This scares the crap out of me.....

[staropeace]

Our landlord is one of the big bosses with the fire department, I have to ask him about this. I think arsonists are the scariest creatures. Sometimes, fire fighters become arsonists, I heard. I do not know if that is just a myth. Poor buggers earn every cent they make, for sure.....firefighters not arsonists.

RCMP suspect arson is to blame for string of house fires in Spruce Grove | Alber

 

[Sigmund]

Hey, Staro.

I don't know a lot about this subject so I'm going to just throw out what I feel comfortable.

Fire-setting, arson and pyromania.

Fire-setting is just that. People who start fires without a (rational) reason-cooking, warmth, enjoying the fire (fireplace/camp fire). From what I understand fire setting is most common in children. Children are curious. They want to see what happens with a match, grass, wood. No ill intent. Fire setting is a behavior.

However, fire setting can encompass both arson and pyromania. Kinda like the first step to other more nefarious actions.

Arson is a criminal action. The fire is deliberate. The person, most likely men, set a fire for money- to collect insurance or hired by another to collect insurance money or revenge (pay back).

Pyromania is a psychiatric disorder. An impulse control disorder. Pyromaniacs, again usually men, tend to have a history of child abuse/neglect, substance abuse (parents or guardian that will extend to their own life) and poor social interaction/relationships. (You can often see the pyromaniac in the crowd that gathers at a fire. The pyromaniac needs to experience the fire/flames. The heat, sirens, fire trucks , fire fighters, the flames and smoke.) Almost forgot a BIG thing. They get sexual enjoyment and release watching the fire.
(I have also noticed true pyros have a fascination with fire at a young age that extends into adulthood AND wet the bed past the age where it's *normal*)

Firefighters or firefighter-wanna-be's will set fires to *show* how brave and competent they are in that situation.

If anything I posted here makes sense...that would be a surprise. Ha!

(BTW-If I read the article you posted correctly, it piques my interest. The fire was set with people INSIDE the residence at a time most people would know there were people inside and asleep. (Night time) That does scare me. If I had a gun to my head and I had to give an opinion? It was an arsonist. A arsonist who is pizzed with the one or more of the people in the house. )

Or I'm totally wrong. Ha!

 

[staropeace]

Hey, Staro.

I don't know a lot about this subject so I'm going to just throw out what I feel comfortable.

Fire-setting, arson and pyromania.

Fire-setting is just that. People who start fires without a (rational) reason-cooking, warmth, enjoying the fire (fireplace/camp fire). From what I understand fire setting is most common in children. Children are curious. They want to see what happens with a match, grass, wood. No ill intent. Fire setting is a behavior.

However, fire setting can encompass both arson and pyromania. Kinda like the first step to other more nefarious actions.

Arson is a criminal action. The fire is deliberate. The person, most likely men, set a fire for money- to collect insurance or hired by another to collect insurance money or revenge (pay back).

Pyromania is a psychiatric disorder. An impulse control disorder. Pyromaniacs, again usually men, tend to have a history of child abuse/neglect, substance abuse (parents or guardian that will extend to their own life) and poor social interaction/relationships. (You can often see the pyromaniac in the crowd that gathers at a fire. The pyromaniac needs to experience the fire/flames. The heat, sirens, fire trucks , fire fighters, the flames and smoke.) Almost forgot a BIG thing. They get sexual enjoyment and release watching the fire.
(I have also noticed true pyros have a fascination with fire at a young age that extends into adulthood AND wet the bed past the age where it's *normal*)

Firefighters or firefighter-wanna-be's will set fires to *show* how brave and competent they are in that situation.

If anything I posted here makes sense...that would be a surprise. Ha!

(BTW-If I read the article you posted correctly, it piques my interest. The fire was set with people INSIDE the residence at a time most people would know there were people inside and asleep. (Night time) That does scare me. If I had a gun to my head and I had to give an opinion? It was an arsonist. A arsonist who is pizzed with the one or more of the people in the house. )

Or I'm totally wrong. Ha!

You are basically talking about the Holy Trinity that we studied to abnormal psych. Firestarting, bed-wetting and cruelty to animals. Red flags when they are observed all together, eh?

 

[CoriSCapnSkip]

There has been a string of unexplained fires in my town but they can't have been set by firefighters wanting work as our fire department is all volunteer!

