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hipmamajen

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Apr 4, 2008
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We have lice. Specially imported from the Hawaiian islands on my niece's dreadlocks (which have been laboriously combed out.) Now my 3 daughters have them too, probably from all the combing. It took me and the three of them hours and hours over three days, and I'm guessing some head-scratching or lice-flinging happened.

Lice are hard to kill. Very hard to kill. I didn't know that. We've tried everything.

I actually looked up NASA's contact information online to see if they can nuke our house from space. Even though I figured we could personally take care of salting the earth after, so they don't have to handle that part, it still doesn't seem to be a service they offer. Does anyone know how to reach Kim Jong-Un or Putin?

We're getting a handle on it, but it takes constant vigilance, and constant combing.

When people say that only the only things to survive the apocalypse will be cockroaches and Twinkies, I beg to differ. It will be cockroaches, Twinkies and lice...

It's a good thing I don't drink, I'd have been deep in the sauce for the last couple of weeks for sure. Oooh hey, I wonder if flambé will kill them?
 

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We have lice. Specially imported from the Hawaiian islands on my niece's dreadlocks (which have been laboriously combed out.) Now my 3 daughters have them too, probably from all the combing. It took me and the three of them hours and hours over three days, and I'm guessing some head-scratching or lice-flinging happened.

Lice are hard to kill. Very hard to kill. I didn't know that. We've tried everything.

I actually looked up NASA's contact information online to see if they can nuke our house from space. Even though I figured we could personally take care of salting the earth after, so they don't have to handle that part, it still doesn't seem to be a service they offer. Does anyone know how to reach Kim Jong-Un or Putin?

We're getting a handle on it, but it takes constant vigilance, and constant combing.

When people say that only the only things to survive the apocalypse will be cockroaches and Twinkies, I beg to differ. It will be cockroaches, Twinkies and lice...

It's a good thing I don't drink, I'd have been deep in the sauce for the last couple of weeks for sure. Oooh hey, I wonder if flambé will kill them?
If you haven't already done this, and it's a last resort thing, there are prescription medications for lice when you encounter the over the counter resistant lice. We had to go that route when we had an especially bad strain of them get brought home from school one year. Ovide is one of the brand names but I don't remember for sure if that was what we had to use before we were finally able to get the little bastids under control.
 

PatInTheHat

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Oh jeez, been there done that, your poor washing machine and hot water heater will soon beg for mercy, show them none.
I'm lucky though, them nitwits don't seem to care much for me, or didn't back when I had kiddos what brought 'em home, and I'm rather kinda furry, fleas and ticks on the other hand, those rat bastids must find me to be a blood suckin' parasite amusement park.
'Scuse please, gotta go scritch meself on a tree now:rolleyes:
Seriously goodly much luck with 'em, I mean just when ya think ya got 'em licked, you can be sooo wrong:sweat:
 

hipmamajen

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Apr 4, 2008
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We will find a way. We had t stop using the over the counter treatments, and ignore any sort of treatment regimens that says "treat on day 1, then again on day 7."

After reading the entire internet (twice) I learned that the today's Lice on the Go is immune to most of the poisons we use on them. They are, however, not immune to suffocation. So, in my extensive research, I found that the most readily available product that has the proper viscosity to clog up their spiracles (lice lung-holes) and density to then keep the air out, without being deadly to humans and/or crazy flammable is olive oil. Olive oil and time.

Then, you have to pick every single one of them (and their eggs) off of each kid's head, because if you leave even one behind you may as well have not bothered following IT through the sewers and stepping on *any* of the baby "spiders," because the whole crap cycle will start right over. And it won't take 27 years, either.

Did you know there are services out there that do lice removal? I did not. They either come to your home, or you take your lousy heads in to them, and they comb and nitpick (literally, that's where the term came from) for hours. Anyway, they say that the combs you get with your Rid and Nix are for poop, and they recommend these two. Seriously, always one of these.

The LiceMeister Comb
"The only comb approved by the National Pediculosis Association to treat lice and nits as well as to prevent lice and nits from returning."
(Oooh, the National Pediculosis Association? Must be serious!)

Nit Free Terminator Lice Comb
"#1 Lice Comb used by Professional Lice Removal Services! Lifetime Guarantee."
(I don't even want to think about needing a Lifetime Guarantee on an item like this. Sigh.)

