The Long Walk......

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mjs9153

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Wow, this poor guy you could see the pain on his face as he was walking.. he wasn't walking like some athletic,power walker type, he was barely putting one foot in front of the other but he was persistent. They raised over a hundred K last I saw so he should be able to afford a decent car gas insurance etc..
 

Mr Nobody

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I'm going to go against the grain here and say he's a pillock.
34km (still unsure if that's both ways or one way) each day is too far. He's probably grimacing away because his arches are finally collapsing.
It's also totally unnecessary.
1) He could work closer to home;
2) He could live closer to work;
3) He could save for a car, surely, on $10.55 an hour (or does no one in America drive if they earn that amount or less?).

Even if none of those three options are open to him - or maybe 1) is but he just really, really loves his job at that particular place (which I find strange because it's outside my own experience) - and assuming he couldn't cadge a lift from somewhere along his route, in his position surely to Christ you'd buy yourself a bike (pedal/push, not motor)?
 
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staropeace

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I'm going to go against the grain here and say he's a pillock.
34km (still unsure if that's both ways or one way) each day is too far. He's probably grimacing away because his arches are finally collapsing.
It's also totally unnecessary.
1) He could work closer to home;
2) He could live closer to work;
3) He could save for a car, surely, on $10.55 an hour (or does no one in America drive if they earn that amount or less?).

Even if none of those three options are open to him - or maybe 1) is but he just really, really loves his job at that particular place (which I find strange because it's outside my own experience) - and assuming he couldn't cadge a lift from somewhere along his route, in his position surely to Christ you'd buy yourself a bike (pedal/push, not motor)?
Good luck getting enough for a damage deposit and rent this day in that area on what he is making. Here in Canada, that is not enough wage for a roof over your head. He is probably staying where he is because he does not want a rent increase. He stays at his job because he has a work ethic.
 

Mr Nobody

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He has a work ethic. Hm-m. Implying what, pray tell? Because I could choose to make an inference.

As I said originally, though, if there really was no other alternative (i.e. he can't find alternative employment that pays the same or more than his current employer), surely he'd buy a bike and cycle to work?
It'd be quicker and better for his overall health.

As for salaries...if $10.55 an hour is based on a flat 40-hour working week, that works out to a salary of $21,944 per annum. Not enough for rented accommodation in Canada? That's insane. Not so much a case of a struggling economy facing a long haul as one that is completely and irretrievably FUBAR.
 
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staropeace

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He has a work ethic. Hm-m. Implying what, pray tell? Because I could choose to make an inference.

As I said originally, though, if there really was no other alternative (i.e. he can't find alternative employment that pays the same or more than his current employer), surely he'd buy a bike and cycle to work?
It'd be quicker and better for his overall health.

As for salaries...if $10.55 an hour is based on a flat 40-hour working week, that works out to a salary of $21,944 per annum. Not enough for rented accommodation in Canada? That's insane. Not so much a case of a struggling economy facing a long haul as one that is completely and irretrievably FUBAR.
Try Alberta where most apartments cost a least a thousand a month. I rent a house for 1750 a month. Changing living spaces in big cities is challenging in Canada and the States. This man did not ask for help. I have worked with the homeless in two cities here in Alberta...and I can salute someone like this man in Detroit for sticking with his job. It is fine sometimes to try to help folks who are really trying to work and do right.
 

mjs9153

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I watched the video,and the man was talking about how long he searched to find this job..which in America,is not really beyond bounds,as once you reach the age of forty or so,finding a job is difficult..a bike may work in certain circumstances,but in cold,icy Detroit,well, I would rather walk.I could go on,but what I am saying here,is you don't know all the circumstances,nor do I,but it seems this man wants to work,is doing his best,and I prefer to wish him well rather than pick apart what he may be doing wrong..just my two cents.. :)
 

staropeace

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He has a work ethic. Hm-m. Implying what, pray tell? Because I could choose to make an inference.

As I said originally, though, if there really was no other alternative (i.e. he can't find alternative employment that pays the same or more than his current employer), surely he'd buy a bike and cycle to work?
It'd be quicker and better for his overall health.

