Wonder Woman is Violent Now

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Shoesalesman

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Man, this is getting weird. I understand being cautious of negative influences on kids, but I think this is going overboard. What's going to happen when we un-shrink-wrap our kids after grade 12 and send them into a world where nothing really is 'completely' banned? Going from a very controlled system to one of over-exposure to basically everything seems to be doing them a disservice, in my opinion anyway.
 

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Man, this is getting weird. I understand being cautious of negative influences on kids, but I think this is going overboard. What's going to happen when we un-shrink-wrap our kids after grade 12 and send them into a world where nothing really is 'completely' banned? Going from a very controlled system to one of over-exposure to basically everything seems to be doing them a disservice, in my opinion anyway.

What's going to happen is already happening.

One of my production employees was recently counseled by human resources for "creating a hostile work environment."

What had he done, you ask?

He asked a 34-year-old man to stop playing with his phone and do his job.

Granted, it's a different scenario, but the problem is the same.

We're creating a generation that honestly believes it should never get negative feedback of any kind, and that whatever it accomplishes is "the best it can do."

It's troubling.
 

danie

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What's going to happen is already happening.

One of my production employees was recently counseled by human resources for "creating a hostile work environment."

What had he done, you ask?

He asked a 34-year-old man to stop playing with his phone and do his job.

Granted, it's a different scenario, but the problem is the same.

We're creating a generation that honestly believes it should never get negative feedback of any kind, and that whatever it accomplishes is "the best it can do."

It's troubling.
When I taught in a different school system (elementary, different county), the administration made the PE teacher quit playing games that were competitive where an individual or team actually won a game. They said it made some kids feel bad.
Duh, and sometimes if you feel bad for losing, that makes you try harder to win the next time. About that same time, sports teams started giving trophies to everyone who participated, not just the ones who'd done something above and beyond. So now that everyone's special, no one is.
So ridiculous.
 

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...Kind of a Betty Page look-a-like....or vice-versa....
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You'll poke yer eye out, Kid

Oh Nadine - yer nutz :adoration::yes_pig::haha::rofl:
 

Neesy

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Man, this is getting weird. I understand being cautious of negative influences on kids, but I think this is going overboard. What's going to happen when we un-shrink-wrap our kids after grade 12 and send them into a world where nothing really is 'completely' banned? Going from a very controlled system to one of over-exposure to basically everything seems to be doing them a disservice, in my opinion anyway.
Like sending lambs to the slaughter?
 

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When I taught in a different school system (elementary, different county), the administration made the PE teacher quit playing games that were competitive where an individual or team actually won a game. They said it made some kids feel bad.
Duh, and sometimes if you feel bad for losing, that makes you try harder to win the next time. About that same time, sports teams started giving trophies to everyone who participated, not just the ones who'd done something above and beyond. So now that everyone's special, no one is.
So ridiculous.
...sweetie, that line about everyone being special so no one is...is pure genius!...
 

danie

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...sweetie, that line about everyone being special so no one is...is pure genius!...
It's the truth! Let's make everyone the best! No hurt feelings, no stand-out talent, no rewarding someone for being 'better' at anything.
Then they get out in the real world, and have to go to therapy when they find out they weren't nearly as special as everyone made them out to be.
 

AnnaMarie

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I worked in the lunch program of a school during the first Power Rangers craze. In my own home, I did not allow my boys to watch that show because they imitated it and that behaviour is not allowed in my home.

At school, I cannot count the number of kids sent to the office for rough play, or the staff room for ice due to rough play, from kids imitating Power Rangers. Almost always, it was kids wearing the shirt or carrying the back pack or lunch bag that played Power Ranger. And as often as not, it was an innocent bystander needing ice.

The school in the post about the Wonder Woman lunch box bans ALL the superhero clothing and accessories. Like all vigilantes...they are violent. And they operate outside the law. No need to worry about trivial little things like "evidence".

I don't object to all superhero shows...can't actually think of any I think should be banned. All things in moderation. :) But I can completely understand a school not allowing it.
 

danie

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I worked in the lunch program of a school during the first Power Rangers craze. In my own home, I did not allow my boys to watch that show because they imitated it and that behaviour is not allowed in my home.

At school, I cannot count the number of kids sent to the office for rough play, or the staff room for ice due to rough play, from kids imitating Power Rangers. Almost always, it was kids wearing the shirt or carrying the back pack or lunch bag that played Power Ranger. And as often as not, it was an innocent bystander needing ice.

