occassional Stephen King reader

[TheMelancholicAlcoholic]

I got introduced to Stephen KIng by one book containing four novellas, including The Long Walk and the one about the boy in the classroom with a gun. Especially The Long Walk gripped me. I have a copy of Pet Sematary lying around somewhere, never got to it, never will.
22-11-63 is the first KIng novel i read in a long time, and on a small Android phone at that, but i've seen a lot of his movies.

 

[Moderator]

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[Spideyman]

Hi and welcome

 

[blunthead]

Welcome to the Board! Keep posting!

 

[TheMelancholicAlcoholic]

Thank you all 3!


This is my review/criticism of 22-11-63 which i'm gonna park here until i can make my own thread about it. It was a shock to me to see such a plot hole in a King novel, so there. To date, the long walk is the best thing ever written by him, to me, it's deceptively simple structured, realistically dystopian, with a not-open end/open end.

The GIGANTIC PLOTHOLE IN 22-11-63 by KIng:
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The big big plothole is of course the reset button. To know for sure if Oswald was the killer, he could have killed Oswald in 1958, go back to 2011 to see if Kennedy survived or not. If he had not surivived, Oswald would not have been the killer, and he would have had to go back to 1958 which would have reset Oswald into life again, might even have prevented him from becoming a patsy, saved Oswalds life. And then he would have had to wait for the real killers to show up. Preventing the attack would have been easy with a modern fake IED, (to spook the Secret Service) that would explode BEFORE Dealy Plaza, at a point where the motor cade could still turn.
But sure, then we wouldn't have a 800 page novel, so I guess that's motivation to ignore the plothole right there.

This doesn't get mentioned a lot by reviewers, only some boards discuss this like the Guardian and Reddit.

 

[Moderator]

Thank you both!
This is my review/criticism of 22-11-63 which i;m gonna park here until i can make my own thread about it. It was a shock to me to see such a plot hole in a King novel, so there.

The GIGANTIC PLOTHOLE IN 22-11-63 by KIng:
SPOILER ALERT
SPOILER ALERT

SPOILER ALERT

SPOILER ALERT

SPOILER ALERT

The big big plothole is of course the reset button. To know for sure if Oswald was the killer, he could have killed Oswald in 1958, go back to 2011 to see if Kennedy survived or not. If he had not surivived, Oswald would not have been the killer, and he would have had to go back to 1958 which would have reset Oswald into life again, might even have prevented him from becoming a patsy, saved Oswalds life. And then he would have had to wait for the real killers to show up. Preventing the attack would have been easy with a modern fake IED, (to spook the Secret Service) that would explode BEFORE Dealy Plaza, at a point where the motor cade could still turn.
But sure, then we wouldn't have a 800 page novel, so I guess that's motivation to ignore the plothole right there.

Now that you've had your first post approved, you can start a new thread but I would have to move this for you. As a newbie, you will be moderated until you have reached a post count of 100 and been a member for 10 days. We do that for all new members to help keep spammers off the site.

 

[Aericanwizard]

Thank you all 3!


This is my review/criticism of 22-11-63 which i'm gonna park here until i can make my own thread about it. It was a shock to me to see such a plot hole in a King novel, so there. To date, the long walk is the best thing ever written by him, to me, it's deceptively simple structured, realistically dystopian, with a not-open end/open end.

The GIGANTIC PLOTHOLE IN 22-11-63 by KIng:
SPOILER ALERT
SPOILER ALERT

SPOILER ALERT

SPOILER ALERT

SPOILER ALERT

The big big plothole is of course the reset button. To know for sure if Oswald was the killer, he could have killed Oswald in 1958, go back to 2011 to see if Kennedy survived or not. If he had not surivived, Oswald would not have been the killer, and he would have had to go back to 1958 which would have reset Oswald into life again, might even have prevented him from becoming a patsy, saved Oswalds life. And then he would have had to wait for the real killers to show up. Preventing the attack would have been easy with a modern fake IED, (to spook the Secret Service) that would explode BEFORE Dealy Plaza, at a point where the motor cade could still turn.
But sure, then we wouldn't have a 800 page novel, so I guess that's motivation to ignore the plothole right there.

This doesn't get mentioned a lot by reviewers, only some boards discuss this like the Guardian and Reddit.

It's noted in the book that Jake couldn't kill Oswald outright until he knew he was acting on his own. If he had killed Oswald early, and he was part of a group, they could have just used another killer. He also couldn't change history too much before the event, because at least now, he knew where / when the assassination would take place. If he takes out Dealy Plaza, and there was a conspiracy, then he would have had no chance to stop it.

Welcome to the board! I like the Long Walk, too!

 

[80sFan]

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[prufrock21]

Welcome. I occasionally read Stephen King everyday.

 

[doowopgirl]

Now that you've had your first post approved, you can start a new thread but I would have to move this for you. As a newbie, you will be moderated until you have reached a post count of 100 and been a member for 10 days. We do that for all new members to help keep spammers off the site.

Or Trolls?

 

[doowopgirl]

Welcome. Try being a more that occasional reader, you'll be pleasantly surprised.

 

[Moderator]

Or Trolls?

Those, too.

 

[Debbie913]

Welcome to the SKMB. The Long Walk is among my favorites as well, but Mr. King has a wide variety of books that appeal to a wide variety of people. Try some more! I doubt you'll be totally disappointed in any of them.

 

[CrimsonKingAH]

Hi

 

[GNTLGNT]

...I read King like I eat cookies...just occasionally.....WHAT???...why in the hell is everybody laughing????...

 

[CrimsonKingAH]

 

[king family fan]

 

[TheMelancholicAlcoholic]

Now that you've had your first post approved, you can start a new thread but I would have to move this for you. As a newbie, you will be moderated until you have reached a post count of 100 and been a member for 10 days. We do that for all new members to help keep spammers off the site.

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that's creepy, dude.

 

[GNTLGNT]

that's creepy, dude.

...and dude, is a dudette.....

 

[blunthead]

Now that you've had your first post approved, you can start a new thread but I would have to move this for you. As a newbie, you will be moderated until you have reached a post count of 100 and been a member for 10 days. We do that for all new members to help keep spammers off the site.