The Bloody Gall Of Them!!!!!!

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staropeace

Richard Bachman's love child
Nov 28, 2006
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This happened to an outreach worker here in Edmonton last month. When you work outreach, you do not deal with folks who live in the suburbs or folks who have big bank accounts...you deal with the streetwise....gang members, working girls, etc. Most big malls do not want the homeless around or their workers...for that matter. This poor guy was just eating a bowl of noodles .
Gary Moostoos, Aboriginal Outreach Worker, Banned From Edmonton Mall
 

hossenpepper

Don't worry. I have a permit!!!
Feb 5, 2010
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Wonderland Avenue
They are getting no help because the system is defeating them. You see this is every area of government services that deal with social issues. We complain that Social Workers aren't doing all they can to help children while we overburden them with cases and burnouts because governments prefer sinking money into sporting facilities or helping out major banks etc from going broke. They would rather donate monies to other countries than help the people here on the street...makes them more politically correct. We have so many kids in the inner cities who go to school with empty stomaches. We are taking things away from the charities and other do-gooders instead of giving them more leeway. We need kitchen table psychology and kindness ....not red tape that will choke us all. Sorry, this is my passion and I get carried away lol.
My sister in law, God lover her, is a social worker in Oklahoma. She worked for the DHS straight out of her Bachelor's program. She used the opportunity and some monies they offer for you to get your Master's. She slugged it out at DHS for 4 years and now works as a private contractor so she can pick and choose her cases, and of course with her Master's, make more per visit. She primarily manages families on welfare that have had kids either taken away and now being returned or are near to it. In than group she actually specializes in cases where there is drug abuse and often court ordered counseling and/or rehab. She has been doing it for 12 years or so, so we have been hearing the stories of what really goes on in these systems firsthand for quite awhile. What is quite clear from her is that there are people who game the system and it should be dealt with. But she also says that problem, and the problems in general with the system, are caused primarily by lack of funding. There just aren't enough bodies to handle the cases and keep tabs on progress to keep these people from backsliding and falling into addiction and poverty even further. From these broken homes it is quite common to have an older teen, but even as young as 11 or 12, as a missing runaway kid. When found they are almost always living on the streets. I think removing and streamlining regulations may [partially solve one issue, that being accessibility and availability of the services to teens on the streets. But even if you took away ALL regulations, money would still be an issue. But that problem, and the problem of the actual work being done in an effective manner both depend on the most important thing of all: giving a crap in the first place. Which sadly, many people don't.
 

hossenpepper

Don't worry. I have a permit!!!
Feb 5, 2010
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Wonderland Avenue
...why can't we just be allowed to take care of our own????...for God's sake-damn governments want to "reach out" to all the foreign lands, but screw the people living under our own bridges...guess the political equity isn't domestically great enough for them....
Quote from a social worker at a food bank at which I volunteer: "I could feed more people with the money it takes to build one of those hundreds of thousands of bombs we have than the damn thing could kill!" Pretty wise and telling statement about the state of our society.
 

staropeace

Richard Bachman's love child
Nov 28, 2006
15,210
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Alberta,Canada
My sister in law, God lover her, is a social worker in Oklahoma. She worked for the DHS straight out of her Bachelor's program. She used the opportunity and some monies they offer for you to get your Master's. She slugged it out at DHS for 4 years and now works as a private contractor so she can pick and choose her cases, and of course with her Master's, make more per visit. She primarily manages families on welfare that have had kids either taken away and now being returned or are near to it. In than group she actually specializes in cases where there is drug abuse and often court ordered counseling and/or rehab. She has been doing it for 12 years or so, so we have been hearing the stories of what really goes on in these systems firsthand for quite awhile. What is quite clear from her is that there are people who game the system and it should be dealt with. But she also says that problem, and the problems in general with the system, are caused primarily by lack of funding. There just aren't enough bodies to handle the cases and keep tabs on progress to keep these people from backsliding and falling into addiction and poverty even further. From these broken homes it is quite common to have an older teen, but even as young as 11 or 12, as a missing runaway kid. When found they are almost always living on the streets. I think removing and streamlining regulations may [partially solve one issue, that being accessibility and availability of the services to teens on the streets. But even if you took away ALL regulations, money would still be an issue. But that problem, and the problem of the actual work being done in an effective manner both depend on the most important thing of all: giving a crap in the first place. Which sadly, many people don't.
God love her! She is right about not enough workers. I have known several case workers who left because of burnout. They just couldn'nt do their job effectively because they had too many cases. The government needs to smarten up or, at least, let charities play a bigger role in decision making...cannot do too much with your hands tied.
 

hossenpepper

Don't worry. I have a permit!!!
Feb 5, 2010
12,897
32,897
Wonderland Avenue
God love her! She is right about not enough workers. I have known several case workers who left because of burnout. They just couldn'nt do their job effectively because they had too many cases. The government needs to smarten up or, at least, let charities play a bigger role in decision making...cannot do too much with your hands tied.
She was near burnout before she left DHS. Working her case load and doing her Master's work at night was a LOAD. The problem in part most certainly is mismanagement and in some areas waste. So they could restructure some of the management and expenditure protocols to streamline things, but that doesn't come close to fully addressing the lack of funding. In most cases here in the states, the DHS is a state organization that receives some federal funding, similar to Medicaid here. So the funding problems exist on both the state and federal levels. But when the political conversations here that focus on welfare are had, DHS funding is part of that when they cut funding. It's a real problem with a real solution: tax dollars. But, it's politicized and becomes a punching bag for both left and right to the detriment of the families who need a little support to get through a difficult time.
 

staropeace

Richard Bachman's love child
Nov 28, 2006
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Alberta,Canada
I have gone to city hall for council meetings with hat in hand...along with the CEO of our branch of the Salvation Army. The ignorance of some of the council members was shocking. They had no time for the streetpeople and just decided they were bums. That was in Fort McMurray. The council here in Edmonton is doing it's best to get housing for the streetpeople and it is working. Of the folks who now have shelter, there is an eighty percent sucess rate. They stay sheltered and do not return to the streets. City council is getting some to be useful in doing the cities work...like picking up trash. They are providing a springboard for them to get back in the workforce. For that I salute them. I am glad there are people like your sister-in-law. We need more folks like her. People who walk the walk.
 

mal

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Jun 23, 2007
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Now that charity has been co-opted by big business I doubt if the poor will see much. Philanthropy Incorporated is a very disturbing trend. I still give my cash to folks on the street, rather than to the corporation my company represents. Save the arguments about how it'll probably get spent on booze or drugs. Free will is free will.
 

blunthead

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Aug 2, 2006
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...why can't we just be allowed to take care of our own????...for God's sake-damn governments want to "reach out" to all the foreign lands, but screw the people living under our own bridges...guess the political equity isn't domestically great enough for them....
Foreign lands is where the cash and power are. Governments in general are not interested in the poor and powerless.
 
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