I bought both.

I did miraculously, manage to snag one prescription treatment. Only one. I used it on my niece. It's called Natroba (spinosad) and it's supposed to be "The Sh¡t." Sadly, even though it's the best thing out there, the success rate is only 86%. She's out of town, so when she gets back she's due for a good looking over and a visit from the LiceMeister/Terminator.

Honestly, I'd have to say the whole thing has me a little discouraged. Which is about as "low" as I get.

Has this happened to anyone else? What worked? In starting to wonder if I'm working off some pretty serious karma, or maybe I need to give more money to charity? Gah!
 

Spideyman

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hipmamajen - having worked in a child care center lice are a pain in the butt!
Once you have succeeded is getting them all taken care of- sent to the clearing, may I suggest using hair mousse daily in all hair. The lice just can't lay their eggs on slick hair. It worked for at all centers. When parents couldn't afford it- I provided.

Stuffed animals, things that can not be washed- place in plastic bags and put away for 3 weeks. Heat is the enemy of lice and nits- so as you wash "everything" use the hottest setting on your dryer.

Don;t forget the car, head rest/ matt. Vacuum and spray with a lice based spray. Brushes, combs, hear ties.

One method used in combing-- a tarp and outside if possible or garage. Comb away and get rid of the tarp.

Tea tree oils and essential oil of lavender can be used as a shampoo. Let set 15 mites or so.

Organic apple cider vinegar- rinse the hair with it- this loosen the nits/ now use coconut oil and place a shower cap on head for overnight- at least 8 hours. You can easily comb the dead nits. Wash hair. It may take a few washing to get coconut oil out.
Blow dry- ck and re ck.

Good luck.
 

Spideyman

Uber Member
Jul 10, 2006
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Just north of Duma Key
We will find a way. We had t stop using the over the counter treatments, and ignore any sort of treatment regimens that says "treat on day 1, then again on day 7."

After reading the entire internet (twice) I learned that the today's Lice on the Go is immune to most of the poisons we use on them. They are, however, not immune to suffocation. So, in my extensive research, I found that the most readily available product that has the proper viscosity to clog up their spiracles (lice lung-holes) and density to then keep the air out, without being deadly to humans and/or crazy flammable is olive oil. Olive oil and time.

Then, you have to pick every single one of them (and their eggs) off of each kid's head, because if you leave even one behind you may as well have not bothered following IT through the sewers and stepping on *any* of the baby "spiders," because the whole crap cycle will start right over. And it won't take 27 years, either.

Did you know there are services out there that do lice removal? I did not. They either come to your home, or you take your lousy heads in to them, and they comb and nitpick (literally, that's where the term came from) for hours. Anyway, they say that the combs you get with your Rid and Nix are for poop, and they recommend these two. Seriously, always one of these.

The LiceMeister Comb
"The only comb approved by the National Pediculosis Association to treat lice and nits as well as to prevent lice and nits from returning."
(Oooh, the National Pediculosis Association? Must be serious!)

Nit Free Terminator Lice Comb
"#1 Lice Comb used by Professional Lice Removal Services! Lifetime Guarantee."
(I don't even want to think about needing a Lifetime Guarantee on an item like this. Sigh.)

I bought both.

I did miraculously, manage to snag one prescription treatment. Only one. I used it on my niece. It's called Natroba (spinosad) and it's supposed to be "The Sh¡t." Sadly, even though it's the best thing out there, the success rate is only 86%. She's out of town, so when she gets back she's due for a good looking over and a visit from the LiceMeister/Terminator.

Honestly, I'd have to say the whole thing has me a little discouraged. Which is about as "low" as I get.

Has this happened to anyone else? What worked? In starting to wonder if I'm working off some pretty serious karma, or maybe I need to give more money to charity? Gah!


Just saw this added post-
Yes, services- usually a beauty shop for a price will de louse . And yes, you must get every single nit or else!!!!!!

Comb- you will laugh-- a cat flea comb works great. Like I said, I have been there all too often. Center after center, heads cks upon arrival, head cks as they leave-- oh yes. Do not want a parents saying they picked it up there.

