Medieval Skeleton

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GNTLGNT

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danie

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FlakeNoir

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I'm telling you right now, if I lived in Europe, I'd be digging up my yard. There is history in every step! I told someone this a few years ago from England and he told me to come dig in his yard. I forgot who that was though.
Just be careful that he's not standing behind you with his hands out when you do...
 

Kurben

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Wow! Have you seen this Kurben?
Yeah, actually i'm nott so surprised. Trees has a tendency to seek out the nourishment they can find. And a dead corpse add nourishment to the soil with the result that trees can often be found on top of graves. In an earlier era people where buried under stone mounds so the roots could not reach the body but with christianity it often was a treecoffin which moulds away rather quickly leaving free access to treeroots. If this was a single grave or just a part of a gravefield far to early to say but he certainly looks placed, that is buried, in the proper midieval position which makes me doubt a battlefield thoery. The first signs points towards a violent death but that is not unusual. England-ireland was rather restless during the time.
 

danie

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Yeah, actually i'm nott so surprised. Trees has a tendency to seek out the nourishment they can find. And a dead corpse add nourishment to the soil with the result that trees can often be found on top of graves. In an earlier era people where buried under stone mounds so the roots could not reach the body but with christianity it often was a treecoffin which moulds away rather quickly leaving free access to treeroots. If this was a single grave or just a part of a gravefield far to early to say but he certainly looks placed, that is buried, in the proper midieval position which makes me doubt a battlefield thoery. The first signs points towards a violent death but that is not unusual. England-ireland was rather restless during the time.
You are so smart. :)
 

Kurben

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What I don’t understand is how the bones survived. It doesn’t seem possible with the climate and soil there and especially being located so shallow.
That is not strange at all. These bones only about 900 years old. Thats nothing. We have been finding whole skeletons (well almost whole) that is 4000-5000 years old. If its undisturbed bones remain a long time.
 

Kurben

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I once dug up a midieval cemetary in Iceland. I've never dug up so many graves in so short a time. They were about the same age and older and younger too. At least 100 graves graves that i dug up, photoed, drawed, measured and collected.
 

DiO'Bolic

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That is not strange at all. These bones only about 900 years old. Thats nothing. We have been finding whole skeletons (well almost whole) that is 4000-5000 years old. If its undisturbed bones remain a long time.
But you'd think the root system of a growing tree would have disturbed them quite a bit. Is it common to find whole skeletons so shallow in such an active ecosystem?
 

Kurben

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But you'd think the root system of a growing tree would have disturbed them quite a bit. Is it common to find whole skeletons so shallow in such an active ecosystem?
Not so shallow. Proper burials are usually deeper but when graveyards started to fill up you just put one grave on top of the other so the toplayer could be rather shallow. And with undisturped i meant still covered by soil. That the original position was disturped does not really influence how well it is preserved. But if it had been exposed to air, rain, Wildlife gnawing at it and so on it would have been gone shortly. Shallow graves usually are found by animals like dogs or some kind of weasel animal. In that case they would have been in trouble. It is quite possibly that the tree protected the body from that kind of interference.