 

[staropeace]

There has been a string of unexplained fires in my town but they can't have been set by firefighters wanting work as our fire department is all volunteer!

I do not really believe fire fighters would start fires for work lol. I think some of the wrong people may be attracked to the job because they are fascinated with fire. I think some bad cops are attracted to their jobs because they are fascinated with power. On the whole, most responders of any kind are wonderful people who care about society.

 

[Sigmund]

You are basically talking about the Holy Trinity that we studied to abnormal psych. Firestarting, bed-wetting and cruelty to animals. Red flags when they are observed all together, eh?

Yes!!! (You figured out what the he11 I was trying to say. ) Serial killers tend to have the holy trinity/tri fecta . Arsonists and pyro's don't (usually) have the cruelty to animals pathology.

One thing I read when studying this:

Arsonist : I want to set the world on fire.
Pyro: I want to see it burn.

Scary chit.

 

[staropeace]

Yes!!! (You figured out what the he11 I was trying to say. ) Serial killers tend to have the holy trinity/tri fecta . Arsonists and pyro's don't (usually) have the cruelty to animals pathology.

One thing I read when studying this:

Arsonist : I want to set the world on fire.
Pyro: I want to see it burn.

Scary chit.

Tis

 

[Sigmund]

There has been a string of unexplained fires in my town but they can't have been set by firefighters wanting work as our fire department is all volunteer!

I think I understand what you are saying. Volunteer fire fighters would not set fires because they are volunteers. But what if a volunteer fire fighter wants to be a *real* fire fighter and sets fires to show how *intelligent* *intuitive* and competent they are as fire fighters? Be accepted as a *real* fire fighter* and get a job ?

Just saying.

 

[GNTLGNT]

Our landlord is one of the big bosses with the fire department, I have to ask him about this. I think arsonists are the scariest creatures. Sometimes, fire fighters become arsonists, I heard. I do not know if that is just a myth. Poor buggers earn every cent they make, for sure.....firefighters not arsonists.

RCMP suspect arson is to blame for string of house fires in Spruce Grove | Alber

 

[AnnaMarie]

I think I understand what you are saying. Volunteer fire fighters would not set fires because they are volunteers. But what if a volunteer fire fighter wants to be a *real* fire fighter and sets fires to show how *intelligent* *intuitive* and competent they are as fire fighters? Be accepted as a *real* fire fighter* and get a job ?

Just saying.

Here, when out on a call, the volunteers are paid.

But when firefighters set fires, it's not about money. It's about being a hero, or showing intelligence in figuring out the cause.

 

[Sigmund]

Here, when out on a call, the volunteers are paid.

But when firefighters set fires, it's not about money. It's about being a hero, or showing intelligence in figuring out the cause.

Yes! Thank you, AnnaMarie.

I think about it like the nurse angels of death. Like Genene Jones. (She was one messed up human being.To say the least.)

 

[mjs9153]

Here, when out on a call, the volunteers are paid.

But when firefighters set fires, it's not about money. It's about being a hero, or showing intelligence in figuring out the cause.

You are absolutely right, we had one in my city that a volunteer set, and it went wrong, he ended up killing three people.. He wasn't trying to kill them, he was trying to be a hero.. I hope he's still in jail,but in my state,he is probably free by now..

 

[Debbie913]

I hope they find out who's doing this and put a stop to it, Ms. staropeace. Stay safe up there! It really is very scary.

It's true that people who should really know better and understand the dangers, set fires anyway. They might mean no harm at the time, but fire has a mind of it's own and often gets out of control. In 2002, a woman that worked as a forestry technician with the U.S. Forest Service, started a fire here in Colorado that got totally out of control, and was one of the biggest ever here. One person died from smoke inhalation and five firefighters died in a car accident. The woman wound up with probation and community service. I thought she deserved a stiffer punishment.
Hayman Fire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[CoriSCapnSkip]

I think I understand what you are saying. Volunteer fire fighters would not set fires because they are volunteers. But what if a volunteer fire fighter wants to be a *real* fire fighter and sets fires to show how *intelligent* *intuitive* and competent they are as fire fighters? Be accepted as a *real* fire fighter* and get a job ?

Just saying.

I don't know whether our volunteers are paid or not (I posted on the assumption that they are not), but anyone in a community with an all-volunteer fire department wanting to be a "real" firefighter would doubtless move to another community!