The school in the post about the Wonder Woman lunch box bans ALL the superhero clothing and accessories. Like all vigilantes...they are violent. And they operate outside the law. No need to worry about trivial little things like "evidence".

I don't object to all superhero shows...can't actually think of any I think should be banned. All things in moderation. :) But I can completely understand a school not allowing it.

To me, saying superheros are violent is like saying the police are violent. Most superheroes don't commit violence to be wicked, but do so to save us mortals from further violence. Besides, what would I do with all my superhero t-shirts if I couldn't wear them at school? :)
 

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To me, saying superheros are violent is like saying the police are violent. Most superheroes don't commit violence to be wicked, but do so to save us mortals from further violence. Besides, what would I do with all my superhero t-shirts if I couldn't wear them at school? :)

The difference between the good guys and the bad guys is often only who they are fighting. This is timely to my point.

'Dark Knight' fan theory paints The Joker as a misunderstood hero

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Police operate within the law. They require a reasonable amount if evidence before they can go searching a home, or making an arrest. Superheroes don't.

And I do not object to kids watching them. I just understand why a school would ban the stuff.
 

danie

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The difference between the good guys and the bad guys is often only who they are fighting. This is timely to my point.

'Dark Knight' fan theory paints The Joker as a misunderstood hero

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Police operate within the law. They require a reasonable amount if evidence before they can go searching a home, or making an arrest. Superheroes don't.

And I do not object to kids watching them. I just understand why a school would ban the stuff.
But, AnnaMarie, Batman is so cool!
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When I taught in a different school system (elementary, different county), the administration made the PE teacher quit playing games that were competitive where an individual or team actually won a game. They said it made some kids feel bad.
Duh, and sometimes if you feel bad for losing, that makes you try harder to win the next time. About that same time, sports teams started giving trophies to everyone who participated, not just the ones who'd done something above and beyond. So now that everyone's special, no one is.
So ridiculous.

I cheered this. I played sports growing up.

Steelers linebacker James Harrison will give back trophies sons received for ‘nothing’ - National | Globalnews.ca

Harrison wrote while he’s very proud of his two boys – who are both in elementary school – “these trophies will be given back until they EARN a real trophy.”

“I’m sorry I’m not sorry for believing that everything in life should be earned and I’m not about to raise two boys to be men by making them believe that they are entitled to something just because they tried their best,” the 37-year-old wrote.
 

AnnaMarie

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But, AnnaMarie, Batman is so cool!
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He is. :)

And my house still has loads of TMNT stuff. Two of my kids watched that show and had all the little characters and vehicles. Including Casey and his baseball bat.

I think parents need to step in when their own children become violent imitating these shows and either say no, or cut back the amount of time. For my kids, that meant they were not allowed Power Rangers. For another kid, it might be TMNT.

But I do NOT think any of those shows, or even video games, should be banned from everyone.

I would never have initiated any kind of ban at the school. I'm only saying that I can understand this one.
 

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Meh - this is just a case of someone who doesn't understand what Political Correctness actually is. Being PC always gets a bad rap because of people that just don't understand it.

Without political correctness we wouldn't have (or be working slowly towards) gender, ethnic and social equality. What it isn't is pre-emptively banning things on the off chance something might offend someone at some point. News flash something always will.

It is about making sure that things that are deliberately offensive are not acceptable.

Though I suppose you could argue that a female superhero who is also curvy and semi naked most of the time isn't the best female role model. Then again, neither are most females in popular culture. With the exception of Dana Scully.
 

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AnnaMarie

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Meh - this is just a case of someone who doesn't understand what Political Correctness actually is. Being PC always gets a bad rap because of people that just don't understand it.

What does PC have to do with this? The letter clearly states they do not allow images of characters that solve problems using violence. And superheroes do.
 

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What does PC have to do with this? The letter clearly states they do not allow images of characters that solve problems using violence. And superheroes do.[/QUOTE

If you follow the logic of any of that letter then the majority of all kids characters cannot be shown. Harry Potter? Nope. Superheroes? No.

Some sports stars? Maybe as long as it isn't boxing. Or they don't foul anyone.

My point is that it is a ridiculous policy. Education is about informing children about violence. Not being stupid. So yes, I consider that a mistaken form of political correctness.
 
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