I Am Angry Today Because . . .

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AnnaMarie

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We had a car that was starting to need to much in repair, and a mini-van that was to old to be reliable for a lot if highway driving. It's never really been used a lot and is basically our weekend vehicle.

DH wanted a Malibu. I said it was to late to return to his teen years and he should buy something bigger and get rid of both vehicles...but he insisted. Bought the Malibu and everything needed to winterize it. Drove it one freaking year then said he was in to much pain getting in and out if. This is due to his size and his arthritis. So he sad he had to trade it in. I said get something big, like the van, and trade in both vehicles. He got a Buick, car, and winterized. Couldn't even reuse winter rims...same size but holes in different place. Can't remember what kind of car...don't care. It's nice but after a year he's again complaining. To painful to drive. He's been taking the van to work this week. But this vehicle cannot be made safe for winter...nor for a heat wave. So he says he wants a new vehicle. He's suggesting he get something bigger...closer in size to a mini-van. :mad:

Is smacking him upside the head considered assault?
 

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We had a car that was starting to need to much in repair, and a mini-van that was to old to be reliable for a lot if highway driving. It's never really been used a lot and is basically our weekend vehicle.

DH wanted a Malibu. I said it was to late to return to his teen years and he should buy something bigger and get rid of both vehicles...but he insisted. Bought the Malibu and everything needed to winterize it. Drove it one freaking year then said he was in to much pain getting in and out if. This is due to his size and his arthritis. So he sad he had to trade it in. I said get something big, like the van, and trade in both vehicles. He got a Buick, car, and winterized. Couldn't even reuse winter rims...same size but holes in different place. Can't remember what kind of car...don't care. It's nice but after a year he's again complaining. To painful to drive. He's been taking the van to work this week. But this vehicle cannot be made safe for winter...nor for a heat wave. So he says he wants a new vehicle. He's suggesting he get something bigger...closer in size to a mini-van. :mad:

Is smacking him upside the head considered assault?
Yeah, but you have a good defense.:oops:
 

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Basically I spend half my time upset about my life turning out to be such a pointless crappy waste and the other half wondering whether it was all my fault, partly my fault, or not my fault, and if it would make a difference if I knew for sure how much was my fault--that is, inferring I could have done something differently--since my existence has absolutely no significance whatsoever. Would I feel better if I were reassured that with what I was born to work with I couldn't expect any better, or would it just make me mad that I was really all that hopeless all along, especially since I spent so long not believing it? What really burns me is my life doesn't matter, after my mother is gone there is no point to my continuing this charade I once considered an important journey to a significant goal. What's more, even if I could afford to enjoy anything that would be cheating as I haven't "earned" the right to be happy, so I'm not. I do things during the day but actually I prefer sleeping as it's the only time I get away from all this. If this is what it's all about I prefer not to be part or party to any of it. I keep feeling I'm missing something which is the other reason I'm mad. There probably is something I could do to make things go right and I am just failing to see whatever that may be. (My doctors keep changing my medications.) I promise this is not on purpose. Anyone who was merely lazy and making excuses would not go to all the trouble of feeling this bad 24/7/365! There's definitely something going on here.
 

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Basically I spend half my time upset about my life turning out to be such a pointless crappy waste and the other half wondering whether it was all my fault, partly my fault, or not my fault, and if it would make a difference if I knew for sure how much was my fault--that is, inferring I could have done something differently--since my existence has absolutely no significance whatsoever. Would I feel better if I were reassured that with what I was born to work with I couldn't expect any better, or would it just make me mad that I was really all that hopeless all along, especially since I spent so long not believing it? What really burns me is my life doesn't matter, after my mother is gone there is no point to my continuing this charade I once considered an important journey to a significant goal. What's more, even if I could afford to enjoy anything that would be cheating as I haven't "earned" the right to be happy, so I'm not. I do things during the day but actually I prefer sleeping as it's the only time I get away from all this. If this is what it's all about I prefer not to be part or party to any of it. I keep feeling I'm missing something which is the other reason I'm mad. There probably is something I could do to make things go right and I am just failing to see whatever that may be. (My doctors keep changing my medications.) I promise this is not on purpose. Anyone who was merely lazy and making excuses would not go to all the trouble of feeling this bad 24/7/365! There's definitely something going on here.
Please keep talking to your doctors! There must be a combination of meds that really can help you feel better. Sending good vibes to you....((((CoriSCapnSkip)))
I don't believe that anyone's existence is completely pointless. We all belong in one way or another. Some say happiness is something that you can help choose. Maybe that's true. I hope you can find a way to do that. I don't think you have to earn happiness...it is just a feeling after all. The same way that hopelessness is a feeling. Good luck to you finding a way to feel happy and feel your true worth. :)
 

