Is everyone missing the point?

[Patricia A]

It's legal in our shared state.

It is indeed.

 

[Arkay Lynchpin]

It's legal here in Oz too (as long as you either know the cops you bought it from or weren't caught).

As to the thread, we'll know what 'THEY' want us to know next year when the National Archive opens its vault.

 

[shookme]

If you truly believe he did not act alone, you would enjoy Stephen Hunter's "The Third Bullet." It would help to read "Point of Impact" first but the rest of the series is not necessary.

Yes, excellent story that paints a clear picture how Oswalds 6.5 Carcano bullet couldn't have done to JFK what it alledgedly did.

 

[kay brown]

I'm always a day late or a dollar short so it doesn't surprise me that only now have I become aware of the film. I know it's fiction. I know Steven King is a terrific writer with an exceptional sense of make believe, but I look on this book as something else, a perpetuation of deliberate falsehoods pertaining to the assassination of John Kennedy. At the end of the book King felt the need to confirm his belief that Lee Oswald was guilty as sin. Seeing as how his book was written prior to Judyth Baker's "Lee and Me" I'd assumed (hoped) Mr. King had read her book by now and come to a different conclusion. It seems I assumed wrongly. Films are a powerful medium in explaining historical events, oft times incorrectly yet the moviegoers immediately take the film at face value with no critical thinking whatsoever. I'm certain this will be the case with this film, sad to say. The fact is Lee Oswald never shot our President. He was a patsy just as he declared prior to his murder. Truth. Honest truth.

You are very much correction in your conclusion that King surprisingly has it all wrong about Oswald..set up for sure..a patsy.

 

[kay brown]

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There is absolutely no doubt Oswald assassinated JFK. There is no credible evidence that he was involved with anyone else. The irony is that for the last 50 plus years in their search for the truth the conspiracy theorists have engaged in all manner of deceit, half truths and outright lunacy to create any doubt whatsoever regarding Oswald's guilt. The case is very simple and was solved within two hours by the Dallas police. Oswald's rifle was found on the 6th floor of the Texas School Book Depository from which witnesses indicated the shots were fired. Bullet casings from Oswald's rifle were found under the window. Oswald had no alibi at the time the shots were fired and fled the building within minutes without even pausing to ask what was going on. He went home and got a pistol then shot a police officer before sneaking into a movie theater. When the police showed up Oswald resisted arrest, shouted "it's all over now" and tried to shoot the arresting officer. He denied owning a rifle despite order and shipping forms and pictures of him holding the rifle. He denied carrying a long package to work that morning even though the fellow who drove him indicated he had done so. Oswald's prints were found on the rifle, boxes in the sniper's nest and a long bag adjacent to the sniper's nest. It is a drum beat of guilt. We have more evidence that links Oswald to this crime than we have to link John Wilkes Booth to the Lincoln assassination. It is the stuff of Bigfoot hunters to allege he was not the assassin.

Everything you just said is wrong. .so referring to any one sentence. How anyone who has seriously studied this subject can believe the lone nut theory..the magic bullet theory..that piece of **** rifle that couldn't even be sited in is ludicrous... however based on the governing mentality of this board..agree to disagree you have your opinion me mine..bla bla

 

[Moderator]

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Everything you just said is wrong. .so referring to any one sentence. How anyone who has seriously studied this subject can believe the lone nut theory..the magic bullet theory..that piece of **** rifle that couldn't even be sited in is ludicrous... however based on the governing mentality of this board..agree to disagree you have your opinion me mine..bla bla

This really isn't resulting in any meaningful discussion.

 

[kay brown]

I'm with you. I think Oswald was a shooter. When I see that film, no one can convince me that shots came from only one direction. But, like you say, I could be wrong.

Hey .. that is good that you can recognize that the shots had to have come from different directions..I am going to offer you this quick video that shows the shooter that was on the grassy knoll ..the shooter from behind.. his boss was actually across the street from the book depository building shooting from the Dal Tex building..his name was Charles Nicoletti... you do not have to accept this or watch it or what ever ..im simply trying to point you towards the truth as you seem to maybe being open to exploring the situation

 

[kay brown]

I'm always day late or a dollar short so it doesn't surprise me that only now have I become aware of the film. I know it's fiction. I know Steven King is a terrific writer with an exceptional sense of make believe, but I look on this book as something else, a perpetuation of deliberate falsehoods pertaining to the assassination of John Kennedy. At the end of the book King felt the need to confirm his belief that Lee Oswald was guilty as sin. Seeing as how his book was written prior to Judyth Baker's "Lee and Me" I'd assumed (hoped) Mr. King had read her book by now and come to a different conclusion. It seems I assumed wrongly. Films are a powerful medium in explaining historical events, oft times incorrectly yet the moviegoers immediately take the film at face value with no critical thinking whatsoever. I'm certain this will be the case with this film, sad to say. The fact is Lee Oswald never shot our President. He was a patsy just as he declared prior to his murder. Truth. Honest truth.

