Southern States Of America?

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stevegane

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Unfortunately I have never had the opportunity to visit The USA.
I am part way through a TV series called Justified, it is about a US Marshall and is set in Kentucky.
My question is, are the southern states of America actually as portrayed on TV and in films? Lots of guns. Tall slim men in Stetsons and attractive s**y ladies.

 

blunthead

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Unfortunately I have never had the opportunity to visit The USA.
I am part way through a TV series called Justified, it is about a US Marshall and is set in Kentucky.
My question is, are the southern states of America actually as portrayed on TV and in films? Lots of guns. Tall slim men in Stetsons and attractive s**y ladies.

I imagine the answer to your question depends on which TV shows and films and which aspects of them, and which states and which areas in them. I think a truthful, general answer is "No". I've lived in only a few southern areas and so can't personally speak for them. In my experience what's true for urban areas is usually not true for more rural ones. Gun ownership is prevalent all over the U.S. I suspect there are more gun owners in the midwest and western states than anywhere else.

When I lived in Louisiana, a southern state, a lot of the men wore cowboy-type hats, cowboy boots and big belt buckles (I never saw anyone carrying a gun). No one wears such attire in Georgia, another southern state, where I currently live that I've yet seen.

There are some tall, slim men and lots of sexy ladies everywhere I've lived and that includes states in the north and west. I'm familiar with Kentucky only via traveling through, but I don't remember seeing anyone seeming particularly unique or "southern"-looking.

I think the TV show you've seen is using a stereotype. I haven't seen the show so cannot judge whether it's a negative stereotype. (I realize that sounds like an oxymoron, but I think it's possible for stereotypes to be presented sympathetically. For instance, the character Rayon in Dallas Buyers Club.)
 

KingAHolic

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Unfortunately I have never had the opportunity to visit The USA.
I am part way through a TV series called Justified, it is about a US Marshall and is set in Kentucky.
My question is, are the southern states of America actually as portrayed on TV and in films? Lots of guns. Tall slim men in Stetsons and attractive s**y ladies.


It's always more glamourized on TV! Certain cities in the south can be similar to certain aspects of this show (but doubt you will find a cast of attractive people like on TV, this show, or otherwise!) ... possible, but unlikely! THIS SHOW IS SO SENSATIONAL! What season are you on? My favorite is Season 2 but I love them all!!!
 

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Florida is another southern state, and not typical of the show. Florida is like a melting pot of many from northern states. It's better known as a retirement state . Many tourists visit each year, and we have what is know as "snow Birds"- those that come during the winter months to avoid the snow and cold up north. Recent years has seen more younger folks moving to Florida to raise families.
 

Walter Oobleck

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Having lived in a number of southern states, Florida, Texas & Louisiana...as well as other places, Michigan, Minnesota, Iowa, California, Illinois, one noticeable difference between Florida and Michigan is the law governing hunting...what can and cannot be done. In Florida, for instance, they hunt with dogs, probably because Florida looks like a jungle for the better part of the year, whereas in Michigan we have a fall and the woods are open with the leaves falling from the trees. Even so, I almost stepped on a deer one season so it doesn't take much imagination to realize one could walk through the "bush" in Florida and pass within feet of all manner of critters and never know they are there.

Too...in Florida, many of the trucks had gun racks behind and above the back of the seat and a hunter can place his shotgun in the rack, get in, and drive to a place where he can set up, stand, and wait for the hounds to drive a deer across an opening on the road, most often dirt. In Michigan, one must unload the rifle in the U.P., a shotgun like in Florida, in the L.P., put it in a case that is completely closed and fastened, before one can turn the key. I remember a time when my first employer in Florida brought a...22-rifle I think it was...to work...to sell or so a co-worker could look at with the possibility of buying it. I don't recall if the gun was in a case...but since the boss had the proverbial gun-rack in the truck (he also had about 30 hounds at one time...and was a real grouch deer season, if he couldn't hunt instead of work)...I'm probably not off-base to say he simply placed the gun in the rack and drove to work with it...in full-view of all. He shot a robin with it...work site was out in the country...building a house for a man had Cherokee blood, as the song goes...and also had a collection, small, of guns, one an old revolver that showed noticeable wear on the barrel...evidence perhaps that it had been used repeatedly, the shooter drawing it from a leather holster. There were no notches in the grip. (I told the boss that the robin is Michigan's state bird...probably should have kept my yap shut.)

