I Am Angry Today Because . . .

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skimom2

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Tax reporting is calculated based on the gross amount of your royalty payment, which includes the amount of the royalty payment received in U.S. dollars as well as any applicable fees, such as fees related to receiving payment in a currency other than the currency of the marketplace on which the sales occurred. But the publisher never seems to indicate what those fees amount to. Hopefully you have copies of the payments and possibly deposit slips to indicate the difference in payments, with the difference therefore amounting to the fees. You can claim those fees as deductible expenses on your income tax. But don’t just take my word for it, talk to a tax professional with knowledge of royalties.

That's exactly the issue, DiO. I had no issues with my publisher, a small one, before they started making deals with the Amazon devil. Now everything is shrouded in layers of mystery--lol.

Regardless, my freaked out email seems to have done the trick and I got a revised document :) Still doesn't exactly jibe with my records, but the difference isn't enough to affect my taxes.
 

HollyGolightly

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Just roaring this morning. I got my 1099 for royalties for the year, and it's outrageous--many, many times higher than I've actually received. I think it probably reflects what I SHOULD have received, but that doesn't help me. I'm so angry I can't even think (but I wasn't thinking well anyway because of this stupid flu). If this comes down to some Amazon shenanigans, I'm going to freak out entirely.

So there you have it, two states I rarely, rarely reach: sick and furious.

I'm sorry to hear you're ailing! You go the flu-flu or the stomach flu? I had a 24 hour thingy 3am Monday - the wee hours last night. Horrid. I'm looking hungry though - nice!

I agree with Dio on the tax thing. Those fees are deductible. It'll be ok.

Amazon is in cahoots with the devil though.
 

skimom2

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LOL. Many, many years ago I thought I’d make a little extra money by doing taxes. I actually went through the H&R Block tax training classes and was certified by them. My first client was a young independent artist who kept absolutely no records, made no estimated tax payments, and showed up with about 4 shoe boxes filled with receipts and hand written notes. It took me forever to do his taxes. He was shocked at his taxes, which included penalties for not paying taxes on a quarterly basis, and my bill for doing them. He refused to pay me for my work. I said ‘screw this,’ and it was the first and last time I did anyone’s taxes other than family.
I worked for the IRS for many years, so I know how much I do NOT want to mess about with erroneous documents. It can take forever to get a tax snarl worked out once it's allowed to snarl.
 

skimom2

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I'm sorry to hear you're ailing! You go the flu-flu or the stomach flu? I had a 24 hour thingy 3am Monday - the wee hours last night. Horrid. I'm looking hungry though - nice!

I agree with Dio on the tax thing. Those fees are deductible. It'll be ok.

Amazon is in cahoots with the devil though.
Stupid flu-flu. Mark and Nick had it two weeks ago and last week, but I thought it had passed me by. I rarely get sick (like, once every few years), so this irks me to no end.
 

Neesy

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I imagine they have good insurance. They are an old family business with lots of customers. I liked shopping for Italian groceries in their little shop ....the coffee bar is nice too. Same regulars sorta hang out there.

From an updated article:

"This is sad. I really hope they rebuild," she said. "It's a fixture of our neighbourhood ... If there's anything the neighbourhood can do, let us know ... because we'll do everything possible to bring this back."

About 25 people work at the bakery, said Frank Devenz, a co-owner who runs the downtown location.
“A lot of people are going to be out of work here now, but we’re going to rebuild. We’re definitely going to rebuild."

Hope they manage to get the funds they need to rebuild!

They can rise from the ashes (like a Phoenix).
 

CoriSCapnSkip

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I worked for the IRS for many years, so I know how much I do NOT want to mess about with erroneous documents. It can take forever to get a tax snarl worked out once it's allowed to snarl.

Speaking of being angry...let me tell you sometime about how the IRS spent five years torturing my dad in an investigation which should have taken 30 days, spending a quarter of a million dollars in prosecution fees, resulting in failure to prove he ever owed anything. This affected my life not only during those five years but to this day affects much of what I do and how I do it.
 

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For the second time, a male orange tabby of mine nearly succeeded in killing my mom.

Mom sleeps in a massive bed with only a few inches between it and the wall and very little space under the bed, so little we've been unable to use standard size under bed storage bins in her room. She keeps a little flashlight next to the bed to see what time it is during the night. Years ago Captain ate the string holding this light and it rolled away. When Mom went to retrieve it, she ended up on her back with one leg stuck under the bed. At that time I slept in the room below with no white noise machine, so heard her calling and was able to go extricate her.

I now not only have a white noise machine, but have moved to another room so as not to have to brave the stairs while my leg is healing, and have no hope of hearing any noise from Mom's room. When I got up today, Mom told me she had been trapped beside/beneath the bed again, had to get out herself (Lord knows how) and once she did was unable to get up right away. I asked why she didn't press her Life Alert pendant and she said all the doors were locked and no one could get in without damaging something! (I spent some time on the phone arranging how to deal with this.)

The flashlight turned up at last, not near the bed but under a rug some distance away--Buster's work, to be sure. After Captain ate the string, we replaced it with a chain, but at some point Mom must have changed lights and not attached the new one to the chain so I spent some time working out a way attaching it to the chain so that it can still be detached by a person but not a cat.

