Kids and Christmas

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skimom2

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Absolutely, but we temper it with teaching from when they're very young that Santa is about giving: when they give, THEY'RE Santa :) We also teach about St. Nicholas (glossing over any mention of death when they're little). My youngest is 8, and I think he probably has suspicions, but he also has great love for giving. We've followed this method with the three older kids, and all have said that the transition from believing in the jolly fat man to believing in the joy of giving was an easy one. We never had the, "Santa is NOT real" issue with any of them, because Santa IS real. Santa is love :)
 

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I do not have children; but if I did, they would not be raised to believe in Santa. Its seems extremely hypocritical to encourage children to believe an obviously modern day false character, and then after several years tell the children that Santa isn’t real, and you have been lying about him for years.

How long are children supposed to believe in Santa? My niece is six and in first grade and still believes in Santa, although I thought at least a few of her first grade peers would have blown the myth by now. I am actually suspicious that she knows Santa isn’t real, and pretends to believe in Santa so she can extort more gifts from people.
 

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We have recently been discussing the topic with my colleagues, one guy who has a 6-year-old daughter says that it's getting complicated when children start asking questions that are very difficult to answer, like why there is more than one Santa, or why Santa is female;-D This guy found a wonderful explanation, he now tells his daughter that Santa is not real, that there is so-called "spirit of Christmas" that can possess any person at Christmas Eve:0: We were shocked by such an explanation, but it's rather cool:0::0:
 

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I do not have children; but if I did, they would not be raised to believe in Santa. Its seems extremely hypocritical to encourage children to believe an obviously modern day false character, and then after several years tell the children that Santa isn’t real, and you have been lying about him for years.

How long are children supposed to believe in Santa? My niece is six and in first grade and still believes in Santa, although I thought at least a few of her first grade peers would have blown the myth by now. I am actually suspicious that she knows Santa isn’t real, and pretends to believe in Santa so she can extort more gifts from people.
...make sure you draw and quarter the Easter Bunny and garrote the Tooth Fairy too...
 

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I do not have children; but if I did, they would not be raised to believe in Santa. Its seems extremely hypocritical to encourage children to believe an obviously modern day false character, and then after several years tell the children that Santa isn’t real, and you have been lying about him for years.

How long are children supposed to believe in Santa? My niece is six and in first grade and still believes in Santa, although I thought at least a few of her first grade peers would have blown the myth by now. I am actually suspicious that she knows Santa isn’t real, and pretends to believe in Santa so she can extort more gifts from people.
I always told my kids, when you don't believe in Santa, you get no Santa gifts. I think they still believe in santa and they are 21 and 25.
 

skimom2

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I always told my kids, when you don't believe in Santa, you get no Santa gifts. I think they still believe in santa and they are 21 and 25.
I recently saw a plaque somewhere that said, "When you stop believing in Santa, you get underwear." :)

We really never had an issue with it, maybe because we never called store Santas, etc. "Santa." They're Santa's helpers :) And the kids become Santa's helpers from the time they're teeny, because we always take names off the Angel trees at our church and schools. The kids pick the names and buy the gifts, and they buy (with my money, of course) gifts for their siblings, too. Plus, we've never said that every gift is from Santa--one special thing is unwrapped & is their Santa gift. They know the rest are from mom & dad, grandparents, siblings, etc.
 

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I recently saw a plaque somewhere that said, "When you stop believing in Santa, you get underwear." :)

We really never had an issue with it, maybe because we never called store Santas, etc. "Santa." They're Santa's helpers :) And the kids become Santa's helpers from the time they're teeny, because we always take names off the Angel trees at our church and schools. The kids pick the names and buy the gifts, and they buy (with my money, of course) gifts for their siblings, too. Plus, we've never said that every gift is from Santa--one special thing is unwrapped & is their Santa gift. They know the rest are from mom & dad, grandparents, siblings, etc.
We did that too. We told our kids that Santa had to have helpers, and all these Santas were just helpers. There were Santa gifts and family gifts.
 

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...make sure you draw and quarter the Easter Bunny and garrote the Tooth Fairy too...

That's not floss by my tooth brush; I don't need kids knocking or yanking their teeth out for quarters and dollars. My niece has been missing her two front teeth for a year and a half: I don't think replacement teeth were growing in or her teeth were ready to fall out. I think she pulled them out forcibly because a classmate of hers got a visit from the tooth fairy and she felt she needed a dollar and a visit from the tooth fairy as well.

If nobody tells her the tooth fairy isn't real, she will probably pull out her second set of teeth for chump change.
 

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That's not floss by my tooth brush; I don't need kids knocking or yanking their teeth out for quarters and dollars. My niece has been missing her two front teeth for a year and a half: I don't think replacement teeth were growing in or her teeth were ready to fall out. I think she pulled them out forcibly because a classmate of hers got a visit from the tooth fairy and she felt she needed a dollar and a visit from the tooth fairy as well.

If nobody tells her the tooth fairy isn't real, she will probably pull out her second set of teeth for chump change.
Your attitude toward young children seems so cynical. :sad:
 
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RandallFlagg19

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Your attitude toward young children seems so cynical. :sad:

I know, but its who I am.

I'm not saying all children shouldn't be encouraged. But parents should be careful of what they encourage their children to believe in.

My niece really has been missing her two front teeth for a year and a half, and I really have come to the conclusion that she may have forced them out in excitement for the tooth fairy (particularly because they "fell" out a few days after a classmate of her told her about his too fairy visit, and her teeth had no prior signs of being ready to come out, I think they may have been a little loose from her thumb sucking and she jostled them the rest of the way out).My niece lost her front teeth at age 5 and one month; and at age six ,and seven month, has just recently grown one in, and it still completely missing one.

As for Santa, if other people want to encourage there children to believe in Santa, fine that's their choice (I don't go around telling children Santa doesn't exist). But my children would just have to to accept getting gifts from real people that really love them.
 
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Absolutely, but we temper it with teaching from when they're very young that Santa is about giving: when they give, THEY'RE Santa :) We also teach about St. Nicholas (glossing over any mention of death when they're little). My youngest is 8, and I think he probably has suspicions, but he also has great love for giving. We've followed this method with the three older kids, and all have said that the transition from believing in the jolly fat man to believing in the joy of giving was an easy one. We never had the, "Santa is NOT real" issue with any of them, because Santa IS real. Santa is love :)
Thats a great attitude. I think the world would be a happier place if more people had your idea.