Steve's Explanation For Loser's Sex Scene
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We all have different views on this topic, some of which are impassioned as yours, but we all manage to give them while respecting each other. We don't need someone who hasn't even been here a whole week lecturing everyone or flinging out insults.
A reader can like or dislike certain factor within any book/ story. However, those can be expressed in a respectful manner. Your tone was disrespectful.
ah . . .the arrival of new "fans" who come in swinging. what a breath of fresh air you are. /s
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Out of curiosity, did you join up to the site just to share that view?
O.k. Sounds like you are not a fan of Stephen king, or perhaps just this book. That's o.k. You are allowed your own opinion
He's allowed his opinion; no one said otherwise. He's not allowed to disrespect other members just for the sake of being crass.
Spidey didn't deserve to be talked to like that.
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You can like or dislike the scene. That is your choice. But to be disrespectful against people that dont share your views is bad. To be, as in your case, intentionally disrespectful (which you said in your second post) is even worse. We on this community share a bond even if we are of many different opinions, especially regarding this scene. We still respect eachother and dont try to degrade and insult other members. English is a language full of possibilies and it is actually rather easy to express ones opinions without insulting other people. Oh, and by the way i totally disagree with on the scene but thats not the point right now. If youre interested in my views, which i doubt, you can find them in the thread.
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It is my favorite work by our beloved author, but I've never been comfortable with that scene. However, my view of it is a heck of a lot more simplistic than some of the stuff I've read here. Forgive me, but I haven't read every response so if I'm duplicating what somebody has already said, my apologies.
I don't see it as a magical act. I look at this scene as a means to help the kids remember. As they're leaving the sewers, the kids are already starting to forget the events they experienced. I'm pretty sure that if you ask anyone, and I mean anyone, who the first person was that they had sex with, they'll remember. I know I do. I think Beverly's decision to instigate this act was to ensure that while they might forget everything else, they'll always be able to recall who their first was.
I don't see it as a magical act. I look at this scene as a means to help the kids remember. As they're leaving the sewers, the kids are already starting to forget the events they experienced. I'm pretty sure that if you ask anyone, and I mean anyone, who the first person was that they had sex with, they'll remember. I know I do. I think Beverly's decision to instigate this act was to ensure that while they might forget everything else, they'll always be able to recall who their first was.
A nice thought. You do remember your first. But in IT they do forget. Bev is shocked when she remembers later on. So in the book they do forget. That does not invalidate your thought for the basis for Bevs decision in the sewers. I still kind of think it had to do with quelling the panic that started to rise to the surface through an act of bonding them all. It is my fave book too!!
Great point. And my theory of remembering your first only really works from an adult's perspective. You wouldn't necessarily think along those lines when you're a kid. Oh Mr. King, couldn't you have come up with a better option? Just kidding.
Just wanted to add my two cents what with the remake of the film coming out. (sorry, I am not hopeful it will be good. I fear their will be so many political/social motifs shoehorned into the script)
But about the book, just as many others have, I read it when I was in my teens. It was funny that my parents said "no you can't watch X-files because it is too scary" but this book slipped past their radar. I am 100% positive they would not let me read this book if they knew about this scene.
Personally, considering I have never had sex, I am surprised I always viewed this scene as an important way to hold onto their sanity, and not something to be aroused by. So I definitely would agree with anybody here saying that it has to do with magic + helping them keep their adult-like minds at least until they make it out of the sewers.
But to the people whinging about it being porn, and "completely unnecessary", I can only hope future generations can learn from your misguided views. We currently live in one of the most regressive time periods in history with regards to how we treat teens that are sexually mature. You can see all the stories in other posts here for yourself. When kids are in puberty, they aren't perfect angels with asexual thoughts. Whether a 12 year old girl has full on sex with her peers, or simply plays some type of "touch" game, it shouldn't shock you that this can happen. Does this mean I want more kids doing what Beverly did? No. But not because of uptight conservative reasons. I don't want it simply because our society is very dumb right now about this topic. The last thing I want for a 12 year old girl are tons of psychologists/cops/parents brainwashing her into being a victim. Can you imagine how twisted Beverly might have been if she escaped the sewers to only be called "slut" or "victim" for the rest of her life?
Here is an interesting question though. If this book were real, and it were possible to view these events as they happened (with no danger to yourself). Would you close your eyes during this intimate scene? Or would you embrace it for what it is? See, this is why I like King's books. Whether he wrote this scene during his troubled years or not, it brings the elephant in the room to our attention. If we are okay with reading this scene as an adult, then why should we feel ashamed if we were to see this happen in real life? It really puts a kink in people's beliefs about adults and supposed "perverts". Maybe not all sex is about power and control? Maybe some of it is about unity and love? Maybe not all adults are evil when it comes to teenage sexuality?
But about the book, just as many others have, I read it when I was in my teens. It was funny that my parents said "no you can't watch X-files because it is too scary" but this book slipped past their radar. I am 100% positive they would not let me read this book if they knew about this scene.
Personally, considering I have never had sex, I am surprised I always viewed this scene as an important way to hold onto their sanity, and not something to be aroused by. So I definitely would agree with anybody here saying that it has to do with magic + helping them keep their adult-like minds at least until they make it out of the sewers.
But to the people whinging about it being porn, and "completely unnecessary", I can only hope future generations can learn from your misguided views. We currently live in one of the most regressive time periods in history with regards to how we treat teens that are sexually mature. You can see all the stories in other posts here for yourself. When kids are in puberty, they aren't perfect angels with asexual thoughts. Whether a 12 year old girl has full on sex with her peers, or simply plays some type of "touch" game, it shouldn't shock you that this can happen. Does this mean I want more kids doing what Beverly did? No. But not because of uptight conservative reasons. I don't want it simply because our society is very dumb right now about this topic. The last thing I want for a 12 year old girl are tons of psychologists/cops/parents brainwashing her into being a victim. Can you imagine how twisted Beverly might have been if she escaped the sewers to only be called "slut" or "victim" for the rest of her life?
Here is an interesting question though. If this book were real, and it were possible to view these events as they happened (with no danger to yourself). Would you close your eyes during this intimate scene? Or would you embrace it for what it is? See, this is why I like King's books. Whether he wrote this scene during his troubled years or not, it brings the elephant in the room to our attention. If we are okay with reading this scene as an adult, then why should we feel ashamed if we were to see this happen in real life? It really puts a kink in people's beliefs about adults and supposed "perverts". Maybe not all sex is about power and control? Maybe some of it is about unity and love? Maybe not all adults are evil when it comes to teenage sexuality?