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Basically I spend half my time upset about my life turning out to be such a pointless crappy waste and the other half wondering whether it was all my fault, partly my fault, or not my fault, and if it would make a difference if I knew for sure how much was my fault--that is, inferring I could have done something differently--since my existence has absolutely no significance whatsoever. Would I feel better if I were reassured that with what I was born to work with I couldn't expect any better, or would it just make me mad that I was really all that hopeless all along, especially since I spent so long not believing it? What really burns me is my life doesn't matter, after my mother is gone there is no point to my continuing this charade I once considered an important journey to a significant goal. What's more, even if I could afford to enjoy anything that would be cheating as I haven't "earned" the right to be happy, so I'm not. I do things during the day but actually I prefer sleeping as it's the only time I get away from all this. If this is what it's all about I prefer not to be part or party to any of it. I keep feeling I'm missing something which is the other reason I'm mad. There probably is something I could do to make things go right and I am just failing to see whatever that may be. (My doctors keep changing my medications.) I promise this is not on purpose. Anyone who was merely lazy and making excuses would not go to all the trouble of feeling this bad 24/7/365! There's definitely something going on here.
As someone with Autism spectrum disorder/Asbergers I can sympathize but life is about trying to maintain a positive outlook. When I was a young boy from the age of about one to five years of age I used to hit my head against the wall which is a syndrome but I wasn't diagnosed till three years ago. Sleep is very important and so is eating well. Stay clear of too much junk food. Also, having a pet is very helpful as it will give you something to look after and give you responsibility instead of thinking too much about yourself. I only masticate three times a day now. Exercise is important and one thing you should no is that reading is very good because it takes your mind somewhere else instead of thinking about yourself all the time.
 

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Please keep talking to your doctors! There must be a combination of meds that really can help you feel better. Sending good vibes to you....((((CoriSCapnSkip)))
I don't believe that anyone's existence is completely pointless. We all belong in one way or another. Some say happiness is something that you can help choose. Maybe that's true. I hope you can find a way to do that. I don't think you have to earn happiness...it is just a feeling after all. The same way that hopelessness is a feeling. Good luck to you finding a way to feel happy and feel your true worth. :)

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As someone with Autism spectrum disorder/Asbergers I can sympathize but life is about trying to maintain a positive outlook. When I was a young boy from the age of about one to five years of age I used to hit my head against the wall which is a syndrome but I wasn't diagnosed till three years ago. Sleep is very important and so is eating well. Stay clear of too much junk food. Also, having a pet is very helpful as it will give you something to look after and give you responsibility instead of thinking too much about yourself. I only masticate three times a day now. Exercise is important and one thing you should no is that reading is very good because it takes your mind somewhere else instead of thinking about yourself all the time.

I was diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome ten years ago at the age of 45. At first I was devastated at the confirmation there really was something wrong with me! Previously I had just thought others were mean and unfair, provoking me, and then calling me mentally ill because I got angry when people provoked me. Funny, no one considered them crazy for being upset when people were jerks to them! I spent some time being horrified, but then bounced back, thinking, well, creative geniuses often have some differences and at least it isn't mental illness! As far as reading, it was my mainstay for many years, I'd say the main thing which got me through school, but in the last three years I've come to doubt I was put on this earth to be a bestselling author after all. If I'm not, well, no point reading, so lately I haven't bothered much and when I do I find it hard to concentrate, which upsets me. I am relatively healthy, just see no means of sustaining my existence and very little point to it either.
 

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I was diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome ten years ago at the age of 45. At first I was devastated at the confirmation there really was something wrong with me! Previously I had just thought others were mean and unfair, provoking me, and then calling me mentally ill because I got angry when people provoked me. Funny, no one considered them crazy for being upset when people were jerks to them! I spent some time being horrified, but then bounced back, thinking, well, creative geniuses often have some differences and at least it isn't mental illness! As far as reading, it was my mainstay for many years, I'd say the main thing which got me through school, but in the last three years I've come to doubt I was put on this earth to be a bestselling author after all. If I'm not, well, no point reading, so lately I haven't bothered much and when I do I find it hard to concentrate, which upsets me. I am relatively healthy, just see no means of sustaining my existence and very little point to it either.
Think of all the good things there are like walking along a beach and seeing the little pippi's worming their way into the sand. Or any other natural thing. I do get depressed when I go to shopping centres/malls and look at people and think the world is turning into the 'Me' society but that's why you block it out. Don't go shopping at malls. Reading is good in itself, you don't have to read just because you want to become Arthur Haley. Comics are very good if you seem to be having trouble concentrating. Get into a routine. I assume you are on medication, as I've gotten older I have less faith in the future of humankind, as the earth is running out of finite resources. Also, sometimes going back to religion can help give you faith in the future. I also do a bit of meditation which can relax the body.
 

