High iq high functioning autistics, Rita Hayworth, and the Shawshank Redemption

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James Howes

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Rumor has it Mr. King is a high iq, high functioning autistic. I've confirmed that I am, but with increased inter-connectivity between hemispheres. This is a recipe for unusual linguistic, musical, or artistic facility.

I'm thinking Mr. King has to be the same, and he's written autistics into his stories.

"Andy Dufresne - who crawled through a river of **** and came out clean on the other side."

The thing is, I've been looking into it. I'm a first rate Pavarotti type operatic tenor. (He was better.) That scene where Andy tells people how they can't take the music from us? Most people can't play music in their heads!

And those who can don't know it's special. I can play whole piano concerti in my head front to back. It never occurred to me it was unusual til about the 40th watching of Shawshank.

I'm guessing Mr. King can? Would someone ask him?

The thing is: facial development is linked to brain development. Stephen King looks like my uncle, or something.

Hamlet is autistic. Faust is autistic. Michael Corleone is autistic. Andy Dufresne is autistic.
 
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Rumor has it Mr. King is a high iq, high functioning autistic. I've confirmed that I am, but with increased inter-connectivity between hemispheres. This is a recipe for unusual linguistic, musical, or artistic facility.

I'm thinking Mr. King has to be the same, and he's written autistics into his stories.

"Andy Dufresne - who crawled through a river of **** and came out clean on the other side."

The thing is, I've been looking into it. I'm a first rate Pavarotti type operatic tenor. (He was better.) That scene where Andy tells people how they can't take the music from us? Most people can't play music in their heads!

And those who can don't know it's special. I can play whole piano concerti in my head front to back. It never occurred to me it was unusual til about the 40th watching of Shawshank.

I'm guessing Mr. King can? Would someone ask him?

The thing is: facial development is linked to brain development. Stephen King looks like my uncle, or something.

Hamlet is autistic. Faust is autistic. Michael Corleone is autistic. Andy Dufresne is autistic.
Welcome. I don't think Mr. King or Andy Dufresne is autistic. JMHO.
 

James Howes

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Welcome to the SKMB! Keep posting? I've been fascinated by people with Aspergers Syndrome. Supposedly Einstein, Michelangelo and Thomas Jefferson all had Aspergers.

Apparently so with you examples. People with aspergers lack facility with nonverbal communication, and like a blind person with other senses, our brains devote additional resources to verbal communication.

So, unlike with "classical" autism, where linguistic ability runs from non-existent to subaverage, high functioning autistics have linguistic abilities which range from average to superior.

I'm thinking this might explain Mr. Kings extraordinary facility.

I assume I'm not speaking out of turn in talking about this. Aspies need to have pride in ourselves.
 

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Apparently so with you examples. People with aspergers lack facility with nonverbal communication, and like a blind person with other senses, our brains devote additional resources to verbal communication.

So, unlike with "classical" autism, where linguistic ability runs from non-existent to subaverage, high functioning autistics have linguistic abilities which range from average to superior.

I'm thinking this might explain Mr. Kings extraordinary facility.

I assume I'm not speaking out of turn in talking about this. Aspies need to have pride in ourselves.
Welcome. :)

I understand what you're saying, :) but Stephen does not have Asperger's.
 

James Howes

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Welcome. :)

I understand what you're saying, :) but Stephen does not have Asperger's.
Aha. Is heard a rumor.

He might, actually, but I'd have to meet him and spend a ridiculous amount of effort making sure. Or maybe an fmri. There is a rare variant. Increased interconnectivity between hemispheres from a selective androgen insensitivity.

Is he ever spiteful? Like, normal person spiteful? Not that we'd be criticizing him.

Is he analytical to a noteworthy degree? Does he enjoy analytically grounded arguments?
 

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Welcome. :)

I understand what you're saying, :) but Stephen does not have Asperger's.
It's possible if not likely that neither Einstein, Michaelangelo, nor Thomas Jefferson had Asperger Syndrome (*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome); I heard some spokespeople for an Asperger group make the claim. I also think it unlikely that Stephen King has the syndrome mainly due to the following and how it does not describe him...

*Asperger syndrome (AS), also known as Asperger's syndrome, Asperger disorder (AD) or simply Asperger's, is an autism spectrum disorder (ASD) that is characterized by significant difficulties in social interaction and nonverbal communication...

Stephen King is not lacking in terms of social interaction and nonverbal communication. I doubt he could meet his overall daily responsibilities, not to mention enjoy them, otherwise. In other words, as much as we love to presume that he must not be, Stephen King is kind of normal.
 
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It's possible if not likely that neither Einstein, Michaelangelo, nor Thomas Jefferson had Asperger Syndrome (*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome); I heard some spokespeople for an Asperger group make the claim. I also think it unlikely that Stephen King has the syndrome mainly due to the following and how it does not describe him...

*Asperger syndrome (AS), also known as Asperger's syndrome, Asperger disorder (AD) or simply Asperger's, is an autism spectrum disorder (ASD) that is characterized by significant difficulties in social interaction and nonverbal communication...

Stephen King is not lacking in terms of social interaction and nonverbal communication. I doubt he could meet his overall daily responsibilities, not to mention enjoy them, otherwise. In other words, as much as we love to presume that he must not be, Stephen King is kind of normal.
Are you sure it was my post that you wanted to quote? :biggrin2: (I said that he does not have Asperger's Syndrome.)
 
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Anyway,
(Autistic people are usually lacking in spitefulness. It's pretty consistent, although I imagine trauma could alter that.)

Anyway, this variant of autism is rampant among classical musicians and their children. I wonder about writers. Especially those exhibiting savant like ability.

Which made me think of Mr. King. He's a wizard or something.
It's possible if not likely that neither Einstein, Michaelangelo, nor Thomas Jefferson had Asperger Syndrome (*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome); I heard some spokespeople for an Asperger group make the claim. I also think it unlikely that Stephen King has the syndrome mainly due to the following and how it does not describe him...

*Asperger syndrome (AS), also known as Asperger's syndrome, Asperger disorder (AD) or simply Asperger's, is an autism spectrum disorder (ASD) that is characterized by significant difficulties in social interaction and nonverbal communication...

Stephen King is not lacking in terms of social interaction and nonverbal communication. I doubt he could meet his overall daily responsibilities, not to mention enjoy them, otherwise. In other words, as much as we love to presume that he must not be, Stephen King is kind of normal.
You see, I'm autistic. There are all sorts. We exist outside of best descriptions of us.

You're right though. I can't diagnose him. He's probably not.

But I don't think gene Roddenberry was autistic, but he made Data. So I'm wondering if he's like so many of my notautistic relatives, at least, and might understand us unusually well. Being half in the bag themselves.

I have to wonder some of his characters. And I'll stand by the possibility of my specific suggestion. Androgen insensitivity.
 
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I'm new to posting on the internet. I didn't realize it was quoting.

Anyway, he could be autistic like me. Some of us pass.

But anyway, characters can be interpretable of a given psychology without the author being that psychology himself. Luna lovegood in Rowling's work. Or Snape could be interpreted as such.
 
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If you mean would I would be happy to find one of me in the world, yes. So far it's me, jugendlicher dramatische tenors, my psychiatrist, my theologian brother, and a list of dead authors and composers.

The disease model of psychology is terribly flawed. Think of us as... Ents. Don't be hasty.
 
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