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...a lot of our murderers are our best inmates...the crime was truly one of passion, and they have no reason to re-offend....A lot of jobs here you cannot get without a clean record...that is my beef. Some folks have committed one crime and have to spend the rest of their lives paying for it. If you go to jail, is not that paying the price. I would not give a murderer a job or a pedophile but someone who shoplifted five years ago....hell, yes!
...agreed Dog, and nobody here is arguing the disclosure point, just that it shouldn't immediately whack someone from getting a job....depending upon their conviction of course...our state offers some vocational training, but like anywhere else-it's tough to get employers past the stigma of "convict"...I have to disagree on this one. Should felons be automatically discounted from being considered, no. But I want full disclosure from an applicant for a city job. Background checks are not foolproof and a criminal past often does not show on the routine background checks.
...there is a certain contingent that loves being in prison...but most want to get right with the world.....A former coworker of mine who used to be a cop (and before that, Army prison guard) said, and I agree, that convicts have paid their debt to society, once out of prison. Further penalizing them is unfair as well as counterproductive. If we want to ensure that people will remain outside the law, committing criminal acts until they die of old age (or what have you), I could not conceive of a better way than making it impossible for them to get jobs doing legal things. They have to eat, just like everyone else.
It would be interesting to know how many repeat offenders tried to "go straight" but ran into roadblocks doing so and ended up back behind bars.
...there is a certain contingent that loves being in prison...but most want to get right with the world.....
You are right on.A former coworker of mine who used to be a cop (and before that, Army prison guard) said, and I agree, that convicts have paid their debt to society, once out of prison. Further penalizing them is unfair as well as counterproductive. If we want to ensure that people will remain outside the law, committing criminal acts until they die of old age (or what have you), I could not conceive of a better way than making it impossible for them to get jobs doing legal things. They have to eat, just like everyone else.
It would be interesting to know how many repeat offenders tried to "go straight" but ran into roadblocks doing so and ended up back behind bars.
I have to disagree on this one. Should felons be automatically discounted from being considered, no. But I want full disclosure from an applicant for a city job. Background checks are not foolproof and a criminal past often does not show on the routine background checks.