In Cold BLood by Truman Capote

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Checkman

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I had been curious about "In Cold Blood" for many years, but for some reason I've always found some reason not to read it. Well in 2011 I ran out of excuses and dived in. An early review of mine originally posted on Goodreads.

First of all let me state that this was a very easy read. It moves along at a good clip and never drags. Well not quite true. It drags somewhat when Capote spends several pages covering Perry Smith's background. There is a touch of infatuation in this section of the book. I now understand why there are those who believe that Capote might have fallen in love with Perry. It's also very obvious that he had no use for Dick Hickock. He describes Dick in very unflattering terms and there is a harshness to that man.On the other hand there is almost a gauziness to Perry. There were times when I felt like I was watching an old black and white movie in which the leading actress is filmed through a filmy material in order to make her softer and more romantic. Now I don't think this detracts from the book. In many ways I think it adds to the book's impact. Perry was a mass murderer and yet he was also a human being (in contrast to say a toaster?) who still connected with Capote. It makes his crime even more awful because we realize he wasn't some kind of mindless killing machine.

As a police officer I found the chapters dealing with the actual investigation to be well written. Capote does not over-dramatize the meticulous and (at times) mind numbing work that goes into a criminal investigation. Nor does he portray the detectives as supermen. Actually I was impressed with how balanced Capote was. For a writer who had no experience working the "crime beat" he did yeoman work. I believe that the fact that Capote and the lead investigator became friends helped. Capote was allowed access to the investigation and got to know the K.B.I.(Kansas Bureau of Investigation) agents. They ,in turn, got to know him as well and ,I have no doubt, gave him more background material. For while Capote was known to be a skilful manipulator of people he must of had some likable qualities as well. The detectives ,and others involved with the investigation, seemed to be willing to open up to him. It shows.There is some outstanding details that add to the book's richness.

Much is made of the fact that In Cold Blood was the first of what is now called "True Crime". I won't dispute this. But there is more substance in this book. Since it was the first it isn't adhering to a formula. It established the formula.This does not diminish the books place in literature. Yes it was a massive best seller, but just because it was popular doesn't mean it lacks weight. Mainstream popularity should not change the book's place in literary history. Capote was an intelligent man and a pretty good writer. Consequently In Cold Blood is an intelligent and well written book.

Finally ,in closing, I do have to agree that the murders lack the punch that would have been delivered to readers fifty years ago. We're all much too used to mass murders occurring on a monthly and weekly basis. Not just in the United States, but all over the world. Some say this takes away from the book. I don't agree. In Cold Blood is now old enough that it has become part of history.

In Cold Blood takes the modern reader to an older America. An older America in which many believed they were safe and bad things didn't happen in nice homes. Certainly not to nice, middle class families in their homes. In retrospect we know this was a false belief, but many believed it then.

Capote gives the reader in 2011 a look into the past, but don't forget that when Capote was writing the book it wasn't in the distant past. It was the present. He couldn't have known (though he might have hoped) that in the end he was giving us a time capsule. This, in the end, is his greatest accomplishment. This was the country that people wanted to believe existed and at the time many thought did.But nothing lasts forever and that includes dreams and illusions. Eventually hard old reality is going to kick open the door. By the late fifties that cherished dream was starting to fade. This book was in on the beginning of it and as a result is a valuable documentation of that period.
 

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I had been curious about "In Cold Blood" for many years, but for some reason I've always found some reason not to read it. Well in 2011 I ran out of excuses and dived in. An early review of mine originally posted on Goodreads.

First of all let me state that this was a very easy read. It moves along at a good clip and never drags. Well not quite true. It drags somewhat when Capote spends several pages covering Perry Smith's background. There is a touch of infatuation in this section of the book. I now understand why there are those who believe that Capote might have fallen in love with Perry. It's also very obvious that he had no use for Dick Hickock. He describes Dick in very unflattering terms and there is a harshness to that man.On the other hand there is almost a gauziness to Perry. There were times when I felt like I was watching an old black and white movie in which the leading actress is filmed through a filmy material in order to make her softer and more romantic. Now I don't think this detracts from the book. In many ways I think it adds to the book's impact. Perry was a mass murderer and yet he was also a human being (in contrast to say a toaster?) who still connected with Capote. It makes his crime even more awful because we realize he wasn't some kind of mindless killing machine.

