It's the Salt Sucker!! I love the salt sucker.
Star Trek 50 Years
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maybe we need a favorite star trek monster survey.. I am partial to the gorn,but I also liked the horta in devil in the dark,it was like a huge acidic lasagna..and the furry white ape with the horn in the middle of his forehead..god,those seventies star treks were the best..
The salt sucker was the first episode I saw when it first aired. Changed my life. Television scifi that was better than movie scifi.
Loved:
The Horta episode because it postulated a silicon-based lifeform.
Metamorphosis, because it introduced Zefram Cochrane, whose presence would be tied up so neatly in First Contact, which became my favorite Star Trek movie.
Amok Time, which would flesh out (sorta literally) the Spock story.
The Naked Time, which would be referred to and expanded upon in STTNG.
The Trouble with Tribbles, because it's fun.
There's lots others.
Loved:
The Horta episode because it postulated a silicon-based lifeform.
Metamorphosis, because it introduced Zefram Cochrane, whose presence would be tied up so neatly in First Contact, which became my favorite Star Trek movie.
Amok Time, which would flesh out (sorta literally) the Spock story.
The Naked Time, which would be referred to and expanded upon in STTNG.
The Trouble with Tribbles, because it's fun.
There's lots others.
I love Star Trek. Simple as that. I have done since I was about 6 and the BBC re-ran it (so...autumn, because I remember watching one ep around Hallowe'en, 1979. Maybe). I can't remember what that first ep was, just that I was back week-after-week. The TV was a black-and-white set then (because they were cheaper to rent that colour by a fairly significant amount (for the time), and there were times where we didn't have a TV at all), so I didn't see it in colour until another re-run in 1984/85, which was when I appreciated the nuances much more (such as they were, I suppose I should say). I can't say that Kirk was ever my hero, though. That was Spock.
Of course, technically 'my' Trek should be/is TNG, and it, along with DS9 and, even later, Voyager does a lot to expand the universe - in TOS the Federation didn't really seem to mean much; there was no real sense of the Enterprise being part of a huge fleet with Earth playing a key role in a much larger whole, so everything seemed looser and more ad hoc - but it goes without saying that, without that initial 'Wagon Train in Space' none of the rest could ever have followed, and the themes the show touched on - sometimes lightly, sometimes heavily if not even clumsily on occasion - actually made me (for one) think even while I was having fun. Therein lies the trick, perhaps.
Of course, technically 'my' Trek should be/is TNG, and it, along with DS9 and, even later, Voyager does a lot to expand the universe - in TOS the Federation didn't really seem to mean much; there was no real sense of the Enterprise being part of a huge fleet with Earth playing a key role in a much larger whole, so everything seemed looser and more ad hoc - but it goes without saying that, without that initial 'Wagon Train in Space' none of the rest could ever have followed, and the themes the show touched on - sometimes lightly, sometimes heavily if not even clumsily on occasion - actually made me (for one) think even while I was having fun. Therein lies the trick, perhaps.
I'll be a heretic. I grew up on TOS but I like TNG better. It could've gone into a death spiral of drek, and admittedly the first season had a lot of clunk, but the culture, characters, and storylines were great. "The Measure of a Man," "Offspring," "Yesterday's Enterprise," "Reunification," "Darmok," and many others, were wonderful. "The Best of Both Worlds" was the best TV cliffhanger of all time, hands down. And Patrick Stewart could've gotten an Emmy for that one scene alone in "Sarek."
I may be way off on this -- I am not a Trek person -- but was that the episode with some sort of sickness that was represented by a drop of perspiration? Am I even close on that, was that even from the show? Also, I'm thinking that was the episode when they went back in time, maybe for the first time. If it was, and if memory serves, I think I had found it funny that whatever clock/counter they were using to measure time was not digital (funny for obvious reasons).
It is the one where touch was the vector, and it seemed to have perspiration jumping from one to another, accompanied by a little electronic sound. And yup, the engine restart gave the Enterprise its first trip back in time. Shatner was at his ham-encrusted best, and the doctor felt obliged to rip Kirk's shirt off his shoulder to give him an antidote shot, where it was fine going through the shirts every other time in the dang series.
Agree with all of that (apart from you being a heretic!). TNG and DS9 were better in all sorts of ways, but my meaning was that without TOS there would obviously have been nothing to come after so I love it for that reason as well as being a bit of a doorway into SF - not that I was a stranger to SF even by that point; I'd watched The Six Million Dollar Man and The Man From Atlantis at the age of about 3 or 4.
One of my favourite TNG eps - alongside all the ones you've mentioned (and "Darmok" is a particular favourite of mine) - is "Tapestry", which I first saw in my early 20s (as it must have been) at just the right time - or wrong one, depending on how you look at it. Of course, it didn't hurt that there was an IMO very attractive lass in it and there was a scene or two where I hated and envied Patrick Stewart pretty intensely, but...
...I always will have a fond spot for the original series...it was cutting edge and unheard of in the day...but I loved TNG a great deal and Patrick is the best Starfleet Captain of the bunch....
I know not everyone agrees, but I absolutely do.
Okay, I have to share this. From "Sarek," a tour de force performance. Picard has mind-melded with Sarek so that Sarek can have mental stability, but Picard pays the price of a session of strong but compulsively repressed Vulcan emotions. They come out.
At 1:13, Picard stars the experience. No camera cut until 2:39.
2:40, picks up again. At 3:49, the tears begin to stream down his face. Next camera cut, 3:55.
I'm in awe.
Agreed. Like I said before, Kirk was never a hero to me - I never wanted to be that kind of man - but Picard...even though I was a man by the time I first saw TNG (iirc it first aired on the BBC in Sept 1990 or maybe 1991), I was still only a very young one with time and opportunity to follow slightly different lines.
I'm not going to pretend that I'm now the Man For All Seasons that Picard was/is, and obviously I've always been aware that it's just a character anyway, but it encouraged a lot of personal growth and I'm now far from the man I might have been - even if that initial path still wasn't a particularly ruinous one.
That said, it was Ben Sisko who finally punched Q, so...
(Not that I'm sure of the wisdom in punching omnipotent beings, but there you go.)My favorite Trek Episode of all in all of the series In a Pale Moonlight DS9 where Captain Sisko is telling the story of how he and Garrack got the Romulan's into the war agains the Dominion. It's such a great episode. 
Captain Benjamin Sisko is my favorite Star Trek Captain.
Captain Benjamin Sisko is my favorite Star Trek Captain.
I heard there's a new Star Trek series in the works called "Discovery" or something like that. Supposed to star Rainn Wilson from The Office. Sometime in 2017 I think. Should be interesting.
It would have been a forgettable straight sci fi show
Shatner and the re-imagining of Spock's character made that show.
It would have been a forgettable straight sci fi show
Mjs9153, thank you so, so much for posting that video! The scene where the Horta writes "No kill I" is one of my earliest memories! I'm not even really a Star Trek fan, but just happened to see that episode when I was very little, and that moment was so moving... It was a gentle, friendly creature and they were going to kill it, and then it wrote that sweet, sincere little plea from the heart... I have always been a softy, and that moment burned into my memory like the first time you see Bambi's mother being shot.
In all the years since, I have never seen it again but could never, ever forget it. Thank you, thank you, thank you, mon cher ami!
Its a Prequel series, set 10 years before the original.
Glad you liked it! I usually get used bags of popcorn thrown at me for what I post..