Joe Hill--The Lady and the Shark Theory

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TrueGeneration

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Last night on Twitter, Joe Hill posted a brilliant theory he came up with that involves a murder that happened in the summer of 1974 in Massachusetts and the victim possibly being connected to the movie Jaws.

Here's the post:

Joe Hill's Thrills — The Lady & The Shark

In short: Joe first talks about the cold case: A 13-year-old girl finds a woman's decomposed body in the dunes outside of Provincetown, MA. The body can't even be identified because how badly decomposed the body is. To this day, there's still no name, identity or history about this woman. The killer also hasn't been identified. At the crime scene, there was a blue bandana and Wrangler jeans folded beneath her head. Joe shares a picture of what the woman could have looked like, as he states there have been several attempts or recreations of figuring out the physical appearance of the woman.

Here's what's known:
-She was around 25-49 years old
-She was fit; 145 pounds
-Her hair was auburn or red
-Her hair was in a ponytail, with a holder with gold sparkles in it
-she had expensive dental work

Joe then talks about his love for the movie, Jaws. He shares that one day he finally gets to see his favorite on the big screen, and then it gets interesting: around 54 minutes and 2 seconds into the movie, Joe spots an extra that catches his eye. The woman is standing, her hair is down, looks auburn/brownish, but she's wearing a blue bandana and jeans (not Wranglers, though). Joe asks us: was this extra the unidentified murder victim in Provincetown? Was she The Lady of the Dunes?

The post is a MUST read and what Joe thought up of was absolutely fascinating, intriguing, and yet freaky :) I really hope something comes out of this, like having the case reopened. I couldn't stop thinking about it after reading it. He's now taking it to the "internet" and asking anyway if they were near, around our even on set when Jaws was filmed and what they remember during the summer of 1974. (The scene where in Jaws with the extra was filmed in June, and the body was discovered in July).

I didn't mean this to be super long, sorry! (You can just skip what I wrote and read Joe's post, haha;-D) What do you guys think?

And, well done to Joe!
 

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Very cool! I would be ecstatic if they eventually found her identity based on this.


I don't how the procedures work with how to be an extra on a movie set, but I was thinking do you have to at least sign something--like a contract, maybe--to permit to be on film? Or maybe they didn't even do that back then? I don't know....I'll have to look into the filming of Jaws :)
 

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I don't how the procedures work with how to be an extra on a movie set, but I was thinking do you have to at least sign something--like a contract, maybe--to permit to be on film? Or maybe they didn't even do that back then? I don't know....I'll have to look into the filming of Jaws :)
It makes sense that you'd have to sign some sort of release or something, but if things were chaotic on that day, and humans were involved, then lots my have slipped through the cracks.
 

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It makes sense that you'd have to sign some sort of release or something, but if things were chaotic on that day, and humans were involved, then lots my have slipped through the cracks.

True. They could have just let people walk on set, maybe :/

If the Lady of the Dunes haunts the movie JAWS, that further explains why that movie has haunted me since childhood!!

;-D

It's very creepy! Also, the fact that how this movie is watched by around the world and unbeknownst to people, there maybe, possibly--just for a second--seeing a murder victim right in front of their eyes. So weird! Gives me chills!
 

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Now, at least, there are a lot of 'walk on' extras. As long as you don't talk, I don't think there has to be any contract or agreement. I have a friend who used to do a lot of walk ons in Portland (now she does more talking parts)--I'll ask her what the procedure is :)
 

danie

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I don't how the procedures work with how to be an extra on a movie set, but I was thinking do you have to at least sign something--like a contract, maybe--to permit to be on film? Or maybe they didn't even do that back then? I don't know....I'll have to look into the filming of Jaws :)
I played an extra in the film U.S. Marshals, and we had to sign a contract to get paid. This was in 1997, though, so not sure if it still works this way. Also, like skimom2 said, it makes sense that there may be 'walk-ons' (who don't get paid or sign anything) in films which require huge crowds.

Even though I didn't have a line, I still got paid. There was this one girl who got a line, and I was so jealous. Then, when I saw the movie, her part had been edited out. Interesting side note: if you get a line, you have to join the Screen Actors' Guild, and the membership takes almost all of your pay for being an extra!
 

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I played an extra in the film U.S. Marshals, and we had to sign a contract to get paid. This was in 1997, though, so not sure if it still works this way. Also, like skimom2 said, it makes sense that there may be 'walk-ons' (who don't get paid or sign anything) in films which require huge crowds.

Even though I didn't have a line, I still got paid. There was this one girl who got a line, and I was so jealous. Then, when I saw the movie, her part had been edited out. Interesting side note: if you get a line, you have to join the Screen Actors' Guild, and the membership takes almost all of your pay for being an extra!


That is so cool, danie! Thanks for sharing! Do you mind me asking what scene you were in?
 

danie

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That is so cool, danie! Thanks for sharing! Do you mind me asking what scene you were in?
I played a Kentucky State Trooper, gray uniform, Smoky-the-Bear hat, and fake gun! In the first part of this clip, you can see me right at the start walking with another 'cop' across the scene. Then, when Tommy Lee Jones is giving directions, I'm across the car hood from him. Mostly, you see the back of me and my profile, but it was the most fun to be there and see how it all works. Tommy Lee Jones was very nice, and Robert Downey, Jr. *sigh* :) Oh, yeah, my hair was not blonde then. Hmmmmm. :)
 

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I played a Kentucky State Trooper, gray uniform, Smoky-the-Bear hat, and fake gun! In the first part of this clip, you can see me right at the start walking with another 'cop' across the scene. Then, when Tommy Lee Jones is giving directions, I'm across the car hood from him. Mostly, you see the back of me and my profile, but it was the most fun to be there and see how it all works. Tommy Lee Jones was very nice, and Robert Downey, Jr. *sigh* :) Oh, yeah, my hair was not blonde then. Hmmmmm. :)

Ah, I saw you!! Haha! Thanks for sharing the clip! Oh, I bet! I would love to do that! It must have been so fun getting into costume--and as you said--seeing it how it's all done! (You saw RDJ? Lucky girl ;) )