I might be swimming against the tide, but...

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skimom2

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I think Ernest Hemingway, J.D. Salinger, and Jack Kerouac are overrated.

And Chuck Palahniuk and Jonathan Franzen are irritating.

And I like being a SAHM, most of the time :)

Where do you swim against the current?

(Please, no politics or religion. I'm weary unto death of those topics.)
 

Kurben

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One thing i'm thinking about is the Swedish poet Tomas Tranströmer who won the Nobel Prize a couple of years back. I have never understood why people like him and so many, not only in sweden, consider him a great poet. Never liked him and consider him very overrated but i am in the minority. (whats a SAHM?) And i agree about Hemingway and Kerouac. Afraid i havent read Salinger.

Another thing which perhaps will get me into hot water is Dean Koontz. I have read about 10 of his novels. 2 were good, the rest were.... some ok for the moment and some i found boring. Another was Michael Crichton. A lot of great ideas but seldom they were made into a really good book. Decent thrillers but not so very much more.
 

Sundrop

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I think Ernest Hemingway, J.D. Salinger, and Jack Kerouac are overrated.

And Chuck Palahniuk and Jonathan Franzen are irritating.

And I like being a SAHM, most of the time :)

Where do you swim against the current?

(Please, no politics or religion. I'm weary unto death of those topics.
I've only heard of two of the people you mentioned..... Guess I'm not missing out on much.
I do know some really entertaining local folks if you're interested
 

Dana Jean

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I think Ernest Hemingway, J.D. Salinger, and Jack Kerouac are overrated.

And Chuck Palahniuk and Jonathan Franzen are irritating.

And I like being a SAHM, most of the time :)

Where do you swim against the current?

(Please, no politics or religion. I'm weary unto death of those topics.)
Agree.

Have you read On The Road? I was trying really hard to be cool and think it was a masterpiece like all the brainiacs do, but I just couldn't do it. I thought it was a confusing boring trip. Dean is my friend. We got on the road. We hitched a ride. We got high. We find chicks, man. We are too cool for school. We leave Dean. Bye bye Dean.

Chuck just gets weirder and weirder with his stuff. I just read Beautiful You about sex toys. Good lord. I think Chuck wrote this to see what crap he could get away with and we would still buy it. I bet he cackled the whole way through knowing the sheep would eat it up. Luckily I got it as advanced reader's copy.

Ernest's Old Man and the Sea had me wanting to personally throw Santiago into the murk to sleep with the fishes. The story itself could have been a short story and been interesting. A whole book?

Salinger's Catcher in the Rye did nothing for me either. Not badly written, interesting topic but I was bored once again.

Haven't read any Frandzen.
 

Spideyman

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I think Ernest Hemingway, J.D. Salinger, and Jack Kerouac are overrated.

And Chuck Palahniuk and Jonathan Franzen are irritating.

And I like being a SAHM, most of the time :)

Where do you swim against the current?

(Please, no politics or religion. I'm weary unto death of those topics.)

Swimming against the tide can be a good thing. Agree with your post.
 

skimom2

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Agree.

Have you read On The Road? I was trying really hard to be cool and think it was a masterpiece like all the brainiacs do, but I just couldn't do it. I thought it was a confusing boring trip. Dean is my friend. We got on the road. We hitched a ride. We got high. We find chicks, man. We are too cool for school. We leave Dean. Bye bye Dean.

Chuck just gets weirder and weirder with his stuff. I just read Beautiful You about sex toys. Good lord. I think Chuck wrote this to see what crap he could get away with and we would still buy it. I bet he cackled the whole way through knowing the sheep would eat it up. Luckily I got it as advanced reader's copy.

Ernest's Old Man and the Sea had me wanting to personally throw Santiago into the murk to sleep with the fishes. The story itself could have been a short story and been interesting. A whole book?

Salinger's Catcher in the Rye did nothing for me either. Not badly written, interesting topic but I was bored once again.

Haven't read any Frandzen.
"Well off white people whining" books. Not a fan.

Yup, I was bored to tears by On The Road and Catcher in the Rye.
 

fushingfeef

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Aug 14, 2009
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IMHO, all of the Beat writers were pretentious and extremely overrated. Benzedrine fueled gibberish most of it.
I do have a soft spot for the drug-addled spectacle of William S. Burroughs, whom I wouldn't lump in with the rest, but I would concede that his stuff can't be everyone's cup of tea...heck, that's part of the reason I like it. :devil:
 

swiftdog2.0

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I do have a soft spot for the drug-addled spectacle of William S. Burroughs, whom I wouldn't lump in with the rest, but I would concede that his stuff can't be everyone's cup of tea...heck, that's part of the reason I like it. :devil:

Burroughs was more heroin fueled. A contemporary of the Beats but a different style.
 

skimom2

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I like broccoli, asparagus, cauliflower, cabbage, spinach...all those things 'everyone' hates.
I like having my kids home for the summer.
I don't mind emotional manipulation in books/movies (even when I can see it) if the writer does it well.

:)