As a police officer I found the chapters dealing with the actual investigation to be well written. Capote does not over-dramatize the meticulous and (at times) mind numbing work that goes into a criminal investigation. Nor does he portray the detectives as supermen. Actually I was impressed with how balanced Capote was. For a writer who had no experience working the "crime beat" he did yeoman work. I believe that the fact that Capote and the lead investigator became friends helped. Capote was allowed access to the investigation and got to know the K.B.I.(Kansas Bureau of Investigation) agents. They ,in turn, got to know him as well and ,I have no doubt, gave him more background material. For while Capote was known to be a skilful manipulator of people he must of had some likable qualities as well. The detectives ,and others involved with the investigation, seemed to be willing to open up to him. It shows.There is some outstanding details that add to the book's richness.

Much is made of the fact that In Cold Blood was the first of what is now called "True Crime". I won't dispute this. But there is more substance in this book. Since it was the first it isn't adhering to a formula. It established the formula.This does not diminish the books place in literature. Yes it was a massive best seller, but just because it was popular doesn't mean it lacks weight. Mainstream popularity should not change the book's place in literary history. Capote was an intelligent man and a pretty good writer. Consequently In Cold Blood is an intelligent and well written book.

Finally ,in closing, I do have to agree that the murders lack the punch that would have been delivered to readers fifty years ago. We're all much too used to mass murders occurring on a monthly and weekly basis. Not just in the United States, but all over the world. Some say this takes away from the book. I don't agree. In Cold Blood is now old enough that it has become part of history.

In Cold Blood takes the modern reader to an older America. An older America in which many believed they were safe and bad things didn't happen in nice homes. Certainly not to nice, middle class families in their homes. In retrospect we know this was a false belief, but many believed it then.

Capote gives the reader in 2011 a look into the past, but don't forget that when Capote was writing the book it wasn't in the distant past. It was the present. He couldn't have known (though he might have hoped) that in the end he was giving us a time capsule. This, in the end, is his greatest accomplishment. This was the country that people wanted to believe existed and at the time many thought did.But nothing lasts forever and that includes dreams and illusions. Eventually hard old reality is going to kick open the door. By the late fifties that cherished dream was starting to fade. This book was in on the beginning of it and as a result is a valuable documentation of that period.

I read this at about twenty, it was probably mostly just a read at that time, haunting though, the style maybe more than the content, and I did like the style, well different than the stuff I was reading then.
But then I read it again at around forty or so, your spot on:thumbs_up:
 

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I had been curious about "In Cold Blood" for many years, but for some reason I've always found some reason not to read it. Well in 2011 I ran out of excuses and dived in. An early review of mine originally posted on Goodreads.

First of all let me state that this was a very easy read. It moves along at a good clip and never drags. Well not quite true. It drags somewhat when Capote spends several pages covering Perry Smith's background. There is a touch of infatuation in this section of the book. I now understand why there are those who believe that Capote might have fallen in love with Perry. It's also very obvious that he had no use for Dick Hickock. He describes Dick in very unflattering terms and there is a harshness to that man.On the other hand there is almost a gauziness to Perry. There were times when I felt like I was watching an old black and white movie in which the leading actress is filmed through a filmy material in order to make her softer and more romantic. Now I don't think this detracts from the book. In many ways I think it adds to the book's impact. Perry was a mass murderer and yet he was also a human being (in contrast to say a toaster?) who still connected with Capote. It makes his crime even more awful because we realize he wasn't some kind of mindless killing machine.

As a police officer I found the chapters dealing with the actual investigation to be well written. Capote does not over-dramatize the meticulous and (at times) mind numbing work that goes into a criminal investigation. Nor does he portray the detectives as supermen. Actually I was impressed with how balanced Capote was. For a writer who had no experience working the "crime beat" he did yeoman work. I believe that the fact that Capote and the lead investigator became friends helped. Capote was allowed access to the investigation and got to know the K.B.I.(Kansas Bureau of Investigation) agents. They ,in turn, got to know him as well and ,I have no doubt, gave him more background material. For while Capote was known to be a skilful manipulator of people he must of had some likable qualities as well. The detectives ,and others involved with the investigation, seemed to be willing to open up to him. It shows.There is some outstanding details that add to the book's richness.

Much is made of the fact that In Cold Blood was the first of what is now called "True Crime". I won't dispute this. But there is more substance in this book. Since it was the first it isn't adhering to a formula. It established the formula.This does not diminish the books place in literature. Yes it was a massive best seller, but just because it was popular doesn't mean it lacks weight. Mainstream popularity should not change the book's place in literary history. Capote was an intelligent man and a pretty good writer. Consequently In Cold Blood is an intelligent and well written book.

Finally ,in closing, I do have to agree that the murders lack the punch that would have been delivered to readers fifty years ago. We're all much too used to mass murders occurring on a monthly and weekly basis. Not just in the United States, but all over the world. Some say this takes away from the book. I don't agree. In Cold Blood is now old enough that it has become part of history.

