NY prison break comparisons?

[Checkman]

When I worked for the military police back in the 90s, it was a real eye opener for me - I think you just see so much sordid stuff that after a while you do become a bit jaded.

p.s. I was just the admin. clerk, not an MP!

Police work is police work whether it be in the military or out in the civilian world. I try telling younger officers who want to go to more prestigious departments that the job is the same no matter where you're at. The houses and the occupants still smell the same and a dead body is still a dead body. In some cases the increase in pay is worth it if you don't mind starting all over again. I'm 47 and a fifteen year officer with my agency. I'm starting to have a few health issues - as we all do as we get older. My agency is aware of that and is willing to work with us relatively older officers which seems to be true of many. Besides I don't have the patience to be starting all over and playing the games that new officers have to play. I'm established with my agency and (relatively) secure in my position. As long as I don't have a brain lock and start acting like a damn fool. But I understand the appeal of wanting to work for a more prestigious department. It can be very satisfying to the ego.

 

[blunthead]

Imagining that bleak existence is what is supposed to prevent people from doing the horrible things which lead to it.

I won't pretend to understand why some people are born psychotic or others become so (if, in fact, they do), we're just going to have to accept the fact that bad people exist and do the best we can to protect ourselves from them and them from themselves (if and when we can).

The far more troubling aspect of this case was how much help these two appear to have had from the very people charged (and paid) to protect us from them.

If you put me in prison, I will try to escape. You should expect that.

If you give me authority and responsibility over prisoners. I will see to it that they do not escape. You should expect that, too.

Sadly . . . not everyone is me.

Well said. Civilized societies punish with actual justice, a word not in my opinion very subject to opinion and certainly not defined as less-than-civilized societies apparently often do. Punishment equals deterrent as well as protection for society against dangers. When a society sees justice done, however it defines it, a fundamental societal need is met. What is "cruel and unusual" must be ruled out, of course.

I pray never to find myself put away at all, but if I'm guilty as charged, whether by intention or not, I would not try to escape since I disagree with the philosophy that the way out of a hole is by continuing to dig. I believe Providence would retard my success. If I'm innocent, however, I would at least consider escape, depending on deterrents in place and the imposed risks, believing that I owe Justice at least an attempt.

 

[blunthead]

...I am a Registered Nurse in a Medium Security State Correctional facility, comprising in excess of 2,500 inmates and around 300 or so employees(which are split amongst three shifts)...it is an all male population, and given that I am heterosexual-I find no physical attraction to any of the inmates...however, if I were at a women's prison-I might not be so lucky...inmates of either gender OR persuasion are master manipulators for the most part-preying on those that are weak in character and emotion...they study us for hours and weeks on end...listening to and picking apart any snippet of information they can overhear and plying it to their advantage...other staff are attracted by the high risk/high reward of smuggling in contraband-be it tobacco, drugs, phones etc....for example-one former employee at my prison was let go several years ago for brining in cigarette tobacco...he was allowed to resign because such tobacco is not illegal on the street-just in the Correctional facilities...but before he left he had made several thousand dollars in just a couple of weeks being a "mule"...doesn't matter the security level, it's a constant game...and yes, we have to interact it's part of our job-but there are appropriate and inappropriate interactions...

A job requiring interaction with dangerous elements of society also requires an highly ethical worker. Dams aren't built from porous stones. I'll bet that such employees tend to encourage strength within their ranks and know which ones are questionable.

...indeed...your mentality changes, as well as your personality...I have become much less tolerant of many things and my compassion has nearly vanished....

I won't presume anything about you, GNT, but I wonder if your actual compassion hasn't been honed, not diminished. My employment in a certain facility forced me to "grow a thick skin", but that was a good, needed thing to happen to me as well as being otherwise necessary for coping on the job.

 

[GNTLGNT]

A job requiring interaction with dangerous elements of society also requires an highly ethical worker. Dams aren't built from porous stones. I'll bet that such employees tend to encourage strength within their ranks and know which ones are questionable.

I won't presume anything about you, GNT, but I wonder if your actual compassion hasn't been honed, not diminished. My employment in a certain facility forced me to "grow a thick skin", but that was a good, needed thing to happen to me as well as being otherwise necessary for coping on the job.

...ethics are a must, and the compassion is still there-but "honed" might be a good descriptive....

 

[GNTLGNT]

I've had a similar experience since I became a cop. It's taken some real effort not to become a total cynic. I was warned about this many years ago, but didn't really believe it would happen to me. However I prefer being out in the field rather than locked up with them. But it takes all types. I know several county jail deputies and a few state corrections officers who think I'm crazy for being on patrol. It's an overused word but we really are part of a team.

...I feel ya....people don't "get" how I can go behind the wire everyday...it requires a certain mindset, just like road patrol...

 

[lowman]

Those kinds of comparisons might tend to glorify these guys. They were both cold-blooded murderers. It's fortunate this has been resolved without anyone else getting harmed. I read the surviving prisoner could be subject to 23 hours of solitary confinement every day for the forseeable future. Imagine that bleak existence.

I am a corrections officer at a max security prison i can tell you its no fun for anybody, but now we call it segregation its considered jail inside of prison.

 

[lowman]

...I am a Registered Nurse in a Medium Security State Correctional facility, comprising in excess of 2,500 inmates and around 300 or so employees(which are split amongst three shifts)...it is an all male population, and given that I am heterosexual-I find no physical attraction to any of the inmates...however, if I were at a women's prison-I might not be so lucky...inmates of either gender OR persuasion are master manipulators for the most part-preying on those that are weak in character and emotion...they study us for hours and weeks on end...listening to and picking apart any snippet of information they can overhear and plying it to their advantage...other staff are attracted by the high risk/high reward of smuggling in contraband-be it tobacco, drugs, phones etc....for example-one former employee at my prison was let go several years ago for brining in cigarette tobacco...he was allowed to resign because such tobacco is not illegal on the street-just in the Correctional facilities...but before he left he had made several thousand dollars in just a couple of weeks being a "mule"...doesn't matter the security level, it's a constant game...and yes, we have to interact it's part of our job-but there are appropriate and inappropriate interactions...

Bringing in tobacco or cell phones anything like that or even a relationship with an inmate is now a felony in my state which im all for.

 

[GNTLGNT]

Bringing in tobacco or cell phones anything like that or even a relationship with an inmate is now a felony in my state which im all for.

...hear, hear!!!...that's the way it should be...you like them well enough to bring contraband in-then by all means join them!...

 

[CoriSCapnSkip]

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