You are quite correct in that Lee was a patsy and set up...though after studying many aspects of his life and his association with the CIA I feel he had to have known there was a pending attempt to be made on President Kennedy's life..and one thing I have always found odd..there is no doubt he was in the 2nd floor break room during the shooting..calm..serene...but why? A political activist as him self not out front watching...there is more to that..and it's not because he was in the 6th floor..he wasnt...and you are right about Mr King...for many people this book/movie will perpetuate the big lie.

 

[Sigmund]

I'm going to hazard a guess. The JFK assassination conspiracy is not the only one you believe, correct?

Most likely, the 9/11 attacks, moon landing and area 54 are also conspiracies?

 

[kay brown]

I'm going to hazard a guess. The JFK assassination conspiracy is not the only one you believe, correct?

Most likely, the 9/11 attacks, moon landing and area 54 are also conspiracies?

Sigmund good to see you...Yes to 911 big time..the others I haven't studied...study 911 before you judge ..you deserve the truth

 

[staropeace]

Sigmund good to see you...Yes to 911 big time..the others I haven't studied...study 911 before you judge ..you deserve the truth

By study, you mean GOOGLE, I imagine. A lot of folks have become experts online, apparently. Most engineers will tell you that there is no mystery involving the towers. What happened was what happened. They were destroyed by Bin Laden's goons.

 

[not_nadine]

Sigmund good to see you...Yes to 911 big time..the others I haven't studied...study 911 before you judge ..you d eserve the truth

Don't mess with Sigs.

Shall I hand you a towel, now?

 

[kay brown]

By study, you mean GOOGLE, I imagine. A lot of folks have become experts online, apparently. Most engineers will tell you that there is no mystery involving the towers. What happened was what happened. They were destroyed by Bin Laden's goons.

Here we go again ...no they weren't .. but keep believing that if that's what makes you feel all tingly.. I always like on here when somebody says something they just plucked from the air like your "Most engineers...statement ..actually that isn't what most experts in thermodynamics, structural integrity, metallurgy, physics, controlled demolition..etc..etc..say.. and 9 of those goons you mentioned have been found still alive holding down responsible jobs and lives..and not one manifest has ever found to show that any of these terrorists were ever on any of these so called flights..and flight 93..that crashed in the field..looked like someone dug a trench and dumped trash in it..and zero body parts found to date...and don't forget the Pentagon hit by a bowing 747 ..all went into a nice little round hole and disappeared..no damage where the wings should have done much damage to the building and the most video protected building on the planet with close to 90 cameras and not counting surrounding businesses and not 1 video of a 747 crashing into...most experts say the Pentagon was struck by a missile..so what happended to the real planes?..but Sigmund believe the big lie if that's what trips ur trigger..

 

[kay brown]

I'm going to hazard a guess. The JFK assassination conspiracy is not the only one you believe, correct?

Most likely, the 9/11 attacks, moon landing and area 54 are also conspiracies?

Oh Sigmund...it's area 51 sweetie..not 54..

 

[kay brown]

Oh and all those cell phone calls from passengers thousands of feet in the air with statements" Like Mom this is your son John Peterson..you know your son..you believe me don't you mom? "..not possible to call from cell phones on jets....and you know the main reason the government can keep creating these stories with all these errors and mistakes it's because they know most Americans are real stupid or real lazy and pretty much believe anything their government tells them.

 

[kay brown]

I couldn't vote because frankly, I don't know. The whole thing has been speculated about to the point of utter confusion, to my thinking. But one thing that haunts me is Oswald yelling out that he was a patsy. I can't help but to believe him. But a patsy to whom? We may never know.

Patricia ..he was a patsy to the people who planned his death..LBJ..the CIA..the mob..J Edgar Hoover and certain FBI agents.

 

[kay brown]

That was my only problem with the book. I loved it, but I don't care for Kings opinion on the deal and it was hard for me to read all the Oswald related stuff in the book. I fought through it and am glad I did but it was hard. I just tried to look at it as pure fiction, which I personally believe the idea that Oswald shot JFK is pure fiction as well. But that's just me. I'm not here to debate and get into that. I love the story and the idea but personally I wish he had steered clear from touching the JFK assassination. I wish that could have been a purely fictional story relating to no real past events but I suppose he wanted it to really resonate with people. Didn't resonate with me any but I enjoyed it and loved the ending. I won't fight through it again though.

I had the same issue..Mr King perpetuated a lie..a false history that was forced on the American people by the entities who planned his murder and subsequent cover up

 

[Sigmund]

Oh Sigmund...it's area 51 sweetie..not 54..

Okay. Area 51 it is.

Beg pardon. Ummmm... no offense. I dislike, strongly dislike, a man calling me *Sweetie* or *HUN* My feminist (Feminism is an entire topic of and in itself. Ha!) self gets all kinda bent out of shape.

You can call me Sig, Sigs, Siggy, or Siggie.

Peace.

 

[Sigmund]

Don't mess with Sigs.

Shall I hand you a towel, now?

Ha!

Nottie, not_nadine . Do you work tomorrow?

 

[Sigmund]

I missed something.

Eeeeeeeee!

Logging off.