As for salaries...if $10.55 an hour is based on a flat 40-hour working week, that works out to a salary of $21,944 per annum. Not enough for rented accommodation in Canada? That's insane. Not so much a case of a struggling economy facing a long haul as one that is completely and irretrievably FUBAR.
As to having a work ethic, I meant that it does not seem that he would just quit this job and try to find another closer. He is probably a very dependable worker. He may have hopes in continuing here and getting a higher position with more money.
 

Mr Nobody

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Try Alberta where most apartments cost a least a thousand a month. I rent a house for 1750 a month. Changing living spaces in big cities is challenging in Canada and the States. This man did not ask for help. I have worked with the homeless in two cities here in Alberta...and I can salute someone like this man in Detroit for sticking with his job. It is fine sometimes to try to help folks who are really trying to work and do right.

Then that's nuts. Not that it's easy in the UK's big cities (and forget London; single rooms are going for £800-1000 per week in the centre, while places farther out go for around £1500-2000 a month - though they're usually not in the nicest of areas (putting it mildly) so your insurance goes through the roof).

For the work ethic thing - yes, he has one and no, he didn't ask for the help. He also didn't make life easier on himself. I don't understand why you'd walk that far, in pain, when you didn't have to. I'd expect any reasonable person to think 'If I can walk these roads, I can cycle these roads'.
And you can bet your bottom dollar that, while the corporate types are no doubt lauding his attitude and effort, saying they wish more people had his sort of determination, drive, etc, there's not a chance in Hell that they'd even consider doing the same. Which is poor leadership. You should never ask or expect someone to do what you would be unable or unwilling to attempt yourself. You can also bet your second-to-bottom dollar that what those types feel for this guy in reality is contempt. I don't hold him in contempt. I just think he's a pillock for making life that little bit harder than it needs to be.

I hereby retire and cede the floor. :smile2:
 

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Unemployment rate in Detroit is close to 15%, which is high, and it's probably even higher for unskilled workers. Jobs are hard to come by there.

I didn't read the article, but I saw the story on the news. This gentleman walks to the bus stop, takes an hour-long bus ride, then walks a number of miles to work from the bus stop. When he gets off work at midnight or 2 a.m., I forget exactly, he has to walk farther back to catch a bus because bus service is limited at that hour.

Yeah, if it were me, I'd be fishing for rides with people at work, going to rideshare on Craigslist, whatever. I would not be riding a bike at midnight or 2 a.m. over a route for several miles plus however long it takes a bus to go an hour.

But we all have different approaches. This guy has a work ethic that drives him to fend for himself, without inconveniencing others, without looking for government help, and I certainly am not going to throw stones at such an effort. I might not think it's the smartest thing, but I sure can't fault the effort.
 

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I know that there was a thread for such posts but I can not find it . . .if it pops up again . . .then this one can be one of them damn drive-by threads.

The story below made me feel real good and it's possible it's posted elsewhere on the Board. If so, then please forgive the double-ness (it is a word now)!

This man is so dedicated in making a living. Nothing stops him. I must say if someone can be that dedicated then I will support them 100%.

You see, dedication is something that I admire and will stand by. I think it's a strength that many lack. I guess it's easier to makes excuses.

There is very little that will stop me and I see that in this man.

See the Detroiter with 21-mile walking commute get a surprise new car | Motoramic - Yahoo Autos
 

FlakeNoir

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I know that there was a thread for such posts but I can not find it . . .if it pops up again . . .then this one can be one of them damn drive-by threads.

The story below made me feel real good and it's possible it's posted elsewhere on the Board. If so, then please forgive the double-ness (it is a word now)!

This man is so dedicated in making a living. Nothing stops him. I must say if someone can be that dedicated then I will support them 100%.

You see, dedication is something that I admire and will stand by. I think it's a strength that many lack. I guess it's easier to makes excuses.

There is very little that will stop me and I see that in this man.

See the Detroiter with 21-mile walking commute get a surprise new car | Motoramic - Yahoo Autos
I've just merged your double-ness (it's a good word! :) ) with another thread about this man.
 

MadamMack

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It doesn't take some people long to p*ss all over something, eh?

God bless this man.

I do believe that his plight was hard and he 'just couldn't buy a car'. I believe him more than I did the Homeless man with The Golden Voice, story.

I'm happy for him and there will always be people that will piss on the parade instead of participating. Those same people will be the first to give up when times get hard.

Smuck 'em . . .

Damn good, feel-good story to me . . .