When it's lice season, watch public transportation/ shopping carts/ doctor visits. Ck and re ck.
 

PatInTheHat

GOOBER MEMBER
Dec 19, 2007
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Lair of the Great Kentucky Nightcrawler
hipmamajen - having worked in a child care center lice are a pain in the butt!
Once you have succeeded is getting them all taken care of- sent to the clearing, may I suggest using hair mousse daily in all hair. The lice just can't lay their eggs on slick hair. It worked for at all centers. When parents couldn't afford it- I provided.

Stuffed animals, things that can not be washed- place in plastic bags and put away for 3 weeks. Heat is the enemy of lice and nits- so as you wash "everything" use the hottest setting on your dryer.

Don;t forget the car, head rest/ matt. Vacuum and spray with a lice based spray. Brushes, combs, hear ties.

One method used in combing-- a tarp and outside if possible or garage. Comb away and get rid of the tarp.

Tea tree oils and essential oil of lavender can be used as a shampoo. Let set 15 mites or so.

Organic apple cider vinegar- rinse the hair with it- this loosen the nits/ now use coconut oil and place a shower cap on head for overnight- at least 8 hours. You can easily comb the dead nits. Wash hair. It may take a few washing to get coconut oil out.
Blow dry- ck and re ck.

Good luck.
Yeah!...and if your economical about your hot water setting, chuck that one right out the window til your free at last free at last, just have everybody keep it in mind so as nit to scald yourselves (that was actually a typo, but I thought I'd just leave nit:rolleyes:..yeah that wasn't)..eh, but ya probably will, well, I always did:a11:
 

Lepplady

Chillin' since 2006
Nov 30, 2006
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Red Stick
We have lice. Specially imported from the Hawaiian islands on my niece's dreadlocks (which have been laboriously combed out.) Now my 3 daughters have them too, probably from all the combing. It took me and the three of them hours and hours over three days, and I'm guessing some head-scratching or lice-flinging happened.

Lice are hard to kill. Very hard to kill. I didn't know that. We've tried everything.

I actually looked up NASA's contact information online to see if they can nuke our house from space. Even though I figured we could personally take care of salting the earth after, so they don't have to handle that part, it still doesn't seem to be a service they offer. Does anyone know how to reach Kim Jong-Un or Putin?

We're getting a handle on it, but it takes constant vigilance, and constant combing.

When people say that only the only things to survive the apocalypse will be cockroaches and Twinkies, I beg to differ. It will be cockroaches, Twinkies and lice...

It's a good thing I don't drink, I'd have been deep in the sauce for the last couple of weeks for sure. Oooh hey, I wonder if flambé will kill them?
A gallon jug of vinegar. A bottle of lemon juice. Salt. Mix them up and rinse heads with it repeatedly. Kills lice every time.
Hint one: make sure it's warm. This stuff stinks of vinegar, which is bad enough. But dousing a head with COLD vinegar adds insult to stench.
Hint two: repeat this every week for a few weeks. This solution should kill eggs too, but just in case. You know.

People dealt with lice with natural ingredients for centuries before chemicals came along. There's no need for harsh chemicals. :cool2:
 

80sFan

Just one more chapter...
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My son had lice a couple years back. Good news was no one else got it (his sister and I have waist-length hair). Bad news was that was during a time when the boy was deathly afraid of haircuts. So while everyone just told us to "give him a buzz cut" that wasn't an option then. Thankfully, the OTC treatment did work but even that was a nightmare (trying not to get it in his eyes while he squirmed like an animal while 2 adults held him down).
All I can say is good luck! Hope you find something that works soon!
 

staropeace

Richard Bachman's love child
Nov 28, 2006
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I was a boy scout leader. I did not catch lice but I did get scabbies. Holy Mother! I hear yah Jen.
One thing I would do, is get your kids hair cut very short. It may not be cool but it is a darn sight better than have bugs eating away and jumping all over the place. Like Maryann said, get rid of the toys and anything of fabric. Shove it in a shed and wait. Heat or cold will do the job on them.
Dread locks are not cool when it comes to wildlife. I think they attract dirt and creepy crawlers.
 

