Is It Rape If You Orgasm?

Discussion in 'Everything Else' started by Sigmund, Jan 30, 2014.

  1. VultureLvr45

    VultureLvr45 Well-Known Member

    Hi Siggy,
    So the question I ask, Was permission to have sex granted?

    If no, then it was rape. Whatever physiological responses happened during the rape, it was still rape.

    If consent to have sex given, then no rape.

    As someone who has experienced this issue firsthand (not the O part) it is 'cut and dry'. No permission? It is rape, regardless.

     
  2. blunthead

    blunthead Well-Known Member

    Shoot, if I want to ignore a thread title I just ignore it.
     
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  3. Sigmund

    Sigmund Well-Known Member



    Good evening, Ms. Lisey.

    Thank you for post.

    Yes, Ma'am. While studying and talking to therapist who specialize in therapy with rape victims (female, male adults as well as young rape victims) the guilt they felt having *enjoyed* the assault is one of the strongest to overcome. In a number of cases when the therapy does not seem to progressing the therapist will gently probe the obstacle the client is manifesting. Come to discover their *guilt* having an orgasm(s) make them feel and question if they perhaps "asked for it".
    Or their body betrayed them during the assault.

    As you stated, therapists will explain the PHYSICAL RESPONSE as opposed to their mental/emotional response to their terror, violence and pain.

    Again, thank you for your post.

    Peace.
     
  4. Dana Jean

    Dana Jean Beta Tester/Moderator Moderator

    I read that many children especially don't come forward with abuse for many reasons, but one of them is that it felt good and they feel dirty because of that.
     
  5. Sigmund

    Sigmund Well-Known Member

    Good Evening msj.

    I, myself, never /thought/considered it.(Until I started studying.) It's an issue most rape therapist do not discuss openly precisely due what you mentioned in your post. (bold and italicized) I am sad to say, defense attorneys have used that argument.

    A rape victim will take the stand and testify. The defense attorney, having the information from the defendant, can and will cross examine the victim and ask if they had an orgasm during the assault. Thus, throwing the jury into a quandary and raise the question. Guilty beyond all reasonable doubt.

    Crud.

    Peace.
     
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  6. Sigmund

    Sigmund Well-Known Member

    Good evening, Sir.

    Thank you! I just checked my Hulu account and it's available for me to watch!

    Peace.

    (Dang! I want to go watch it right away and see how it all went down.)
     
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  7. Sigmund

    Sigmund Well-Known Member

    Good evening, Ms. Sunny.

    I know, right?

    Peace.
     
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  8. Sigmund

    Sigmund Well-Known Member

    Hi, Ms. Neesy!

    Thank you for your post. Most excellent.

    May I add, some rapists will DELIBERATELY try to achieve that result. And use it to further degrade, humiliate,and guilt their victim. (Evil bazztards.)

    Peace.
     
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  9. Sigmund

    Sigmund Well-Known Member


    H!

    Thank you for your post.

    Regarding the above bold and italicized of your post:

    I read a news report (before computers) . A mother was breastfeeding her infant and happened to mention that she experienced uterine contraction that were enjoyable. She was talking to a RN and she reported the mother to CPS. The infant was removed from home. The Mother was eventually reunited with her infant but it was a harrowing experience. (I will try to find the source._

    Peace.
     
  10. Sigmund

    Sigmund Well-Known Member

    Good evening, Sir.

    I beg your pardon. I apologize.

    Peace.
     
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  11. Sigmund

    Sigmund Well-Known Member


    Good evening.

    I beg your pardon and apologize.

    I meant no harm.

    Peace.
     
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  12. Sigmund

    Sigmund Well-Known Member


    Good evening, Ms. V.

    No. No permission. Rape.

    Peace.

    (Luv ya!)
     
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  13. Sigmund

    Sigmund Well-Known Member

    Hey, Good-Lookin'!

    I've missed you.

    Was I getting slammed? ( I was trying to catch up and respond to posts.)

    Crud.

    Frick.

    ...*sigh*...

    Peace.
     
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  14. VultureLvr45

    VultureLvr45 Well-Known Member

    Luv ya too. Take care of yourself. Difficult subject...Study on...onward and upward
     
  15. bryras

    bryras Well-Known Member

    It is happening. People are trying to define what "rape"is. I think that's the point of this thread - to show you how ridiculous this thinking is.

    No means no. Siggy understands this. She was just trying to get your thoughts on it. She studies human behavior.
     
  16. bryras

    bryras Well-Known Member

    Sunny, I don't get the head slap or who it is directed to. This type of topic is being presented in courts.
     
  17. mjs9153

    mjs9153 Guest

    Gotcha,but I have had experience with rape victims,firsthand,and the question of orgasm just has not been broached on the victim's part..yes,on the actor's,especially because it helps to determine the possibility of dna evidence being present on the person or clothing of either party..but I have never heard of a defense attorney raising that kind of defense,that she must have "liked it", ergo he must be innocent,of course the attorney would be roundly pilloried in the press and rightly so..
     
  18. bryras

    bryras Well-Known Member

    Definitely an uncomfortable subject.
     
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  19. bryras

    bryras Well-Known Member

    This makes me sad. This is what is going on in the world today. It's not a happy topic, but it's reality.
     
  20. blunthead

    blunthead Well-Known Member

    I'm pretty sure I have heard of this defense being used. Even if it hasn't been yet it will be tomorrow, because a defense attorney's legal duty is to try to get his/her client acquitted, or the charges lessened, or the verdict most lenient. So, the defense attorney will try to brainwash the jury, if evidence looks bad for the client, which means telling lies so convincingly that a good prosecutor had better be handy.
     

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