Ray Rice Cut By Ravens - Domestic Violence.

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not_nadine

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She instagramed.

"I woke up this morning feeling like I had a horrible nightmare, feeling like I'm mourning the death of my closest friend. But to have to accept the fact that it's reality is a nightmare in itself. No one knows the pain that the media & unwanted options from the public has caused my family. To make us relive a moment in our lives that we regret every day is a horrible thing. To take something away from the man I love that he has worked his ass of for all his life just to gain ratings is horrific. THIS IS OUR LIFE! What don't you all get. If your intentions were to hurt us, embarrass us, make us feel alone, take all happiness away, you've succeeded on so many levels. Just know we will continue to grow & show the world what real love is! Ravensnation we love you!"
 

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She instagramed.

"I woke up this morning feeling like I had a horrible nightmare, feeling like I'm mourning the death of my closest friend. But to have to accept the fact that it's reality is a nightmare in itself. No one knows the pain that the media & unwanted options from the public has caused my family. To make us relive a moment in our lives that we regret every day is a horrible thing. To take something away from the man I love that he has worked his ass of for all his life just to gain ratings is horrific. THIS IS OUR LIFE! What don't you all get. If your intentions were to hurt us, embarrass us, make us feel alone, take all happiness away, you've succeeded on so many levels. Just know we will continue to grow & show the world what real love is! Ravensnation we love you!"


I wonder how she would feel about him if it had been her child that was punched, struck and dragged. It may have been "Our Life" but he made a public spectacle of himself in a public place. And he is a public figure and role model to many.
 

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Okay, I just spoke to an adult man. He has never in his life been in a physical fight of any kind ever. He is the most nonviolent person I know. But I asked him about hitting a woman in general. (For the record, we did not speak to the specifics of the video other than he agreed that knocking out ANYONE was bad obviously. He feels no one should hit anyone so hard they are knocked out, but he says not to put a gender label on that.)

He did say, if a woman meant to do him bodily harm and was coming at him and she hit him, he would hit her back to defend himself. He said, just because a woman is a woman doesn't mean they can't really hurt someone. His comment was he would never ever throw the first punch, but if a woman were attacking him violently, he said Equal Rights, Equal Fights.

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Okay, I just spoke to an adult man. He has never in his life been in a physical fight of any kind ever. He is the most nonviolent person I know. But I asked him about hitting a woman in general. (For the record, we did not speak to the specifics of the video other than he agreed that knocking out ANYONE was bad obviously. He feels no one should hit anyone so hard they are knocked out, but he says not to put a gender label on that.)

He did say, if a woman meant to do him bodily harm and was coming at him and she hit him, he would hit her back to defend himself. He said, just because a woman is a woman doesn't mean they can't really hurt someone. His comment was he would never ever throw the first punch, but if a woman were attacking him violently, he said Equal Rights, Equal Fights.

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I would defend myself but never ever throw a punch with one exception. If the woman was somehow physically threatening my family and there was absolutely no other way to go to keep my family safe. That make sense?
 

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She instagramed.

"I woke up this morning feeling like I had a horrible nightmare, feeling like I'm mourning the death of my closest friend. But to have to accept the fact that it's reality is a nightmare in itself. No one knows the pain that the media & unwanted options from the public has caused my family. To make us relive a moment in our lives that we regret every day is a horrible thing. To take something away from the man I love that he has worked his ass of for all his life just to gain ratings is horrific. THIS IS OUR LIFE! What don't you all get. If your intentions were to hurt us, embarrass us, make us feel alone, take all happiness away, you've succeeded on so many levels. Just know we will continue to grow & show the world what real love is! Ravensnation we love you!"
I don't know what other nicknames she has, but she's certainly earned the title of "Queen of denial."
I wonder how she would feel about him if it had been her child that was punched, struck and dragged. It may have been "Our Life" but he made a public spectacle of himself in a public place. And he is a public figure and role model to many.
It was public THIS time. Who besides me thinks this wasn't an isolated incident?
Okay, I just spoke to an adult man. He has never in his life been in a physical fight of any kind ever. He is the most nonviolent person I know. But I asked him about hitting a woman in general. (For the record, we did not speak to the specifics of the video other than he agreed that knocking out ANYONE was bad obviously. He feels no one should hit anyone so hard they are knocked out, but he says not to put a gender label on that.)

He did say, if a woman meant to do him bodily harm and was coming at him and she hit him, he would hit her back to defend himself. He said, just because a woman is a woman doesn't mean they can't really hurt someone. His comment was he would never ever throw the first punch, but if a woman were attacking him violently, he said Equal Rights, Equal Fights.

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Rice is a big guy. If he can shrug off hits from 300 lb linebackers, he can defend himself against a woman without cold-cocking her senseless.
 

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When I was young, and after my parents divorced, my Mom dated a man for a couple of years. Very charming guy, good looking, but when he drank he became a different person. He was abusive to my Mom, both verbally and physically, and to a lesser extant to my brother and I. To this day, I say no man should EVER strike a woman. EVER. Of course I don't think anyone should ever hit anyone, but that's just me in my little rose-colored world. I can't stand violence. Whether it be with two adults, or an adult and a child or a human being with an animal. I abhor violence. It does nothing but degrade you and your soul.
 

