Article Regarding: Guns (an Essay By Stephen King)

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M&P15

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I didn't endorse nor speculate why. It's a long accepted sentiment based on psychological and cognitive reasoning studies. It's not theory, it's an observation. A theory would be the proven results of a hypothesis. In this case, perhaps that might be the hypothetical that being more educated makes you see more angles of a topic because you've developed better problem solving skills. Or something like that.

I further said that in my anecdotal experience, from talking to other fans of famour authors (including SK), the general consensus is they tend to be more progressive. That is also not a theory. It's my personal observation. Not scientific by any means. I can't talk to every single person here or in any writers group of fans.

I have not found that to be the case.
 

hossenpepper

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Glorifies is not the same as endorses. Please try to limit the discussion to what I actually say, and not to things you make up and attribute to me. Thanks.
Oh please, give us your special definition of glorifying something. Not the one where you are saying something is OK or good by making it look attractive. Not that one, because that is the same thing as endorsing something. No, please give us YOUR SPECIAL definition that somehow makes you look better in your eyes...
 

Sundrop

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I like daisies...... these make me happy.
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Carry on.
 

DiO'Bolic

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Oh please, give us your special definition of glorifying something. Not the one where you are saying something is OK or good by making it look attractive. Not that one, because that is the same thing as endorsing something. No, please give us YOUR SPECIAL definition that somehow makes you look better in your eyes...
Best explained by example. Take the movie Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid for example. Does it glorify the pair? Yes. Did the writers and actors make money off it? Yes. Do the writers and actors endorse murder and robbery? No.
 

hossenpepper

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Best explained by example. Take the movie Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid for example. Does it glorify the pair? Yes. Did the writers and actors make money off it? Yes. Do the writers and actors endorse murder and robbery? No.
How do you know? Did you ask them? Did they write an essay and tell you?

I saw the movie and thought that was terrible and showed how awful criminals are. So not sure what movie you were watching. :)
 

Sundrop

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I do too, but REAL daisies. And by that I mean a witty, no BS, hair cutting North Carolina daisy! Do you know any of those? :)
Yes, I do know one of those.....I see her often whenever I look in the mirror!! :biggrin2:

I didn't mean to interrupt your debate......I'll go back to the sidelines now, and judge quietly....... :love:
 
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Sundrop

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Oh you weren't interrupting anything. We need more daisies around here.

Chicken!! :p
Haha!.....I'm not a chicken......and I think that I might have been slightly insulted, apparently just because I'm a member here.....but to be fair, I'm going back to read the previous postings in their entirety......so I can be certain.
 
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M&P15

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Anyone interested in steering this to something useful?
Who here is under the impression that we don't have background checks for firearms purchase?
 

DiO'Bolic

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How do you know? Did you ask them? Did they write an essay and tell you?

I saw the movie and thought that was terrible and showed how awful criminals are. So not sure what movie you were watching. :)
The movie that was the top grossing one of the year, and ranks among the 100 top-grossing movies of all time? The movie that won four Academy Awards: Best Cinematography; Best Original Score for a Motion Picture (not a Musical); Best Music, Song (Burt Bacharach and Hal David for "Raindrops Keep Fallin' on My Head"); and Best Writing, Story and Screenplay Based on Material Not Previously Published or Produced; was also nominated for Best Director, Best Picture, and Best Sound (William Edmondson and David Dockendorf); won numerous British Academy Film Awards, including Best Film, Best Direction, Best Screenplay, Best Cinematography, Best Actor for Redford, and Best Actress for Katharine Ross, and William Goldman won the Writers Guild of America Award for Best Original Screenplay; and in 2003, the film was selected for preservation in the United States National Film Registry by the Library of Congress as being "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant"? That one? :)
 

hossenpepper

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The movie that got was the top grossing one of the year, and ranks among the 100 top-grossing movies of all time. The movie that won four Academy Awards: Best Cinematography; Best Original Score for a Motion Picture (not a Musical); Best Music, Song (Burt Bacharach and Hal David for "Raindrops Keep Fallin' on My Head"); and Best Writing, Story and Screenplay Based on Material Not Previously Published or Produced; was also nominated for Best Director, Best Picture, and Best Sound (William Edmondson and David Dockendorf); won numerous British Academy Film Awards, including Best Film, Best Direction, Best Screenplay, Best Cinematography, Best Actor for Redford, and Best Actress for Katharine Ross, and William Goldman won the Writers Guild of America Award for Best Original Screenplay; and in 2003, the film was selected for preservation in the United States National Film Registry by the Library of Congress as being "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant"? That one? :)
Yeah and?

Doesn't mean it glorified (endorsed) anything. It was a story that included violence as part of the story. The glorification took place in your head. The next guy could see it as an argument against glorified violence or an expression of how it destroys society. So many ways a piece of art can be taken. But the true test of the intent is the comment of the author. Which we've now gotten from a trusted source and thus declared your PREMISE wrong.