Lisbeth Returns

[Kurben]

In the case of my collection of Ingmar Bergman films. I will re-visit them multiple times because many of them are visually stunning and subtitles can distract from the photographic aspect.

I have found it to be a kind of thing you learn. I have seen many american, japanese, french and german films equally stunning and somehow you learn to take in the visually photographic aspect of such films while still getting the subtitles. But initially it was difficult i agree. You looked too much at the subtitles so you missed some thing. But then you got the technique of multitasking so you could take in both. At least thats my experience.

Ahhh, Bergman..... Yes i understand you. One thing about him was that he really didnt have many subjects. Familydramas. They are very good but i wish for a little bit more variety.

 

[Tiny]

I read the first one then saw the movies . I like the math, number theory'
in the book , do the next few books have math ?

 

[EMARX]

I have found it to be a kind of thing you learn. I have seen many american, japanese, french and german films equally stunning and somehow you learn to take in the visually photographic aspect of such films while still getting the subtitles. But initially it was difficult i agree. You looked too much at the subtitles so you missed some thing. But then you got the technique of multitasking so you could take in both. At least thats my experience.

Ahhh, Bergman..... Yes i understand you. One thing about him was that he really didnt have many subjects. Familydramas. They are very good but i wish for a little bit more variety.

I agree Kurben. His focus was narrow at times but from the interviews I've seen and read, it seemed those were the stories that came from his imagination. And I believe that all the best art is an unconscious creation for the most part.

 

[EMARX]

There was a review for The Girl in the Spider Web in the NYTimes. Michiko Kakutani had given positive reviews for the Larsson novels, and her opinion of this one was for the most part a good one.

 

[Spideyman]

There was a review for The Girl in the Spider Web in the NYTimes. Michiko Kakutani had given positive reviews for the Larsson novels, and her opinion of this one was for the most part a good one.

I read that review and just might add the book to my TBR list.

 

[Kurben]

There was a review for The Girl in the Spider Web in the NYTimes. Michiko Kakutani had given positive reviews for the Larsson novels, and her opinion of this one was for the most part a good one.

Hopeful....... Here in Sweden the critics has been rather cold so far. And it has, in swedish, an idiotic title. Translated it would be "That that doesn't kill us" . All the american titles is very far from the original titles by the way.

 

[EMARX]

I read that review and just might add the book to my TBR list.

I'm still on the fence. I may wait until you and others pipe in their thoughts before taking the plunge.

 

[EMARX]

I'm waiting for a book called, The Girl Who Stopped Reading Books With The Girl In The Title.

 

[@PM]

Hopeful....... Here in Sweden the critics has been rather cold so far. And it has, in swedish, an idiotic title. Translated it would be "That that doesn't kill us" . All the american titles is very far from the original titles by the way.

"That which doesn't kill us", to be exact.

The Dutch titles mostly follow the Swedish ones, with the third being the odd one out. That's called "Gerechtigheid", which in English is "Justice". To be fair, to me it sounds better than, if I may believe Wikipedia, "The air castle that was blown up". To Dutch it would translate as "Het luchtkasteel dat werd opgeblazen", which translated back to English could also mean "The air castle [or bouncy castle] that was inflated".

 

[Kurben]

"That which doesn't kill us", to be exact.

The Dutch titles mostly follow the Swedish ones, with the third being the odd one out. That's called "Gerechtigheid", which in English is "Justice". To be fair, to me it sounds better than, if I may believe Wikipedia, "The air castle that was blown up". To Dutch it would translate as "Het luchtkasteel dat werd opgeblazen", which translated back to English could also mean "The air castle [or bouncy castle] that was inflated".

Yeah, probably exploded would be a more correct translattion from swedish. It comes from a swedish saying. "air castle" i mean. The swedish term has nothing to do withing blowing air. It means exploded. The english term blown up could be used in two ways but the swedish only in the explode sense.

 

[Kurben]

I'm waiting for a book called, The Girl Who Stopped Reading Books With The Girl In The Title.

Only the second here in sweden has Girl in the title. I understand that it get boring.

 

[@PM]

"The air castle that exploded" or "Het luchtkasteel dat ontplofte" both already sound better to me.

This (look at the pictures) shows the most common definition of an air castle in Dutch, is that the same in Swedish or is there something else to the saying?

 

[Kurben]

"The air castle that exploded" or "Het luchtkasteel dat ontplofte" both already sound better to me.

This (look at the pictures) shows the most common definition of an air castle in Dutch, is that the same in Swedish or is there something else to the saying?

Something different. Luftslott (air castle) is from a swedish saying. To build air castles. The point is that if you do that they will sooner or later fall since they have no foundation. Every swedish reader would get that.

 

[@PM]

I see. That appears to be somewhat different from the English meaning: castles in the air meaning, examples, synonyms - Idioms
The Dutch meaning is similar to that.

The imagery I linked to applies to both, I think. They're like clouds and therefore won't last.

 

[kingricefan]

I'm waiting for a book called, The Girl Who Stopped Reading Books With The Girl In The Title.

There's tons of them out there, too. The Girl With The Pearl Earring is just one.

 

[Kati33]

Been awhile- has anyone else read this book? I finished it a couple months ago- which I guess says something since I didn't get past the first few chapters of the first Bourne book that wasn't written by Ludlum. There were several times in the book that I felt things were done or said that wasn't consistent with how the characters should have acted, but overall not a bad story. I do want to go back to the third book to recheck a few things as I'm pretty sure some major plot lines got changed.

Anyways- thoughts from other readers??

 

[Kurben]

I'm waiting for the pocket edition. The hardback edition is ridicolously expensive.

 

[Kati33]

I'm waiting for the pocket edition. The hardback edition is ridicolously expensive.

I cheated and checked out the Kindle version from the library. I'm interested to hear your thoughts after you get a chance to read it though!

 

[Kurben]

Let me know what you thought of it....

Did not like it. To me Lisbeth seemed to be a different character. And that character was what held the earlier books afloat. So this book drowned because it did not get Lisbeth right. And the parts about the mathgenius were boring. Too much of the book also showed Lagercrantz research without really incorporating it in the story. It shows that he has written factbooks and biographies earlier. Research well done but not so good in incorporating it in the storytelling. Also what had been a focuspoint earlier, millennium was in the background and the supporting characters around Lisbeth and Mikael Blomkvist are not good. Several characters that played an important role earlier are simply not there anymore. And i hear he plans to write two more.... Sigh. I agree with his partner that no more books should be written, that to do so is just to play for money and not caring at all what Stieg Larsson wanted. I even think she called his brother and father for vultures because in her view they are not paying him respect, they are eating his dead body instead of letting it rest in peace. And sadly, she is mostly right.

 

[Moderator]

Did not like it. To me Lisbeth seemed to be a different character. And that character was what held the earlier books afloat. So this book drowned because it did not get Lisbeth right. And the parts about the mathgenius were boring. Too much of the book also showed Lagercrantz research without really incorporating it in the story. It shows that he has written factbooks and biographies earlier. Research well done but not so good in incorporating it in the storytelling. Also what had been a focuspoint earlier, millennium was in the background and the supporting characters around Lisbeth and Mikael Blomkvist are not good. Several characters that played an important role earlier are simply not there anymore. And i hear he plans to write two more.... Sigh. I agree with his partner that no more books should be written, that to do so is just to play for money and not caring at all what Stieg Larsson wanted. I even think she called his brother and father for vultures because in her view they are not paying him respect, they are eating his dead body instead of letting it rest in peace. And sadly, she is mostly right.

That's disappointing. The ones written by Larsson were great stories and getting Lisbeth right would be crucial for any sequels.