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Kurben

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Don't laugh, but I loved the series titled, "Lois Lane: Superman's Girlfriend." I also read many Batman comics growing up. He's my favorite because he's just a regular guy with no super powers, like most of the others have.
Never even heard of that series!! But i do like me some Batman. Even if old Spidey probably is my fave. I like his humor and that he, in spite of his superpowers, grapples just as much with money problems, girlfriend problems, friendship problems and so on. And then of course both Batman and Spidey have great villains to fight against.
 

muskrat

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Most modern comics are rip offs of what?

My wallet. It takes, like, five minutes to read the average modern comic. An average two-four panels per page, no narrative boxes, no thought balloons--it's like they're trying to do away with words completely. I ain't getting my money's worth, bub.

Like, I dug the whole 'Before Watchman' line DC put out a coupla years ago--some interesting stuff, but, yeesh, to read all the Rorschach books takes, maybe, fifteen minutes. Even in the collected trade form, these glorified picture books just leave me feeling cheated.

Maybe I'm just old and sodded. I dunno. Just gimme an old Alan Moore Swamp Thing, or some imaginative nine-panel Ditko page grids, and I'm a happy camper. Gimme a text-heavy EC Haunt of Fear tale, or a trippy Steve Gerber yarn. Gimme some blessed, aromatic newsprint, aye, let me stick my snozz between the pages and inhale four-color history. It's like listening to the Stones on vinyl, or drinking Coca Cola from the little green bottles.

But that's just me.
 

Doc Creed

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My wallet. It takes, like, five minutes to read the average modern comic. An average two-four panels per page, no narrative boxes, no thought balloons--it's like they're trying to do away with words completely. I ain't getting my money's worth, bub.

Like, I dug the whole 'Before Watchman' line DC put out a coupla years ago--some interesting stuff, but, yeesh, to read all the Rorschach books takes, maybe, fifteen minutes. Even in the collected trade form, these glorified picture books just leave me feeling cheated.

Maybe I'm just old and sodded. I dunno. Just gimme an old Alan Moore Swamp Thing, or some imaginative nine-panel Ditko page grids, and I'm a happy camper. Gimme a text-heavy EC Haunt of Fear tale, or a trippy Steve Gerber yarn. Gimme some blessed, aromatic newsprint, aye, let me stick my snozz between the pages and inhale four-color history. It's like listening to the Stones on vinyl, or drinking Coca Cola from the little green bottles.

But that's just me.
Good point. Excellent writing.
 

Kingunlucky

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My wallet. It takes, like, five minutes to read the average modern comic. An average two-four panels per page, no narrative boxes, no thought balloons--it's like they're trying to do away with words completely. I ain't getting my money's worth, bub.

Like, I dug the whole 'Before Watchman' line DC put out a coupla years ago--some interesting stuff, but, yeesh, to read all the Rorschach books takes, maybe, fifteen minutes. Even in the collected trade form, these glorified picture books just leave me feeling cheated.

Maybe I'm just old and sodded. I dunno. Just gimme an old Alan Moore Swamp Thing, or some imaginative nine-panel Ditko page grids, and I'm a happy camper. Gimme a text-heavy EC Haunt of Fear tale, or a trippy Steve Gerber yarn. Gimme some blessed, aromatic newsprint, aye, let me stick my snozz between the pages and inhale four-color history. It's like listening to the Stones on vinyl, or drinking Coca Cola from the little green bottles.

But that's just me.

Ahhhh rip off money wise? Yeah I agree XD That's why I buy them in collected editions. At least you get a nearly book-length set of comics for about fifteen bucks. If I was a rich man though I'd only ever mostly buy omnibuses.

They are so pretty and such massive tomes.

As I said though to each his own and I'm right there with ya. I may not have been around back in the day, but drinking coke out of glass bottles is delicious (well, Pepsi anyway. Coke doesn't have a glass bottles around anymore) and I do love the rolling stones better than most modern bands! But I'd be remised a bit if I didn't defend my generation's writing and artwork in the field of comics and point out the good. It is my duty as a young man of the time he was born! ;)
 

skimom2

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I hadn't read anything by Hornby, and read "Funny Girl" first. It was okay, kind of just fluffy. Which one is your favorite, skimom?
Probably About A Boy or Juliet, Naked. Tough call, though, because I also liked High Fidelity and How To Be Good--lol. It is quite a bit like chick lit--I think it was in vogue to call it 'lad lit' for a while--but with a very definite British bent. IMO, much better than American chick lit. More humor, more realistic.
 

skimom2

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My wallet. It takes, like, five minutes to read the average modern comic. An average two-four panels per page, no narrative boxes, no thought balloons--it's like they're trying to do away with words completely. I ain't getting my money's worth, bub.

Like, I dug the whole 'Before Watchman' line DC put out a coupla years ago--some interesting stuff, but, yeesh, to read all the Rorschach books takes, maybe, fifteen minutes. Even in the collected trade form, these glorified picture books just leave me feeling cheated.

