I love Joe Hill ~ BUT ~

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  1. carrie's younger brother

    carrie's younger brother Well-Known Member

    Butt, butt, but...
     
  2. fushingfeef

    fushingfeef Uber-in-waiting

    But it's not Joe Hill's ending or Stephen King's ending. It's THE ending. To quote SK's "The Breathing Method":
    "It is the tale, not he who tells it."
    SK also has talked about writing with the door closed, then writing with the door open (getting input from others).
     
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  3. EMTP513

    EMTP513 Well-Known Member

    Oh great. I thought he was referring to his son, Owen. That was in the book Doctor Sleep though.
    Incidentally, that's why I stopped reading one and kept reading the other.
    Also it makes me angry that he played a game when from the very second I saw his face on the back of the book it was dead-effing-obvious he was Stephen King's son. I'm talking about when everyone else either was oblivious to the fact or were pretending to be unaware.
    It made me furious, because I can't stand being played for no reason. My first thought when he failed to mention it is 'Who the hell do you think YOU'RE kidding? Because it damn sure ISN'T me.'
    I'm sorry, I just think that if you look almost EXACTLY like your dad - and could have been mistaken for him at that age - that it's 200 kinds of stupid to act like you're NOT related to him.
    Okay, so it's a pet peeve but I also hate when people lie to me. A lie of omission instead of commission.
    It just seemed unnecessary to do it because it was obvious from the word go that he was related to Stephen King. I have no idea why nobody knew it, especially if they looked at the photo on the back of the book Heart-shaped Box.
     
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  4. kingricefan

    kingricefan All-being, keeper of Space, Time & Dimension.

    I'm sorry that you feel that Joe 'lied' to you. Incidently, Joe used his REAL name for his published works- Joe HILL-strom King. Joe didn't 'play' anyone.
     
  5. Neesy

    Neesy #1 fan (Annie Wilkes cousin) 1st cousin Mom's side

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    So speaking of Joe Hill, at our local library we had Horns, NOS4A2, Heart Shaped Box, and some story about Ghosts? - I was surprised they had so many of his books.
     
  6. kingricefan

    kingricefan All-being, keeper of Space, Time & Dimension.

    Just curious here- why are you not upset that Steve downright lied and lied about being Richard Bachman? Or maybe you are and I just don't now it yet. Please note that I am not attacking you or making light of your feelings. I'm just curious. I'm just not getting why you are so upset with Joe. When I found out that he was Stephen and Tabby's son I just chuckled to myself and thought 'Good for you! You made it on your own without using your parents name to make things easy for you. Right on!' Just wondering....
     
  7. GNTLGNT

    GNTLGNT Idiot in Situ and Unholy Devourer of Cookies

    ...faster than a speeding bullet....
     
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  8. GNTLGNT

    GNTLGNT Idiot in Situ and Unholy Devourer of Cookies

    ...I'm curious as well....I never thought anyone was being underhanded or inappropriate....
     
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  9. HollyGolightly

    HollyGolightly Well-Known Member

    Oh wow! Though this was sweet, I really liked the published ending. And it thrills me that he took advice from his son. It was a good read, and a great love story.
     
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  10. Moderator

    Moderator Ms. Mod Administrator

    Joe had very good reasons for not using Joe King when he first started publishing and the publishers he submitted to had no idea what he looked like. He wanted to get published on the merits of his work, not because he was Stephen King's son. I completely understand that. If it was me, I'd always be wondering if it was whether I really was good enough to be a published author or whether the publisher just took me on because they knew the name and association would sell the books. By the time it came out that he was Stephen's son, he'd already won awards for his work so there was no doubt that his success was because of his talent not his dad's. Owen took a different route, but that was his personal choice and it's worked out fine for him.
     
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  11. HollyGolightly

    HollyGolightly Well-Known Member

    I loved Heart Shaped Box, I let NOS4 slip right through my hands because the beginning scared me, I haven't read the others because I can't find them. I think he's amazingly talented. And incredibly handsome. And I bet he's got a great tushie.
     
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  12. FlakeNoir

    FlakeNoir Beta/Moderator Moderator

    :rofl:
     
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  13. GNTLGNT

    GNTLGNT Idiot in Situ and Unholy Devourer of Cookies

    ...that automatically seals the deal for me on a writer...if their azz can crack walnuts, then a reading I shall go....
     
  14. EMTP513

    EMTP513 Well-Known Member

    His picture is on Heart-shaped Box, and it was on there from the minute he published it. Some people look so much like their parent that they could be almost a twin of them.
    My nephew looks like my brother-in-law that way. Like a carbon copy or twin of Larry. Unfortunately so, but never mind.
    I don't see how someone who published that book, and included the picture on the back, would miss it.
     
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  15. kingricefan

    kingricefan All-being, keeper of Space, Time & Dimension.

    Is that why you got all of those Danielle Steele books on your shelf? :lol:
     
  16. kingricefan

    kingricefan All-being, keeper of Space, Time & Dimension.

    Joe started out writing short stories. Those don't require a photo when they are submitted for publication. Those stories are collected (mostly) in 20th Century Ghosts which was published after Heart Shaped Box.
     
  17. Moderator

    Moderator Ms. Mod Administrator

    Heart-Shaped Box wasn't his first book, though, and I think his identity had been discovered at that point. He'd published Twentieth Century Ghosts before that as well as some short stories.
     
  18. Moderator

    Moderator Ms. Mod Administrator

    We must have been typing at the same time! =D
     
  19. kingricefan

    kingricefan All-being, keeper of Space, Time & Dimension.

    Ka!!
     
  20. blunthead

    blunthead Well-Known Member

    Ha!
     

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