Mom's right leg bothered her so much she had to use the walker I got--brand new and barely used as I have mostly been using the scooter--in fact, I just moved the walker out of my room yesterday, well, it's in her room tonight! Mom had also been doing all the feeding and cleaning up after the cats, as until recently I had trouble getting up once I was down, but I was planning to take it back over today so did with no trouble. Since I also had to feed and clean up after Mom as well as go to the store by myself, I did not get the rest I wanted after my exertions of yesterday.
 

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Speaking of being angry...let me tell you sometime about how the IRS spent five years torturing my dad in an investigation which should have taken 30 days, spending a quarter of a million dollars in prosecution fees, resulting in failure to prove he ever owed anything. This affected my life not only during those five years but to this day affects much of what I do and how I do it.

That really sucks.
 

CoriSCapnSkip

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That really sucks.

At the time it really did. They were trying to send him to prison, not the county jail but heavy duty hard time on the rock. We kids were just old enough to understand, and suffered anxiety and nightmares. We were barely keeping the house, old as it was and with shabby secondhand furnishings which had survived many moves or been cast off by the previous owners. The car was two years older than I was, and I was entering adolescence. Dad really did not make that much, even working three jobs, and certainly owed no taxes. Mom and the kids would not only have suffered by his absence or should I say his loss (not until years after he passed did I come across documents indicating he intended to kill himself if convicted) but we would have been thrown onto the mercy of Mom's relatives. We'd visited those households, and in every one was at least one person fully capable of making our lives a living hell. We had no desire to visit, other than to see some of our cousins, let alone stay. It was an absolute nightmare, and all completely unwarranted! I've never had the patience to try to find out if the agents suffered humiliation for making such asses of themselves as to waste hundreds of thousands of dollars' worth of government resources on prosecuting an innocent person, but disciplinary action would certainly seem to be in order!
 
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At the time it really did. They were trying to send him to prison, not the county jail but heavy duty hard time on the rock. We kids were just old enough to understand, and suffered anxiety and nightmares. We were barely keeping the house, old as it was and with shabby secondhand furnishings which had survived many moves or been cast off by the previous owners. The car was two years older than I was, and I was entering adolescence. Dad really did not make that much, even working three jobs, and certainly owed no taxes. Mom and the kids would not only have suffered by his absence or should I say his loss (not until years after he passed did I come across documents indicating he intended to kill himself if convicted) but we would have been thrown onto the mercy of Mom's relatives. We'd visited those households, and in every one was at least one person fully capable of making our lives a living hell. We had no desire to visit, other than to see some of our cousins, let alone stay. It was an absolute nightmare, and all completely unwarranted! I've never had the patience to try to find out if the agents suffered humiliation for making such asses of themselves as to waste hundreds of thousands of dollars' worth of government resources on prosecuting an innocent person, but disciplinary action would certainly seem to be in order!
Was it just a mistake, clerical error or something? Or was it persecution, and if so for what?
 
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CoriSCapnSkip

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Was it just a mistake, clerical error or something? Or was it persecution, and if so for what?

In short, an enemy of Dad's turned him into the IRS for personal reasons. I found this unbelievable--do they take the word of every disgruntled neighbor, vengeful ex, former employer or employee, or enemy of any kind, seriously? They would spend their entire time on the exes alone! For some reason they listened to this freak. It had, as far as we can piece together, something to do with a small church group which met infrequently either at our home or other members' homes--the enemy accused Dad of fabricating a fake church as a tax dodge, or something of the kind. Dad did admit to some exceedingly bad bookkeeping, but no intentional fraud. The thing no one understands is why these agents, who visited the house, which seems to have happened twice at the most, didn't just take a look at the crummy car (which lacked even a decent paint job until later) and aging shabby house, and say, forget it, nothing here worth stealing. They were insanely, almost unbelievably, aggressive. In fact, they not only questioned everyone who knew Dad but went after all his relatives and took one of his brothers to the cleaner's, although Dad lived halfway across the country from all of his family other than us. I would say it was persecution, but have heard of much worse. Dad collected such stories for years, many of which appeared on news broadcasts. Dad was floored because he understood the IRS had 30 days to prove or disprove their case and they dragged him through five years of hell and the rest of us with him.
 
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In short, an enemy of Dad's turned him into the IRS for personal reasons. I found this unbelievable--do they take the word of every disgruntled neighbor, vengeful ex, former employer or employee, or enemy of any kind, seriously? They would spend their entire time on the exes alone! For some reason they listened to this freak. It had, as far as we can piece together, something to do with a small church group which met infrequently either at our home or other members' homes--the enemy accused Dad of fabricating a fake church as a tax dodge, or something of the kind. Dad did admit to some exceedingly bad bookkeeping, but no intentional fraud. The thing no one understands is why these agents, who visited the house, which seems to have happened twice at the most, didn't just take a look at the crummy car (which lacked even a decent paint job until later) and aging shabby house, and say, forget it, nothing here worth stealing. They were insanely, almost unbelievably, aggressive. In fact, they not only questioned everyone who knew Dad but went after all his relatives and took one of his brothers to the cleaner's, although Dad lived halfway across the country from all of his family other than us. I would say it was persecution, but have heard of much worse. Dad collected such stories for years, many of which appeared on news broadcasts. Dad was floored because he understood the IRS had 30 days to prove or disprove their case and they dragged him through five years of hell and the rest of us with him.
That's very scary to me.
 
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