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Dana Jean

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Exactly my point, he 'thieves' , they 'thieve', we all 'thieve' - what part of that do you not understand.

As for original thought, did you take the time to read anything on the link? And why so nasty?
Stanley, I reacted to what you said to me. When someone "farts in my general direction," gee, maybe that sounds a bit nasty. And, if I want to read about Stephen's characters, I'll read Stephen's work.
 

Dana Jean

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Sorry, pop culture reference, i thought you'd get the humour- guess not.


Okay, I see the humor there in the clip. But it doesn't change the fact that Stephen doesn't like fan fiction. I have no problem with someone wanting to read your stuff at all. But, this is Stephen's place and he doesn't want it here. That's all I'm saying. They can privately ask you for links. I said this to you in my original post, and then you felt the need to jump on me that I was wrong for censoring you. I'm sorry you feel this, but this isn't just some random thing I decided to do to you. Stephen doesn't like it and he doesn't want it here.
 

Stanley Ruiz

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Okay, I see the humor there in the clip. But it doesn't change the fact that Stephen doesn't like fan fiction. I have no problem with someone wanting to read your stuff at all. But, this is Stephen's place and he doesn't want it here. That's all I'm saying. They can privately ask you for links. I said this to you in my original post, and then you felt the need to jump on me that I was wrong for censoring you. I'm sorry you feel this, but this isn't just some random thing I decided to do to you. Stephen doesn't like it and he doesn't want it here.

Dana, he might not like it- but he started it off, creating the monster of 'On Writing' . I have not heard of any other writer telling us do what he has done. And unfortunately since 'On Writing' was published in 2000, many late comers like myself, want to show our homework to our stay away teacher. The challenge was taken up...but who do we hand it into?
This board is the nearest thing to a peer we have- and like it or not- its out there. So why ignore it.
I wonder, and its just an innocent thought- so dont get mad, if joe Hill practiced this way and was knocked down for sneaking in father callahan into one of his stories.

I'm just a illiterate blogger, who happens to be a huge fan of Stephen King. I enjoy writing, and chatting to folks on here when i can. Does it have to be a crime to want to share thoughts that are inspired by reading his tales.

Hell, its ninth grade nonsense at best, and all im arguing is the point, not the fact that i tried.

I just wondered what would happen if he had penned his characters to turn left instead of right is all.
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SusanNorton

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I say this site is Steve's party, and if a host graciously invites a person to his home, they shouldn't wipe their *@!< on the curtains.

There's a place down the block where *@!<-wiping is encouraged, I'm sure. That's why the Internet is a lovely thing.

Dana Jean - please feel free to thieve, delete, or censor these comments. As moderator, it is your perfect right to do this. Thank you.
 

Dana Jean

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Dana, he might not like it- but he started it off, creating the monster of 'On Writing' . I have not heard of any other writer telling us do what he has done. And unfortunately since 'On Writing' was published in 2000, many late comers like myself, want to show our homework to our stay away teacher. The challenge was taken up...but who do we hand it into?
This board is the nearest thing to a peer we have- and like it or not- its out there. So why ignore it.
I wonder, and its just an innocent thought- so dont get mad, if joe Hill practiced this way and was knocked down for sneaking in father callahan into one of his stories.

I'm just a illiterate blogger, who happens to be a huge fan of Stephen King. I enjoy writing, and chatting to folks on here when i can. Does it have to be a crime to want to share thoughts that are inspired by reading his tales.

Hell, its ninth grade nonsense at best, and all im arguing is the point, not the fact that i tried.

I just wondered what would happen if he had penned his characters to turn left instead of right is all.
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You are not an illiterate blogger by any means. I know there are many who love your writing. And that's great. And I'm very happy you enjoy writing and I think it's fantastic that Stephen has inspired you. I love On Writing and it is inspiring. I just don't understand why you are arguing with me? I'm just telling you the rules of this board. I'm not mad at all.

As far as Joe, I think he probably had permission to use whatever he wanted.
 

FlakeNoir

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Sheemiee, the website Terms of Service and Rules specifically mention that: "You agree to not use the Service to submit or link to any Content which is defamatory, abusive, hateful, threatening, spam or spam-like, likely to offend, contains adult or objectionable content, contains personal information of others, risks copyright infringement, encourages unlawful activity, or otherwise violates any laws."
They further mention: "We reserve the rights to remove or modify any Content submitted for any reason without explanation.."
And particularly the last line explains that: "If you do not agree with these terms, please do not register or use this Service."

Signing up for and using an account here, means that you agree to abide by the rules of the website. Dana Jean has been more than fair in removing your link while it is established whether or not Stephen will be happy for you to be linking to a site containing material that (As Dana Jean mentioned) he has in the past been completely clear about not allowing people to use.

Using a character's name in a piece of work is quite different to using the actual (or in this case multiple) character/s themselves.
 

SHEEMIEE

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Okay, 8 months on and i finally got something brewing.

Yes its Something new- no borrowed characters.

Do you know how hard it is to learn how to write your own characters?
Bloody!
Thats how hard!

Anyhoo, my SK training wheels are off, cast away now. And I have tried real hard to remove all images in my head of every book previously read so that i don't just close my eyes and picture one of the many protagonists in my head.
Do you realise how hard that is!
Bloody!
Thats how hard!

So, this time i really tried- and i think I got something new.
I hope i have something new.
I want to have something new.

Do you want to see if i have something new?

I still have issues with grammar, I realise that and I am trying hard to polish the basics. (School was a long time ago) what i want is someone to look past the dots and the spots, and the squiggly dashes and have a decent look at the story, and maybe tell me if its worth carrying on with this maddening hobby. Because i have no illusions of grandeur here, Its been bloody hard work.Frustration and doubt seems to linger (see previous tantrum!)

So step up - take a swipe, knock me down if you must, but just be honest.(not too honest)

I havent read a book since i began this pilgrimage for fear of copying some other work fresh in my head - but I must admit to having watched reruns of Blake's 7 Lassie and Benji for inspiration.

Whats it about?

Well so far chapters are scattered- 20,000 here 10,000 there a whole book (100,000) that has been chewed up and spat out - (sorry V for making you read that stuff) so bits of stories are lying under my bed in a box marked 'one day' , in numerous files around my screen- hell i even have a note pad in my work van!

Its sci fi , but ive tried to keep away from the science ...And the fiction is as believable as I can make it, so its ' no science un fiction' And tells the tale of two survivors caught up in a pointless war for survival. Robinson Crusoe i hear you cry. And yet there are no coconuts in space! (But there are cowboys!)


Its POV because im trying to figure out how to write that way convincingly.
Oh, but there is one little thing I pinched from sai King...

Kill your Darlings

So if you are interested in helping me out, I would love any feedback to my first draft opening chapter (8000words) Or if you would just like to laugh and shake your head, feel free-

Dana- no birds are harmed in this story, but I cant promise any other of noahs creatures will escape scot free :)


Thanks for your time.
Sheemus.

Oh yeh ...the link :hammer:

Dogs of war part 1-5 complete | WritersCafe.org | The Online Writing Community


 

SHEEMIEE

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I read it. It reminded me of Jack London dog/wolf perspectives, but in different contexts and settings.

Nice, and it's apparent you've really given it a go. I'd give it a once-over for structural tightening, but I'd also submit it. Do your homework and research first before you send it out.

Thanks for taking time out to read lily, i just done a reference of jack london and might just have a look at the taming of the wolf story. ' dogs of war' still has a way to go, and hopefully the structure will come. As for sending it out - it's great to know you reckon its nearly there.