In Cold Blood takes the modern reader to an older America. An older America in which many believed they were safe and bad things didn't happen in nice homes. Certainly not to nice, middle class families in their homes. In retrospect we know this was a false belief, but many believed it then.

Capote gives the reader in 2011 a look into the past, but don't forget that when Capote was writing the book it wasn't in the distant past. It was the present. He couldn't have known (though he might have hoped) that in the end he was giving us a time capsule. This, in the end, is his greatest accomplishment. This was the country that people wanted to believe existed and at the time many thought did.But nothing lasts forever and that includes dreams and illusions. Eventually hard old reality is going to kick open the door. By the late fifties that cherished dream was starting to fade. This book was in on the beginning of it and as a result is a valuable documentation of that period.

Excellent overview.
 

Walter Oobleck

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Was there some Capote in Dill, in Harper Lee's story? I like the first thing Dill tells them...I can read...you got anything needs readin' I can do it. Never have read this one although I have read others that are based on true events. And yeah, nice overview.
 

PatInTheHat

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Was there some Capote in Dill, in Harper Lee's story? I like the first thing Dill tells them...I can read...you got anything needs readin' I can do it. Never have read this one although I have read others that are based on true events. And yeah, nice overview.
Yeah they were lifelong pals, she helped Capote on In Cold Blood
 

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The thing that sort of bugs me about this book is that it is touted as a true story, a biography of sorts, when in fact it is based on a true story. Truman makes himself omnipotent in this book, acting like he knew what the Clutter family were thinking, which he couldn't possibly know. It is a fiction book based on some facts.

I did find it interesting though.
 

PatInTheHat

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The thing that sort of bugs me about this book is that it is touted as a true story, a biography of sorts, when in fact it is based on a true story. Truman makes himself omnipotent in this book, acting like he knew what the Clutter family were thinking, which he couldn't possibly know. It is a fiction book based on some facts.

I did find it interesting though.
Yeah it was more historical fiction, mostly because it came from Capote's own perspective/perception/active imaginaton, but is still an accurate, hmm, time capsule maybe, of the perceived/conceived vs. real realities of the times...but now remember, from my perspective, when I first read it, I was just comin' off a big Fonzi Ritchie and Potsie Happy Days high ol' time not that long before:biggrin2:.
Ya know I think he was called out on his facts til the day he died, and was kinda considered the PT Barnum of literature by some respectable literary types after it was published...still a decent snapshot of real post war Americana, or somethin' akin to that.
 

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Yes,
Yeah it was more historical fiction, mostly because it came from Capote's own perspective/perception/active imaginaton, but is still an accurate, hmm, time capsule maybe, of the perceived/conceived vs. real realities of the times...but now remember, from my perspective, when I first read it, I was just comin' off a big Fonzi Ritchie and Potsie Happy Days high ol' time not that long before:biggrin2:.
Ya know I think he was called out on his facts til the day he died, and was kinda considered the PT Barnum of literature by some respectable literary types after it was published...still a decent snapshot of real post war Americana, or somethin' akin to that.
still a good book, but I didn't get the huge kudos it was getting. Historical fiction is exactly it!
 

PatInTheHat

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Yes,

still a good book, but I didn't get the huge kudos it was getting. Historical fiction is exactly it!
The kudos were probably mostly market hype, I mean for it's day that was some kinda sensationalism.
And also probably why I most likely finally picked it up and read it was the sheer numbers of hard copies still floating around, around 1980.
Gee whiz they were everywhere, publisher musta printed a couple boatloads of 'em, so they had to move 'em...mentioned on a post about kinda the same/same with another bloody true crime novel, Helter Skelter, like In Cold Blood, there were so many out there you couldn't give 'em away, except to folks that wanted multible copies maybe...they print the ever lovin' bejeezus out of 'em, they gotta move 'em I suspect, and sensationalism of any kind, always has, and always will, work.
 

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Was there some Capote in Dill, in Harper Lee's story? I like the first thing Dill tells them...I can read...you got anything needs readin' I can do it. Never have read this one although I have read others that are based on true events. And yeah, nice overview.
Yes Dill was basically Capote. One of the extra features on the DVD and Blue-ray of "To Kill A Mockingbird" focuses on Capote and Harper Lee's friendship. According to many sources (not just the two movies) Harper Lee was instrumental in getting the locals in Kansas to open up to Capote when he was researching the book.
 

