R.L. Stine

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Rrty

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I'm sure many people here have read some of R.L. Stine's material. I was curious if anyone knew the answer to this: does he use ghostwriters? Is it possible that he was able to write all that stuff? I know his books are short for the most part, but believe it or not, writing many short books is actually more numbing than writing a few long books.

This leads to a question: what if King pulled a Patterson/Clancy and started to use co-authors and created several book series? Would you dislike that, or would it be interesting to see King get as many of his ideas/concepts out to the marketplace as he could?
 

Walter Oobleck

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Kind of like Ma Bell, hey? Bunch of little Ma Bells running around now? Like it? If I were true to form I'd say no. But it does make one wonder about the process...say for Patterson and whom-some-ever...there must be oodles of noodles, multi-colored poodles happy to wag a tale. What does that say about the process? The whole shebang. Seems like the concrete block and the anonymous note thrown through a publisher's window is a safe bet.
 
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I'm sure many people here have read some of R.L. Stine's material. I was curious if anyone knew the answer to this: does he use ghostwriters? Is it possible that he was able to write all that stuff? I know his books are short for the most part, but believe it or not, writing many short books is actually more numbing than writing a few long books.

This leads to a question: what if King pulled a Patterson/Clancy and started to use co-authors and created several book series? Would you dislike that, or would it be interesting to see King get as many of his ideas/concepts out to the marketplace as he could?

I would HATE that. Those stories that I have read that are produced like this have ranged from bland to purely awful. Nope, I'll take my King straight up, even if it takes longer to get a book.
 

carrie's younger brother

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The only author/collaborator I would like to see SK do a series with is his son, Joe
Hill. That would be amazing! Other than Joe, no way.

I doubt SK would ever do what James Patterson, et al do, as SK is serious about his scraft, while those other authors are only interested in their "brand." There's a big difference.
 

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Is that the guy who did GooseBumps lol?

Yeah, our kids were hooked on those, and I think we still have most or all of them. I have no idea if he used a ghostwriter.

I tried to read a "Clancy" novel, Rainbox Six (it did not have to do with a sextuplet group advancing gay rights), and I gave up, I dunno, 80(?) pages in. I thought it was crap. I read later that it wasn't actually written by him.

But I still read Garfield. That doesn't take as much attention, and I don't pay for it.
 

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The only author/collaborator I would like to see SK do a series with is his son, Joe
Hill. That would be amazing! Other than Joe, no way.

I doubt SK would ever do what James Patterson, et al do, as SK is serious about his scraft, while those other authors are only interested in their "brand." There's a big difference.


Spot on . . .and there is indeed a big difference.

I've read some of Patterson's tales but I can't any more . . .just chapters . . .no funk . . .I need funk.
 

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James Frey and/or his sweatshop wrote (Pen Names: Pittacus Lore) the teensquish movie "I am Number Four." (Which I liked)

But here he is, professing that he is actually number two.

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Holy sausagefingers, Buttman!
 
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Rrty

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Thanks for all the interesting replies.

I hear what people are saying. I tend to agree, it is weird when other people take over for a writer. Yet, at the same time, a book is a book no matter who writes it. The novelization for "Star Wars," as an example, was actually not written by George Lucas, even though he was credited as the author...nonetheless, that is a great novelization. It helps that it turns out that Alan Dean Foster wrote it, a man who is an accomplished scribe.

I'm going to perhaps almost assume, even though just about every source -- save for a few blogs which seem to report this as fact -- seems to say otherwise, that a lot of R.L. Stine's stuff was ghostwritten. It just doesn't seem possible that someone could have produced all those books during the timeframe they were released. At the very least he must have had an assistant do the polish drafts. I will point out that there was an author who indicated that he wrote, I believe, a Fear Street book, and there was a brief series where I believe co-authors were credited (I just looked up the author who mentioned his ghostwriting gig, it's Tom Perrotta who wrote "Election"; you can look up the source, it's an Entertainment Weekly item written by Missy Schwartz, dated October 12, 2007). I should mention that R.L. Stine does say he has produced every word. And I'm sure a lot of his earlier works were in fact done by him alone, including many of the Goosebumps titles (by the way, I tried to write a Goosebumps-type book once, but found the one-sentence paragraph structure very daunting).

I'm sort of in love with the concept of starting a series and then having others take over. I would love to be able to simply sketch out an idea on paper and then have it packaged by someone else, sit back and collect the royalties. Someone like Patterson must have a field day; I'm sure he still writes some of his own books, but the co-authored ones must really pad his income, it's like splitting yourself into additional productive pieces. And I'm sure it's not unlike Hollywood TV shows, where someone creates a show and then eventually leaves the job: someone else takes over as a showrunner, with a group of writers, while the creator still derives plenty of residuals. Like Carrie's Younger Brother said, it's the development of a brand, a funding of a start-up to some degree.

Patterson says he writes 80-page outlines to the books the co-writers write (if I recall correctly). I'm not sure I believe that, or if they are 80 pages, they must be short pages (I would hate to be the hired writer stuck with an 80-page treatment). If I were Patterson, I would just write a three-page outline, hand it off, let the co-writer run free, and go get some pizza and enjoy the rest of the day.
 
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I watch his movies more than read his books. The only reason I became interested in him is that my daughter liked reading Goose Bumps when she was 11 and I had to know what she was reading, because I ended up being more like my mom than I wanted to be. I wanted to make sure she wasn't going to read something she couldn't handle. After all, she genuinely cried when we read her 101 Dalmatians. That book upset her so much that I started worrying about what she read.

I watch The Nightmare Room. It's more interesting than Goose Bumps but is still geared more towards kids than adults.
 
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I read several R. L. Stine books as a kid, mostly from the Fear Street series. What made them so interesting were the covers, I felt I had to know what was going on. Other than that, I did not find any of the stories very compelling. There was a shock value in the horror, but the impression they left did not last long. It seemed like he used a lot of typical story beats commonly used in fiction. I would not be surprised if he used a ghost writer.

As for King, I would be shocked if he used a ghost writer. I highly doubt he used one to write 11/22/63. It had a singular focus and it felt like it came from one mind because the story was so focused.
 
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