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carrie's younger brother

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I've seen Joan Baez perform. Great folk singer but I wouldn't classify her music as Rock N Roll.
Neither does she. Here's her very astute observation about that subject from a NYT story today:

“I never considered myself to be a rock ’n’ roll artist,” Ms. Baez said in a statement. “But as part of the folk music boom, which contributed to and influenced the rock revolution of the ’60s, I am proud that some of the songs I sang made their way into the rock lexicon.”
 

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I'm a prog rock guy (notice the "rock" in that descriptor), so I'm happy about ELO and Yes.

Growing up, and by that I mean my late teens and early twenties, a good friend and I had endless debates. He liked Yes, with ELP (Emerson, Lake & Palmer) behind. I liked ELP, with Yes behind. He argued that Rick Wakeman was the better keyboarder. I was steadfast in loyalty to Keith Emerson.

Then we saw a televised concert from Ontario, CA, and Emerson was playing the keys upside down, strapping himself into the grand piano seat and playing while it went rotating end over end. My friend finally said, "Okay, fine. Emerson's better. But that's the ONLY TIME you'll hear me say it!"

Joan Baez was not a rocker. But she was at Woodstock and Top 40 radio now and then, or maybe once. Besides, rock'n'roll back in the day was the expression of rebellion, and she was one of rebellion's leading voices. And if Bob Dylan qualifies, so does she.

Anyway, you want clips? Here's a clip. If it starts out too weird for you, just skip to 1:30.

 

carrie's younger brother

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I'm a prog rock guy (notice the "rock" in that descriptor), so I'm happy about ELO and Yes.

Growing up, and by that I mean my late teens and early twenties, a good friend and I had endless debates. He liked Yes, with ELP (Emerson, Lake & Palmer) behind. I liked ELP, with Yes behind. He argued that Rick Wakeman was the better keyboarder. I was steadfast in loyalty to Keith Emerson.

Then we saw a televised concert from Ontario, CA, and Emerson was playing the keys upside down, strapping himself into the grand piano seat and playing while it went rotating end over end. My friend finally said, "Okay, fine. Emerson's better. But that's the ONLY TIME you'll hear me say it!"

Joan Baez was not a rocker. But she was at Woodstock and Top 40 radio now and then, or maybe once. Besides, rock'n'roll back in the day was the expression of rebellion, and she was one of rebellion's leading voices. And if Bob Dylan qualifies, so does she.

Anyway, you want clips? Here's a clip. If it starts out too weird for you, just skip to 1:30.

Hadn't heard that one in years. Thanks for posting!
 

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Then we saw a televised concert from Ontario, CA, and Emerson was playing the keys upside down, strapping himself into the grand piano seat and playing while it went rotating end over end. My friend finally said, "Okay, fine. Emerson's better. But that's the ONLY TIME you'll hear me say it!"


I saw Garth Hudson (The Band) on a show (I think it was one of those VH-1 classic album things but I'm not sure) and he sat in between two keyboards and played completely different pieces of music with each hand at the same time on the two keyboards.
 

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To answer Walt's question, the R&RHoF is owned by Jan Wenner, who also founded Rolling Stone magazine. Wenner hates Progressive rock. Pink Floyd was the first Prog band inducted. Genesis was finally allowed in 2008, Rush in 2014 and now, finally, Yes. Wenner is a pretentious music snob, a hipster who thinks that the only "real" rock & roll is blue collar, middle class poetry. He is, IMO, a jerk.

But I'm very happy that Yes is finally getting in, though a couple of years too late to see Chris Squire on that stage. :(
 

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To answer Walt's question, the R&RHoF is owned by Jan Wenner, who also founded Rolling Stone magazine. Wenner hates Progressive rock. Pink Floyd was the first Prog band inducted. Genesis was finally allowed in 2008, Rush in 2014 and now, finally, Yes. Wenner is a pretentious music snob, a hipster who thinks that the only "real" rock & roll is blue collar, middle class poetry. He is, IMO, a jerk.

But I'm very happy that Yes is finally getting in, though a couple of years too late to see Chris Squire on that stage. :(

That's BS. Emerson Lake & Palmer, possibly/arguably the premiere prog rock band of the late '60s and early '70s (okay, after the Floyd), was the foundation of my rock and roll appreciation. And I'm just one voice crying in the wilderness, but there must've been other college folk like me.
 

Tery

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That's BS. Emerson Lake & Palmer, possibly/arguably the premiere prog rock band of the late '60s and early '70s (okay, after the Floyd), was the foundation of my rock and roll appreciation. And I'm just one voice crying in the wilderness, but there must've been other college folk like me.

Yes, lots. But Wenner wasn't one of us.