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I called a company to ask about their policy regarding labelling "may contain" if a food may have been in contact with an allergen. Do they label on the product and if so what allergens do they label for.

She asks for a product code and she can tell me in in less than a minute if it has been in contact with allergens.

I again explain that I want to know company policy and labelling on product packaging. She puts me on hold for about 5 minutes. Comes back and reads some cya nonsense that does not say anything about packaging or labelling. So I ask her which allergens this includes. She doesn't know.

By this point I have decided I'm going to send an e-mail. I need this in writing. But, since there is one specific product I'm interested in, I ask her if she can check whether this one specific product may be cross contaminated with peanuts, tree nuts, or sesame. She says she can check in less than one minute. She puts me on hold.

After 10 minutes she comes back on and says she does not have enough authority to get that information. She can have someone with that authority call me back. In 2-3 business days.

Through all this I have remained polite and calm. (I did not have high hopes.) But after verifying my phone number and again saying someone with more authority will call me back in 2-3 business days she then goes back on-script and says "Have I helped you with all your concerns today?"

And that's when I kind of lost it.

I told her that NO she had not helped me with anything. A simple question about labelling should not require a supervisor to intervene. And in this day and age it should never take more than a few minutes for a company to answer such simple questions.

I don't expect every food to be made safe for me. But I do expect a company to know what runs on lines with major allergens and to be able to tell me that in a few minutes. Or better yet....put it on the freaking package. It's not that difficult. Lot's of companies manage it.
 

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I called a company to ask about their policy regarding labelling "may contain" if a food may have been in contact with an allergen. Do they label on the product and if so what allergens do they label for.

She asks for a product code and she can tell me in in less than a minute if it has been in contact with allergens.

I again explain that I want to know company policy and labelling on product packaging. She puts me on hold for about 5 minutes. Comes back and reads some cya nonsense that does not say anything about packaging or labelling. So I ask her which allergens this includes. She doesn't know.

By this point I have decided I'm going to send an e-mail. I need this in writing. But, since there is one specific product I'm interested in, I ask her if she can check whether this one specific product may be cross contaminated with peanuts, tree nuts, or sesame. She says she can check in less than one minute. She puts me on hold.

After 10 minutes she comes back on and says she does not have enough authority to get that information. She can have someone with that authority call me back. In 2-3 business days.

Through all this I have remained polite and calm. (I did not have high hopes.) But after verifying my phone number and again saying someone with more authority will call me back in 2-3 business days she then goes back on-script and says "Have I helped you with all your concerns today?"

And that's when I kind of lost it.

I told her that NO she had not helped me with anything. A simple question about labelling should not require a supervisor to intervene. And in this day and age it should never take more than a few minutes for a company to answer such simple questions.

I don't expect every food to be made safe for me. But I do expect a company to know what runs on lines with major allergens and to be able to tell me that in a few minutes. Or better yet....put it on the freaking package. It's not that difficult. Lot's of companies manage it.
Do you have an agency that controls labeling and product safety- Like the American Food and Drug Administration? You could control then requesting info on the company and it's labeling process. Almost daily I see products being recalled for lack of proper labels.
 

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Do you have an agency that controls labeling and product safety- Like the American Food and Drug Administration? You could control then requesting info on the company and it's labeling process. Almost daily I see products being recalled for lack of proper labels.

We have the Canadian Food Inspection Agency.

However, neither Canada nor the US has any laws requiring labelling of cross contamination of allergens.
 

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We have the Canadian Food Inspection Agency.

However, neither Canada nor the US has any laws requiring labelling of cross contamination of allergens.
Wow , I just ck'd that- Unbelievable.
Here is some info that might help you. The law needs to be changed!
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USDA FALCPA Food Allergen Fact Sheet
Found: http://origin.www.fns.usda.gov/fdd/_private/_audit/FoodAllergenFactSheet.pdf

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USDA Food Safety and Inspection Service (FSIS) Fact Sheet
http://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/wcm/connect/1e98f24c-d616-443f-8490-f7372476d558/Allergies_and_Food_Safety.pdf?MOD=AJPERES

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Need to File a Complaint Due To An Adverse Reaction?
Did you or your child experience an adverse reaction to a product and you are unsure what to do? It is recommended that you contact the manufacturer of the product to inform them of the adverse reaction. Be sure you have scrutenize the ingredients, the label and understand FALCPA law. You may also contact the FDA for guidance.