Checkman

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Yeah it was more historical fiction, mostly because it came from Capote's own perspective/perception/active imaginaton, but is still an accurate, hmm, time capsule maybe, of the perceived/conceived vs. real realities of the times...but now remember, from my perspective, when I first read it, I was just comin' off a big Fonzi Ritchie and Potsie Happy Days high ol' time not that long before:biggrin2:.
Ya know I think he was called out on his facts til the day he died, and was kinda considered the PT Barnum of literature by some respectable literary types after it was published...still a decent snapshot of real post war Americana, or somethin' akin to that.

One of the first to focus on a mass murder. A few years ago I actually was able to look at the 1960 Holcomb high school yearbook which Kenyon and Nancy Clutter attended. There was a couple pages dedicated to them and I found that more moving and heartfelt. Google the family and you'll find images of those pages.

I have no doubt that Capote was motivated by the desire to have a bestseller and being a writer who pushed boundaries I think he saw the possibility for a book that would both horrify and suck people in. A surefire moneymaker. Evidently the book made Capote very wealthy. He fudges facts and out and out invented some events, but it's still a pretty good read. What are you going to do?
 

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One of the first to focus on a mass murder. A few years ago I actually was able to look at the 1960 Holcomb high school yearbook which Kenyon and Nancy Clutter attended. There was a couple pages dedicated to them and I found that more moving and heartfelt. Google the family and you'll find images of those pages.

I have no doubt that Capote was motivated by the desire to have a bestseller and being a writer who pushed boundaries I think he saw the possibility for a book that would both horrify and suck people in. A surefire moneymaker. Evidently the book made Capote very wealthy. He fudges facts and out and out invented some events, but it's still a pretty good read. What are you going to do?
Oh yeah that was the book that made his bones and thrust him into almost American icon territory...he was a pretty big hit on late night tv I remember, one of Johnny Carson's favorite guests, not just as an author, and he was a pretty funny guy..oh but that off a chalkboard voice, when I read him I would hear that voice and it took some doin' to adjust my mental ear to it:biggrin2:.
All in all I really liked Capote, witty, irreverant, opinionated, a pretty damn fine writer, and he was all showman:thumbs_up:
 

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This thing about inventing True Crime..... I mean people had been writing about true Crime long before Capote. Not in his style perhaps not sure about that. But i know, just from memory, that Dorothy Sayers wrote about the Wallace Case and that Arthur Conan Doyle wrote about the Edalji case long before Capote. And john Dickson Carr wrote The Murder of sir Edward Berry Godfrey in the 30-ties about a unexplained murder in the 1678. Didn't change a single fact or name but made it into a good interesting read. And there have been many others. Anyhow to say that he was the first or established a formula is, according to me, plain wrong. That does not take away the many merits the book does have.
 

Checkman

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This thing about inventing True Crime..... I mean people had been writing about true Crime long before Capote. Not in his style perhaps not sure about that. But i know, just from memory, that Dorothy Sayers wrote about the Wallace Case and that Arthur Conan Doyle wrote about the Edalji case long before Capote. And john Dickson Carr wrote The Murder of sir Edward Berry Godfrey in the 30-ties about a unexplained murder in the 1678. Didn't change a single fact or name but made it into a good interesting read. And there have been many others. Anyhow to say that he was the first or established a formula is, according to me, plain wrong. That does not take away the many merits the book does have.

Good points Kurben. You're right. Capote wasn't the first, but he was given the credit for creating the genre by popular culture and the mass media. Which makes him first in the minds of millions. Fair or not........and it really isn't. Though I'm sure Capote was more than willing to take all the credit.
 
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My grandfather knew the Clutter family through agricultural venues, like cattle markets and stockyard shows through the mid-west. The Clutters lived in Kansas, my grandfather lived in north Texas, but the farm community at that time was surprisingly small....and so In Cold Blood has been a book of note in my home. I was fascinated by it when I read it the first time.

I also loved Philip Seymour Hoffmann as Capote. Brilliant portrayal. Had he not screwed up his life with heroin, he'd have won another Oscar or two, I'm certain.
 

Checkman

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My grandfather knew the Clutter family through agricultural venues, like cattle markets and stockyard shows through the mid-west. The Clutters lived in Kansas, my grandfather lived in north Texas, but the farm community at that time was surprisingly small....and so In Cold Blood has been a book of note in my home. I was fascinated by it when I read it the first time.

I also loved Philip Seymour Hoffmann as Capote. Brilliant portrayal. Had he not screwed up his life with heroin, he'd have won another Oscar or two, I'm certain.

Yes he was destined for another Oscar. Sadly his story is all too common.
 
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