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Okay, I just spoke to an adult man. He has never in his life been in a physical fight of any kind ever. He is the most nonviolent person I know. But I asked him about hitting a woman in general. (For the record, we did not speak to the specifics of the video other than he agreed that knocking out ANYONE was bad obviously. He feels no one should hit anyone so hard they are knocked out, but he says not to put a gender label on that.)

Yes, I have been there. You poke and prod someone until they lose it. Then you are the good guy.. Look what happened. But in the end, no one wins.
Victim mentality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


He did say, if a woman meant to do him bodily harm and was coming at him and she hit him, he would hit her back to defend himself. He said, just because a woman is a woman doesn't mean they can't really hurt someone. His comment was he would never ever throw the first punch, but if a woman were attacking him violently, he said Equal Rights, Equal Fights.

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I have been there. You just nag and poke and push until a man gets fed up.
And then you can be the victim.

Victim mentality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

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Okay, I just spoke to an adult man. He has never in his life been in a physical fight of any kind ever. He is the most nonviolent person I know. But I asked him about hitting a woman in general. (For the record, we did not speak to the specifics of the video other than he agreed that knocking out ANYONE was bad obviously. He feels no one should hit anyone so hard they are knocked out, but he says not to put a gender label on that.)

He did say, if a woman meant to do him bodily harm and was coming at him and she hit him, he would hit her back to defend himself. He said, just because a woman is a woman doesn't mean they can't really hurt someone. His comment was he would never ever throw the first punch, but if a woman were attacking him violently, he said Equal Rights, Equal Fights.

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If a woman attacked me, I'd defend myself. Unless she were some kind of woman rassler or ninja or had a weapon, then it would be a matter of pushing her back, of holding her off, of getting an immobilizing hold, or some such thing. It wouldn't be a left hook to the temple, particularly if I'm at the prime of my physique and outweigh her by 50 pounds.

The wonder is not really that he should be suspended. The wonder is that he's not in jail.
 

not_nadine

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I am trying to deal with my best friend. She lost her first husband on Thursday.

The father of my Godchild.

She is most upset that his family did not even mention her or her daughter in the obit. Rightly so.

We just yelled back and forth at each other and remembered all the times he was so bad to her. We had so many memories. I reminded her of a few that she forgot.

I think we both just got it all out. We took it out on each other. It was good for her to get it out. I love her madly. we have been best friends even before I was in first grade.

I know her more than anyone. She was so abused by this man.

I think it was very helpful to both of us. But left my heart so empty that I could not hold and hug her at this time.

Maybe its a bad time for me to post in this thread
 

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I am trying to deal with my best friend. She lost her first husband on Thursday.

The father of my Godchild.

She is most upset that his family did not even mention her or her daughter in the obit. Rightly so.

We just yelled back and forth at each other and remembered all the times he was so bad to her. We had so many memories. I reminded her of a few that she forgot.

I think we both just got it all out. We took it out on each other. It was good for her to get it out. I love her madly. we have been best friends even before I was in first grade.

I know her more than anyone. She was so abused by this man.

I think it was very helpful to both of us. But left my heart so empty that I could not hold and hug her at this time.

Maybe its a bad time for me to post in this thread
No girl, sometimes things are just better... out. xox

(((N.N)))
 

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Okay, I just spoke to an adult man. He has never in his life been in a physical fight of any kind ever. He is the most nonviolent person I know. But I asked him about hitting a woman in general. (For the record, we did not speak to the specifics of the video other than he agreed that knocking out ANYONE was bad obviously. He feels no one should hit anyone so hard they are knocked out, but he says not to put a gender label on that.)

He did say, if a woman meant to do him bodily harm and was coming at him and she hit him, he would hit her back to defend himself. He said, just because a woman is a woman doesn't mean they can't really hurt someone. His comment was he would never ever throw the first punch, but if a woman were attacking him violently, he said Equal Rights, Equal Fights.

Comments on this?
...I concur...
 

Lepplady

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I beg your pardon.

You just nag and poke and push until a man gets fed up. And then decides to defend himself?

And then you can be the victim. The *victim* of defending yourself?

I don't understand.

Peace.
Again, I beg your pardon.

So, If You just nag and poke and push until a man gets fed up.
And said man, defends himself * YOU CAN BE THE VICTIM*???

I'm not following your reasoning.

Peace.
Perhaps it's a matter of necessary force. As irritating as a woman can be, there's no justification for punching a woman in the face so hard she loses consciousness for several minutes. So maybe her being a victim is a matter of sheer violence. He could have defended himself with much less brutal force.
 

kingricefan

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Perhaps it's a matter of necessary force. As irritating as a woman can be, there's no justification for punching a woman in the face so hard she loses consciousness for several minutes. So maybe her being a victim is a matter of sheer violence. He could have defended himself with much less brutal force.
He could have just wrapped his arms around her to stop her if she was hitting him. There's absolutely no defense for what he did to her.
 

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Check this out. Bill Polian was being interviewed by ESPN on what he thought of the league's handling of the Ray Rice situation. Polian is a former NFL exec and he worked in the NFL offices at one time. He was being interviewed and his interview was cut short by "technical problems." He was then brought back 20 minutes later and asked the same question. Check out the two answers:

Something Very Weird Happened During ESPN's Interview With Bill Polian