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Discussion in 'General Discussion & Questions' started by fushingfeef, May 2, 2014.
I love cereal! But with my diet I can't have any.
Plus, such a person might decide they're drawn to it. Note: I say they decide that they are. They might assume the same things which too many people assume; that such literature is something it really isn't.
...so I have to floss and brush my avatar too?....
...you have no avatar to brush...
...at least not in public...
Well, sure you've got that one, goes without saying... Goes in public sometimes if yer like me.
...age has a way of doing that...LOL....me?....I do it on purpose and then roll into a fetal position, screaming at non-existent gophers to quit groping me...
Oh. That was you. Sorry for calling the cops...
I AGREE, but to me it DEPENDS on what they are calling HEAVY METAL! I'm a ROCKER, & I like CERTAIN METAL, however I've HEARD some truly EVIL bands through the years, because I had FRIENDS that were into it! BELIEVE it or not, there were MANY EUROPEAN "metal" bands that ENCOURAGE VIOLENCE & EVIL! I can't speak for everyone, though I'm NOT perfect, I'm a CHRISTIAN, I used to have FRIENDS that WERE super FAR FROM GOOD!
I believe it. One needs be careful nowadays.
As a fan of "dark arts," my typical response to people I dislike and situations I dislike is to confine myself in my room and listen to copious amounts loud music, blog, and watch anime. The only harm being done is the lack of Vitamin D my skin gets from sunlight. Very frightening and evil indeed. I'm just a real lazy evil person. That must be it.
I think people want to know WHY. They tend to latch onto convenient reasons--whether the reasons make sense or not--and go from there. Blaming Stephen King or rock music is convenient, especially if you are ignorant of what they really are.
It's human nature to select a scapegoat. Watch out for blamers.
No kidding! The computer police would have to break down my door and drag me away in handcuffs! (what would the neighbours say - oh my)
While these kids are usually mentally disturbed, some kids are also just morons who like to copy what gets attention. There was an horrific case in England recently where a teacher was stabbed to death in a classroom by a 15 year pupil, and within a week there have 2 plots by kids to kill thier teacher foiled by police - one of them was 2 10 or 11 year olds planning to poison a teacher with bleach.
In the case of the "planned poison of a teacher with bleach", it would seem not be as serious as it first sounds with no police action being taken.
Here is the link to the news report in the local paper for anyone interested.
Boys, 10, spiked teacher's coffee (From The Oxford Times)
Yep. In a 'faith' school, at that (Roman Catholic). To top it all off, the teacher shouldn't have been there. She was semi-retired, due to retire fully later in the year after umpteen years in the profession and at that school, and had gone in on one of her days off to help her class prepare for their final GCSE exams.
By all accounts she was a good teacher who everyone liked, but someone sure as hell didn't. Why? Time will tell.
I'm willing to bet there's the usual stuff about music, video games, movies and books trotted out, and it all always ignores the elephant in the room - that society itself needs to be looked at.
It was/is the same with football hooliganism. The argument was always that footie fans were 'animals' and didn't know how to behave, that football fanship itself was partisan by nature and the strong emotions irrationally invested in the fortunes of the club led to a tribal mindset. Which is true, but then, ultimately, that's just Nationalism on a smaller scale, and no one really bats an eyelid at strong feelings regarding nationality (though boundaries, etc, are still arbitrary; there's no physical line separating England from Scotland, for example. It's just the same dirt, stone and whatever else).
Again, the problem didn't lie in fans generally or fans of one club in particular. It became a focal point and release valve for tensions within society as a whole, and they went unaddressed. Things calmed down (though, as a long-time supporter of a local club who went to hundreds of games home and away, the risk of 'trouble' never went away; it was always there, bubbling not far under the surface), but often had little outpourings. Even then, no one saw the link between those events and what was going on within society - by and large, trouble at matches flared whenever the mood within society as a whole was dark and ugly. Racism has also flared up again, and it's being treated as a football problem (everyone branded as narrow-minded thuggish fans, regardless of individual viewpoint and ignorant of the fact that it's only ever a tiny minority of the total crowd). Society gets away scot-free again, even though the drivers for racist outpourings are evident (especially in Spain): too many people feeling too much of a pinch, desperation at their life chances dwindling away and anger at govts who seem to do nothing about it (except line their own pockets), and an apparent oversupply of cheap migrant labour who'll work longer hours for much lower pay than the indigenous population can afford to work for. (I say "apparent" because a lot of it, here at least, is media BS and scaremongering to create a false controversy. It's also being used politically in a classic case of "divide and rule" and "look what the left hand's doing. Ignore the right, nothing to see there" chicanery.)
Go back to these kids, and it's society that's to blame. They'll covet iPhones over the rights and lives of other human beings. They're focused on material things rather than what matters. That's not an argument for spiritual BS or metaphysical woo, just an observation that empty ownership and/or status symbol and wealth accumulation is prized above all else. I read a comment on a news story earlier: "Unfortunately, morality, decency, compassion and fairness don't pay the rent". So the society we have punishes positive behaviours (or virtue, if you like) and encourages immorality/amorality, indecency, indifference to others and unfairness, as these things will "pay the rent". In short, it's a supposed society that's (ironically?) chock-full of sociopaths. Which is what these kids have become.
It's not Stephen King or anyone else that's to blame for that. It's The System itself.
Mr Nobody, I don't agree. You're blaming society for the failings of a few immoral idiots. Where were the parents of these kids? Don't they bear the blame for not teaching their kids to respect others? At 10 years, the kids are old enough to understand what is right and what is not. It's not society to blame--it's the failings of the parents.