written. The words are on the pages, never to be erased. They are and always will be. If, this upcoming movie is different , so be it. Once I thought of it as a "new level of the tower", it was acceptable. And believe me, it took a lot of thinking. Years invested in the DT journey made it extra special. I didn't want to see anything that would spoil/ change it. The realization is- The DT journey does not/ never will change. It is. All who read the books know the last pages. So, a new level.
Ka is a wheel. Journey on, Roland.
 
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Moderator said:
For those who are still upset about the changes that will be made I have a question. If Stephen published a book that took up where book 7 left off, one in which Roland has changed physically from who he was before and was on a new quest toward the Tower, would you read it? It wouldn't be the same story as you read the first time around, things would obviously be changed and new characters would undoubtedly be introduced. If you stop thinking of this as an exact adaptation (when has that ever happened?) of the books that have been published and think of it as a new level of the tower would you still be as upset?
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That would be fine............but I want the original story in all its glory and in every detail first!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

~~Storms off into the corner to sulk~~

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For those who are still upset about the changes that will be made I have a question. If Stephen published a book that took up where book 7 left off, one in which Roland has changed physically from who he was before and was on a new quest toward the Tower, would you read it? It wouldn't be the same story as you read the first time around, things would obviously be changed and new characters would undoubtedly be introduced. If you stop thinking of this as an exact adaptation (when has that ever happened?) of the books that have been published and think of it as a new level of the tower would you still be as upset?
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Wrong analogy. Say he decided to write a sequel of the movie Galaxy Quest, and promoted it as such, yet he decided to dramatically change the leading role’s character... Would we like what he did?
 
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DiO'Bolic said:
Wrong analogy. Say he decided to write a sequel of the movie Galaxy Quest, and promoted it as such, yet he decided to dramatically change the leading role’s character... Would we like what he did?
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Guess we'll have to agree to disagree that it's a wrong analogy.
The book clearly ends with Roland beginning a new journey. There's nothing that says that he is going to be exactly the same person as he was in the previous one and we have no knowledge of who Roland might have been in a previous journey as it's not necessarily his first time going to the Tower.
It's certainly anyone's prerogative not to like how he's written a sequel (using that term per the scenario you've mentioned). Wouldn't be the first time, nor will it be the last. ;)
 
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