New York banning e-cigs...............

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  1. Shasta
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    Shasta On his shell he holds the earth.

    It appears to me that the only places that have denied them flat out have done so because they have not been approved by the FDA. Does that really not seem reasonable to you?

    Other than that it's just illegal to sell them to minors or illegal to use them in places you can't smoke.

    What I really don't understand is the right wing who keeps yelling that the states should decide. Well, they are. And a lot of states that laws against these are solid red. Arkansas, anyone? Utah? Tennessee?
  2. Neesy
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    Neesy #1 fan (Annie Wilkes cousin) 1st cousin Mom's side

    Apparently it seems to be allowed here in Winnipeg - they even gather in groups for "Vape" parties (party on Dudes!) dunno.gif

    A smokers' revolution: on the vapour trail - Winnipeg Free Press
  3. Shasta
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    Shasta On his shell he holds the earth.

    No comments on this, huh? Interesting.
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  4. Mia Deschain
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    Mia Deschain Well-Known Member

    whats a nanny law?
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  5. Neesy
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    Neesy #1 fan (Annie Wilkes cousin) 1st cousin Mom's side

    It means that Nannys can't vape in front of the kids, but they can serve them bacon :m_pan: (Just kidding - see below for example of what nanny laws are)

    Nanny state - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  6. Mia Deschain
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    Mia Deschain Well-Known Member

    careful... give the government information like this and they are going to ban above listed foods. The only reason the government is going as far as they have is because we are allowing it.
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  8. Shasta
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    Shasta On his shell he holds the earth.

    Nanny state is a term of British origin (and primary use) that conveys a view that a government or its policies are overprotective or interfering unduly with personal choice.[1] The term "nanny state" likens government to the role that a nanny has in child rearing. An early usage of the term comes from Conservative British MP Iain Macleod who referred to "what I like to call the nanny state" in his column "Quoodle" in the December 3, 1965, edition of The Spectator.[2] It is defined by Dictionary.com as "a government perceived as authoritarian, interfering, or overprotective" and has also come to be associated with intrusive practices of having the government "baby" the populace by being in charge, in control of, and even financing all of its needs. Some governance claimed to represent a nanny state are those that emerge from application of public health, risk management of health and safety policies.

    Nanny state - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Basically a law that people don't like they often call a "nanny law" because they think people are trying to control their behavior and they can do what they want because they are red-blooded Americans. Therefore, we should be able to cheat and rob and stab people.
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  9. Mia Deschain
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    Mia Deschain Well-Known Member

    I have quit smoking using the e cig. I started with a vapor stick that was slightly larger than my actual cig., got used to the flavors and not having the actual cigarette taste in my mouth. then moved on to a larger battery. i found myself reaching for the stick less and less. then i got sick. i have not wanted a cigarette the whole time. No cravings, nothing. the hand to mouth motion is satisfied by cough drops and mints. I have many friends who have quit also using e cigs. They breathe and feel better.
  10. DiO'Bolic
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    DiO'Bolic Simply Stated

    Approved by the FDA for what? And I don’t think it illegal nationwide to use them in places you can’t smoke. Also, the "right wing" in general accepts the law if they are implemented in a state.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orz5naQBl-U

    Haven’t looked at this thread in a bit. Perhaps you should have "nudged" me. :)
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  11. Shasta
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    Shasta On his shell he holds the earth.

    For inhaling into your lungs.

    I didn't say it was illegal nationwide. Your link shows that it's illegal in certain states.

    So if the right wing accepts the law if they are implemented in a state, why on earth are you complaining?

    And I wasn't talking to you in particular. Just to all of the people who condemned the laws and then didn't respond to valid questions from the opposition, if you will.
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  12. Neesy
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    Neesy #1 fan (Annie Wilkes cousin) 1st cousin Mom's side

    Maybe it was Moose and Squirrel?



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  13. DiO'Bolic
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    DiO'Bolic Simply Stated

    Would the FDA necessarily need to get involved with that? I know they would if the claims on the tin indicated it was a cure to stop smoking, which they do not.

    Apologies, thought you were.
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  14. Shasta
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    Shasta On his shell he holds the earth.

    No idea. I was just repeating what your article said.
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  15. fushingfeef
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    fushingfeef Uber-in-waiting

    So let me get this straight, little tiny vapor puff sticks are bad, but big old diesel delivery trucks that belch out black stuff into the air are fine?
    :hmm:
  16. ghost19
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    ghost19 .....Damn Zombies.....

    Yes they are..because they deliver bacon and chocolate...:)
  17. Neesy
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    Neesy #1 fan (Annie Wilkes cousin) 1st cousin Mom's side

    and more E-cigs!
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    FlakeNoir Beta/Moderator Moderator

    :laugh:
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  19. Shasta
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    Shasta On his shell he holds the earth.

    This is a very strange statement! The people who don't like one tend to not like the other!
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  20. Out of Order
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    Out of Order Grating Cheese

    On our way to Delaware to visit the folks over Christmas we were on the Cross-Bronx just before the George Washington Bridge. There was a building, apartments I think, belching the most hideous black smoke one can imagine into the air. A lot of it - the traffic was heavy so we had plenty of time to observe. I guess that incinerators are still in use in some buildings?
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