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KingAHolic

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Why are people willing to go help in a crisis like 9/11 or New Orleans etc., or, for the church, make food, etc. but, when it comes to being there for people with emotional or even physical needs (talking to them, visiting them, calling them... really giving of themselves, their time) they are absent? I see this in the church, if there is a "rally cry" for a cause everyone comes running, but, when people are sick or down and out, no one takes the time independently/individually (or very very few) to do anything.
 

skimom2

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Why are people willing to go help in a crisis like 9/11 or New Orleans etc., or, for the church, make food, etc. but, when it comes to being there for people with emotional or even physical needs (talking to them, visiting them, calling them... really giving of themselves, their time) they are absent? I see this in the church, if there is a "rally cry" for a cause everyone comes running, but, when people are sick or down and out, no one takes the time independently/individually (or very very few) to do anything.

Because long-distance 'caring' is easier than actually helping an individual. People are generally pretty self-directed. Wish it was different, but there it is. (don't hit me with hard questions when I first wake up--you get hard truths :p)
 

KingAHolic

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Because long-distance 'caring' is easier than actually helping an individual. People are generally pretty self-directed. Wish it was different, but there it is. (don't hit me with hard questions when I first wake up--you get hard truths :p)

Also, I think people view it more "fun" when it's a group helping, vs. them doing it on their own independently....
 

morgan

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Why are people willing to go help in a crisis like 9/11 or New Orleans etc., or, for the church, make food, etc. but, when it comes to being there for people with emotional or even physical needs (talking to them, visiting them, calling them... really giving of themselves, their time) they are absent? I see this in the church, if there is a "rally cry" for a cause everyone comes running, but, when people are sick or down and out, no one takes the time independently/individually (or very very few) to do anything.
I have been thinking about this very subject a lot. My brother-in-law was found dead on Sunday - he committed suicide. He was schizophrenic and didn't consistently stay on medication. A few months ago his family tried to get him into the state psychiatric hospital, but were denied. He sought out so many churches over the last few years, just trying to find "spiritual" help to ease his troubled mind, I suppose. Was he turned away or ignored when he reached out to the clergy and congregation? I don't know. It's all very sad.
 

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I have been thinking about this very subject a lot. My brother-in-law was found dead on Sunday - he committed suicide. He was schizophrenic and didn't consistently stay on medication. A few months ago his family tried to get him into the state psychiatric hospital, but were denied. He sought out so many churches over the last few years, just trying to find "spiritual" help to ease his troubled mind, I suppose. Was he turned away or ignored when he reached out to the clergy and congregation? I don't know. It's all very sad.
so sorry Morgan. This is so sad.
 

skimom2

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I have been thinking about this very subject a lot. My brother-in-law was found dead on Sunday - he committed suicide. He was schizophrenic and didn't consistently stay on medication. A few months ago his family tried to get him into the state psychiatric hospital, but were denied. He sought out so many churches over the last few years, just trying to find "spiritual" help to ease his troubled mind, I suppose. Was he turned away or ignored when he reached out to the clergy and congregation? I don't know. It's all very sad.
Morgan, I'm so sorry. It may have been that people didn't know how to handle him, or he might have found great people but the disease was ultimately too much... no way of knowing. I do know what it's like to see someone really want help and be unable to find it--my brother checked himself in for help with his depression and addictions so many times. They could do emergency 3 day holds, but ultimately he made too much money for state care and not enough for private. I'm holding you in my heart and my prayers tonight (and always).
 

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I have been thinking about this very subject a lot. My brother-in-law was found dead on Sunday - he committed suicide. He was schizophrenic and didn't consistently stay on medication. A few months ago his family tried to get him into the state psychiatric hospital, but were denied. He sought out so many churches over the last few years, just trying to find "spiritual" help to ease his troubled mind, I suppose. Was he turned away or ignored when he reached out to the clergy and congregation? I don't know. It's all very sad.
((Morgan))
 

KingAHolic

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I have been thinking about this very subject a lot. My brother-in-law was found dead on Sunday - he committed suicide. He was schizophrenic and didn't consistently stay on medication. A few months ago his family tried to get him into the state psychiatric hospital, but were denied. He sought out so many churches over the last few years, just trying to find "spiritual" help to ease his troubled mind, I suppose. Was he turned away or ignored when he reached out to the clergy and congregation? I don't know. It's all very sad.
I agree. This is tragic should never happen. I am so sorry for your loss
 

Debbie913

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I have been thinking about this very subject a lot. My brother-in-law was found dead on Sunday - he committed suicide. He was schizophrenic and didn't consistently stay on medication. A few months ago his family tried to get him into the state psychiatric hospital, but were denied. He sought out so many churches over the last few years, just trying to find "spiritual" help to ease his troubled mind, I suppose. Was he turned away or ignored when he reached out to the clergy and congregation? I don't know. It's all very sad.

(((morgan and family))) I am so sorry for your loss.
 

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I have been thinking about this very subject a lot. My brother-in-law was found dead on Sunday - he committed suicide. He was schizophrenic and didn't consistently stay on medication. A few months ago his family tried to get him into the state psychiatric hospital, but were denied. He sought out so many churches over the last few years, just trying to find "spiritual" help to ease his troubled mind, I suppose. Was he turned away or ignored when he reached out to the clergy and congregation? I don't know. It's all very sad.
I hope you're doing better today, girl. xox (((Morgan)))
 

blunthead

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Why are people willing to go help in a crisis like 9/11 or New Orleans etc., or, for the church, make food, etc. but, when it comes to being there for people with emotional or even physical needs (talking to them, visiting them, calling them... really giving of themselves, their time) they are absent? I see this in the church, if there is a "rally cry" for a cause everyone comes running, but, when people are sick or down and out, no one takes the time independently/individually (or very very few) to do anything.
I'm sure that many Christian churches are guilty of too much of this but there are a lot of them which aren't. Conditions such as schizophrenia are very difficult to treat medically under the best of circumstances.

(((((morgan and family)))))
 
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