For The Ones Who Like Westerns..

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Kurben

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It really was :) I'm not much of a western fan, to be honest, but I like a few here and there, and that is definitely one of the good ones.
It certainly is and so so much better than the slow, rather boring movie that tells the same story from a different point of view. The Murder of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford. A few years back. Think it was Pitt in the main part.
 

pegasus216

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Well, I put on Unforgiven only to find that it is Burt Lancaster, Not Eastwood!
I sent a message to the seller telling them that. but I won't return it. To much of a pain.
So I have it saved to order later.
I always liked Lancaster too!
 
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Kurben

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Well, I put on Unforgiven only to find that it is Burt Lancaster, Not Eastwood!
I sent a message to the seller telling them that. but I won't return it. To much of a pain.
So I have it saved to order later.
I always liked Lancaster too!
Yeah, Lancaster and Audrey Hepburn. But it is a totally different movie.
 
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ghost19

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I read somewhere that was the reason that Eastwood did Unforgiven: to show western nostalgia for the fairy tale it really is.
Unforgiven had some of the best lines ever in a western about how gun fights actually went down. One of Gene Hackman's quotes in the movie was perfect when he was talking to the writer.

Little Bill Daggett: "Look son, being a good shot, being quick with a pistol, that don't do no harm, but it don't mean much next to being cool-headed. A man who will keep his head and not get rattled under fire, like as not, he'll kill ya."

Awesome quote.
 

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My favorite exchange in Unforgiven:

[Character who kills his target in an outhouse, if I remember right]: It don't seem real, how he ain't gonna never breathe again, ever. How he's dead. And the other one too. All on account of pulling a trigger.
Eastwood: It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have.
[Character]: Yeah. Well, I guess they had it coming.
Eastwood: We all got it coming, kid.

I walked away from the movie thinking that this was Eastwood's repudiation of the "romantic" Westerns that had given him his start.
 

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I think he actually talked about that,and how he regretted some of the graphic violence of some of his earlier movies,like the spaghetti westerns,dirty harry,etc..though I loved them,you have to take them with a grain of salt as entertainment.Loved how the ending of Unforgiven was the same as the start,in essence,it really was a love story,how he loved his wife dearly..
 

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I watche Pale Rider last night. Man, what a great movie!
Question on this though. Is this a follow up to High Plains Drigter. And who was he? I have et to figure that out.
 
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I think he actually talked about that,and how he regretted some of the graphic violence of some of his earlier movies,like the spaghetti westerns,dirty harry,etc..though I loved them,you have to take them with a grain of salt as entertainment.Loved how the ending of Unforgiven was the same as the start,in essence,it really was a love story,how he loved his wife dearly..

It was, and Will's wife informs the story a lot more, I think, than people realize. We don't know who she is or how she reached Will, but we do know that Will gave up everything he knew to be with her. Not many people are willing to do that, so we already know, before we even meet him that even though Will Muny is a desperado, he has strong convictions. He's clearly not a hog farmer, and when he gets the chance to "do right" by his family -- even though his wife is gone -- he gets down to rationalizing right quick.

I think most people figure Will puts the bottle back down after he rides out of Big Whiskey. We don't get to know, but the final reference to his wife and how people "couldn't understand" suggests, at the very least, that good and bad and right and wrong and love and death are all mixed up together and you can't really take any of it out and look at it separately, or you lose the ability to see any of it.

Didn't this thing win Best Picture?
 

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I took it as he drank the whiskey to get back into the mean part of his character,and left off with it after getting back to his kids..great story,Clint did very well..
 
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Real good movie all on it's own, but Chief Dan George made it great, so many wonderful lines done with absolute perfection.

For my money Lone Waddie stole large portions of that movie . . . no mean feat when you're stealing from Clint Eastwood.

"I have this piece of rock candy, but it's not for eatin'. It's just for lookin' through."
 

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The DVD I have has a lot of extra stuff at the end. The making of the movie, and Clint being actor, and director. They also talked with a lot of the actors. I found it very interesting.
 
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