In Florida during most of the 80s when I was there, there were more than a few "western-theme" bars...Whiskey River was one...where many patrons male and female wore straw cowboy hats, cowboy boots, belts with large buckles...and in Texas early 80s, just after "Urban Cowboy" was on the silver screen, we went to Gilley's in Houston (or Pasadena?) where a portion of that film was made...rode the mechanical bull, did the Texas Two-Step with possibly a hundred or more others many in hats and boots and kicking under the influence of beer and whiskey. I think Earnest Tubb was playing there at the time, too. Or was it Ernie Ford?

Raylan Givens wears a specific kind of cowboy hat in Leonard's stories...Dallas Businessman's or something like that...not a straw hat as many wear.

Guns are common everywhere. The other morning I stepped outside here in the small village where I live and I could hear gunshots over across the way maybe a mile distant...I assume someone plinking at paper...sounded like a small caliber gun. It it not uncommon to hear gunshots at any time of the year, more so prior to the start of deer rifle season and then throughout that season into December, the tone of the gunshots changing from high-caliber rifle to a deeper more resonant-sounding muzzle-loader in December. Then too, I've been in a tree Oct-Dec of the year and have heard someone cut loose with what sounds like a semi-auto AK knock-off, even at a distance you can hear the metallic cycling of the gun. I pick up brass at several locations throughout the year, brass discarded by other shooters, brass that can be reloaded (which I do) or turned in for money. Some bullets cost as much as a dollar a round, so discarded brass is fine by me...I'll take it...most of it if not all has only been fired once...some, with a different primer, usually steel, I discard

Elmore Leonard, the creator of the Raylan Givens character, is a favorite writer of mine...I've read 40+ of his stories and they are all well-worth a read.
 

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The depiction of Southern/Western life in television is about as accurate as the depiction of small-town English pubs in An American Werewolf in London.

I got to say, though, that if you catch episodes of Longmire, it's not terribly far off from Wyoming Western/cowboy culture, with the exception of the absurdly high homicide rate.
 

DiO'Bolic

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If you decide to visit the USA and expect to see Kentucky life equivalent to what is portrayed in Justified (or just about any show set in one of the stereotypical US locations), I’m afraid you will be sadly disappointed.

I remember an interview on NPR recently with a European rock group. The host asked members of the group what is the most surprising thing they’ve found about the US. The group said it was driving for 10 hours between gigs, getting out of the bus, and the people were just the same as they were in the place they traveled from.
 

ghost19

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There's a "Cops" type show that is on, can't remember which channel, but it's about actual law enforcement in the Harlan County area of Kentucky. The show is a little closer to what things are actually like for LE in that area. Justified is a great show, but highly sensationalized.
 

fljoe0

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Florida is another southern state, and not typical of the show. Florida is like a melting pot of many from northern states. It's better known as a retirement state . Many tourists visit each year, and we have what is know as "snow Birds"- those that come during the winter months to avoid the snow and cold up north. Recent years has seen more younger folks moving to Florida to raise families.

As far as the melting pot thing, I'm farther South than Spidey and we have many Cuban-Americans in my area as well as people from the Northern States. Most of the Cuban-Americans that I know that are close to my age were born here but their parents were born in Cuba and came here when things started changing in the late 50s or early 60s. Florida is about as diverse a state as you will find. I was born here (very close to right where I live now) and have seen gigantic changes since 1961.
 

stevegane

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It's always more glamourized on TV! Certain cities in the south can be similar to certain aspects of this show (but doubt you will find a cast of attractive people like on TV, this show, or otherwise!) ... possible, but unlikely! THIS SHOW IS SO SENSATIONAL! What season are you on? My favorite is Season 2 but I love them all!!!

It's only just started over here, So season one, episode 7. I'ts a great show, he is such a cool guy...
 

Sundrop

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Unfortunately I have never had the opportunity to visit The USA.
I am part way through a TV series called Justified, it is about a US Marshall and is set in Kentucky.
My question is, are the southern states of America actually as portrayed on TV and in films? Lots of guns. Tall slim men in Stetsons and attractive s**y ladies.

No