Maybe I'm just old and sodded. I dunno. Just gimme an old Alan Moore Swamp Thing, or some imaginative nine-panel Ditko page grids, and I'm a happy camper. Gimme a text-heavy EC Haunt of Fear tale, or a trippy Steve Gerber yarn. Gimme some blessed, aromatic newsprint, aye, let me stick my snozz between the pages and inhale four-color history. It's like listening to the Stones on vinyl, or drinking Coca Cola from the little green bottles.

But that's just me.
Not much story--that's the problem. It's all visual. Meh. I get bored with a lot of modern comics, or at least disassociated with the characters. There's not much to connect with.
 

Kingunlucky

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I wonder if I'll hate the comics of the future when I'm in my late thirties to early fifties. I like the writing in modern comics. I like them in old to, but I find from late seventies and really into the 80s to now the writing got a lot more concise and realistic. The dialogue might lesser, but its sharper, more polished, concise and so on. Older comics (30s to 60s) writing can be a little bit hokey. I'm not saying that is a bad thing. It is that sweet buttery kinda cheesy, but it can sound a read a bit off even compared to books written around the same time. Comics are a visual medium just as much as a text one and sometimes less is more in certain regards.

Older comics can also be overly verbose. Now, there is nothing wrong with good vocabulary and being verbose - most of all in the novel form. Stephen King has a gift with words, but you can tell a lot in a visual medium by having a character frown or cry without any words or a character make a painful expression with only a 'gnk' or 'gah' instead of talking about it in a text balloon and then crying.

The more modern you go the more the writing in comics starts to sound the way people actually talk in my opinion. I may feel differently in thirty years or so.

But here check this.....

Basically the same scene in some respects

Doom vs Beyonder(s)

Secret Wars- 1985

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Compared with Secret Wars- 2015

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So, see? Both versions are Doom confronting the Beyonder(s)

Both are equally good I'd say in some respect.

1980s-The first/older comic shows how insane and power hungry Doom is with a lot of very high class very verbose dialogue. He's screaming and shouting charging head first (cause he stole Galactus's power) and its a mighty show of force and defiance.

2015- It is shorter in dialogue from Doom, but think about how much those panels are showing us about the character and what's around him. The beyonders are reality changers, they bend universes, and are all powerful. What do the panels show you I. Doom. Those two short words tell you a lot about him and also leaves mystery for further characterization down the line. It shows you he's defiant in the face of forces beyond him and he would dare stand against them.

And my final point is! Doom is bad a motherfudger from the 60s till now. ;)
 

muskrat

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Coke doesn't have a glass bottles around anymore) ;)

I can get the little glass bottle Cokes from a couple local mini-marts around here, and, a'yuh, that's good sodie-pop. I don't know why it tastes so much better that way, but it does. Trouble is, they're, like, a buck fifty per six-ounce bottle, as opposed to a buck nineteen for a twenty-ounce plastic (?!?). Ah, but once you drink one (especially ice-cold on a hot summer day), brother, you know where that extra money went.

Oh, and as for Modern Comics? Here's my favorite:

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Heh heh, get it?
 

kingricefan

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Ahhhh rip off money wise? Yeah I agree XD That's why I buy them in collected editions. At least you get a nearly book-length set of comics for about fifteen bucks. If I was a rich man though I'd only ever mostly buy omnibuses.

They are so pretty and such massive tomes.

As I said though to each his own and I'm right there with ya. I may not have been around back in the day, but drinking coke out of glass bottles is delicious (well, Pepsi anyway. Coke doesn't have a glass bottles around anymore) and I do love the rolling stones better than most modern bands! But I'd be remised a bit if I didn't defend my generation's writing and artwork in the field of comics and point out the good. It is my duty as a young man of the time he was born! ;)
I can get the little glass bottle Cokes from a couple local mini-marts around here, and, a'yuh, that's good sodie-pop. I don't know why it tastes so much better that way, but it does. Trouble is, they're, like, a buck fifty per six-ounce bottle, as opposed to a buck nineteen for a twenty-ounce plastic (?!?). Ah, but once you drink one (especially ice-cold on a hot summer day), brother, you know where that extra money went.

Oh, and as for Modern Comics? Here's my favorite:

743289.jpg

Heh heh, get it?
Out here they've been selling Coke in glass bottles that's made with real sugar instead of high fructose corn syrup. It's the way it used to be made. The bottles come from Mexico and are about $1.25 each, but it's d*mn good!
 

Doc Creed

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Out here they've been selling Coke in glass bottles that's made with real sugar instead of high fructose corn syrup. It's the way it used to be made. The bottles come from Mexico and are about $1.25 each, but it's d*mn good!
We have them here, too, but in older institutions like the old-fashioned hair salon and the local mechanic's garage. The taste is decidedly different and refreshing.
 

morgan

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Out here they've been selling Coke in glass bottles that's made with real sugar instead of high fructose corn syrup. It's the way it used to be made. The bottles come from Mexico and are about $1.25 each, but it's d*mn good!
I first saw the bottled Coke from Mexico a few years ago at a pizza restaurant. The person I was dining with ordered it and really liked it too. Noticed a while ago that Pepsi was doing some "throwback" sodas with sugar instead of HFCS too. :thumbs_up:
 
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