FDA Consumer Complaint Department by State
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FDA Information on Reporting Concerns
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Sources:
U.S. Food and Drug Administration, Food Labeling & Nutrition: Guidance for Industries, including the Food Allergen Labeling and Consumer Protection Act of 2004 (Edition 4); Final Guidance.
Guidance for Industry: Questions and Answers Regarding Food Allergens, including the Food Allergen Labeling and Consumer Protection Act of 2004 (Edition 4); Final Guidance

Untied States Department of Agriculture (USDA) Food Safety and Inspection Service (FSIS) Fact Sheet
http://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/wcm/connect/1e98f24c-d616-443f-8490-f7372476d558/Allergies_and_Food_Safety.pdf?MOD=AJPERES

Food Allergy Research and Resource Program - Dairy Free & Non-Dairy Information
Dairy-Free and Non-Dairy? | Food Allergy Research and Resource Program | University of Nebraska–Lincoln

USDA FALCPA Food Allergen Fact Sheet
Found: http://origin.www.fns.usda.gov/fdd/_private/_audit/FoodAllergenFactSheet.pdf
 

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I've contacted CFIA a few times. Once over canned food that had gone bad, once over what appeared to be incorrect labelling. They will investigate about reactions from cross contamination. They will also "recommend" the company make a recall. But, unless it's changed, neither of our governments will force a recall. If you read the wording, I think they always says Company X has voluntarily recalled.... We need better laws.

Regarding allergic reactions, I have called the manufacturing companies directly. Once my complaint was that it was a product known to be safe for people with sesame allergy, but they had changed the line and it was now a risk. They did choose to add a "may contain sesame" warning, but it was teeny-tiny white letters on shiny silver plastic. Try reading THAT under flourescent lights in a grocery store. I got a call-back from someone at the company over that asking me loads of questions. They decided to change the packaging to make sure it was more obvious and easy to read.
 

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I've contacted CFIA a few times. Once over canned food that had gone bad, once over what appeared to be incorrect labelling. They will investigate about reactions from cross contamination. They will also "recommend" the company make a recall. But, unless it's changed, neither of our governments will force a recall. If you read the wording, I think they always says Company X has voluntarily recalled.... We need better laws.

Regarding allergic reactions, I have called the manufacturing companies directly. Once my complaint was that it was a product known to be safe for people with sesame allergy, but they had changed the line and it was now a risk. They did choose to add a "may contain sesame" warning, but it was teeny-tiny white letters on shiny silver plastic. Try reading THAT under flourescent lights in a grocery store. I got a call-back from someone at the company over that asking me loads of questions. They decided to change the packaging to make sure it was more obvious and easy to read.
Good for you for speaking up!
 

AnnaMarie

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I called a company to ask about their policy regarding labelling "may contain" if a food may have been in contact with an allergen. Do they label on the product and if so what allergens do they label for.

She asks for a product code and she can tell me in in less than a minute if it has been in contact with allergens.

I again explain that I want to know company policy and labelling on product packaging. She puts me on hold for about 5 minutes. Comes back and reads some cya nonsense that does not say anything about packaging or labelling. So I ask her which allergens this includes. She doesn't know.

By this point I have decided I'm going to send an e-mail. I need this in writing. But, since there is one specific product I'm interested in, I ask her if she can check whether this one specific product may be cross contaminated with peanuts, tree nuts, or sesame. She says she can check in less than one minute. She puts me on hold.

After 10 minutes she comes back on and says she does not have enough authority to get that information. She can have someone with that authority call me back. In 2-3 business days.

Through all this I have remained polite and calm. (I did not have high hopes.) But after verifying my phone number and again saying someone with more authority will call me back in 2-3 business days she then goes back on-script and says "Have I helped you with all your concerns today?"

And that's when I kind of lost it.

I told her that NO she had not helped me with anything. A simple question about labelling should not require a supervisor to intervene. And in this day and age it should never take more than a few minutes for a company to answer such simple questions.

I don't expect every food to be made safe for me. But I do expect a company to know what runs on lines with major allergens and to be able to tell me that in a few minutes. Or better yet....put it on the freaking package. It's not that difficult. Lot's of companies manage it.

Still no call. Guess they can't count either.

Went to their page and couldn't find an e-mail address. They do have a Facebook page though, so I sent a pm. I detailed the call last week (a bit more detail than here actually). We'll see if I get a response or not.

I almost posted on their page, but whenever you say "allergy" on Facebook trolls come out. I don't feel strong enough for a public flogging today, so I went with pm instead.