GNTLGNT

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Let set 15 mites or so.
...Oh Spidey honey, what a hilarious Freudian mistype!!!:rofl:

...and Jen my darling?...if you recall our discussion of a couple of the local ummmm, "motels".....they might be willing to take the hair hoppers off yer hands(and many other things)...after all, they've cornered the market in bed-bugs, both alive and dead-possibly they're looking to branch out....
 

hipmamajen

Rebel Rebel, your face is a mess.
Apr 4, 2008
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6,090
Colorado
I was a boy scout leader. I did not catch lice but I did get scabbies. Holy Mother! I hear yah Jen.
One thing I would do, is get your kids hair cut very short. It may not be cool but it is a darn sight better than have bugs eating away and jumping all over the place. Like Maryann said, get rid of the toys and anything of fabric. Shove it in a shed and wait. Heat or cold will do the job on them.
Dread locks are not cool when it comes to wildlife. I think they attract dirt and creepy crawlers.

Scabies are a nightmare, too. My Grandma-in-law had them, twice, when she was in the hospital. :(

It took forever to get the dreadlocks out, but they were much cleaner than I would have thought (considering we were combing them out because there were tiny bugs in them.) Mostly we found sand, and a huge amount of glitter. Kids these days....

...Oh Spidey honey, what a hilarious Freudian mistype!!!:rofl:

...and Jen my darling?...if you recall our discussion of a couple of the local ummmm, "motels".....they might be willing to take the hair hoppers off yer hands(and many other things)...after all, they've cornered the market in bed-bugs, both alive and dead-possibly they're looking to branch out....

I thought of that! Actually, I think I'd take lice over bed bugs. Bed bugs travel pretty easily, and require some pretty nasty chemical cleanup. I'll just let those folks at the Down and Out Motel (within easy walking distance of 3 different liquor stores!) keep their bed bug collection to themselves...

Kind of strange - After I got done reading through this thread I went to the CNN site and there was an article on lice.

Mutant lice are probably coming! But first, the hype - CNN.com

Wow, statistically, almost all of the lice they checked in the U.S., Europe, or Australia were genetically resistant to the medications in the OTC treatments available to us. Great!

I guess it's better to keep them busy mutating a resistance to one medicine after another, rather than spending their time cross-breeding with antelope to gain greater mobility, or possibly building a bomb...
 

Lepplady

Chillin' since 2006
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Red Stick
Scabies are a nightmare, too. My Grandma-in-law had them, twice, when she was in the hospital. :(

It took forever to get the dreadlocks out, but they were much cleaner than I would have thought (considering we were combing them out because there were tiny bugs in them.) Mostly we found sand, and a huge amount of glitter. Kids these days....



I thought of that! Actually, I think I'd take lice over bed bugs. Bed bugs travel pretty easily, and require some pretty nasty chemical cleanup. I'll just let those folks at the Down and Out Motel (within easy walking distance of 3 different liquor stores!) keep their bed bug collection to themselves...



Wow, statistically, almost all of the lice they checked in the U.S., Europe, or Australia were genetically resistant to the medications in the OTC treatments available to us. Great!

I guess it's better to keep them busy mutating a resistance to one medicine after another, rather than spending their time cross-breeding with antelope to gain greater mobility, or possibly building a bomb...
Vinegar, lemon and salt still take 'em all out, though.
;)
 

Dana Jean

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We have lice. Specially imported from the Hawaiian islands on my niece's dreadlocks (which have been laboriously combed out.) Now my 3 daughters have them too, probably from all the combing. It took me and the three of them hours and hours over three days, and I'm guessing some head-scratching or lice-flinging happened.

Lice are hard to kill. Very hard to kill. I didn't know that. We've tried everything.

I actually looked up NASA's contact information online to see if they can nuke our house from space. Even though I figured we could personally take care of salting the earth after, so they don't have to handle that part, it still doesn't seem to be a service they offer. Does anyone know how to reach Kim Jong-Un or Putin?

We're getting a handle on it, but it takes constant vigilance, and constant combing.

When people say that only the only things to survive the apocalypse will be cockroaches and Twinkies, I beg to differ. It will be cockroaches, Twinkies and lice...

It's a good thing I don't drink, I'd have been deep in the sauce for the last couple of weeks for sure. Oooh hey, I wonder if flambé will kill them?
cockroaches, twinkies and Cher. Don't forget Cher.