Do you think that over time ALL of his work will be adapted to film?

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Will all his works be adapted to film or television in the long run?


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Gerald

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There are an amazing amount of adaptations of couse, varying from the very bad to very good. But there are still books (and also some of the older books) that have a hard time getting to the screen. There is the seemingly doomed Talisman, but also quite some others that haven't made it (yet) even when work had begun on some of them and they may have already had directors attached. The Long Walk, Roadwork (recently mentioned as being in development), The Eyes of the Dragon, Insomnia, Rose Madder, The Regulators, The Girl who loved Tom Gordon, Black House, From a Buick 8, Blaze, Duma Key, Joyland, Revival, Gwendy's Button Box, Elevation.

And then there are still some novellas and numerous short stories.

Do you think it's just a matter of time and that in the end they all will be filmed?
 

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My own feeling is that not all the novels will be filmed, and also not everything else. Some have taken such a long time, like The Talisman and Eyes of the Dragon, that it's hard to believe in them anymore.
As for the short stories, there are just so many. There will always be a couple that remain overlooked. And also, even from Night Shift still some haven't been done.
As for the novellas, maybe, because they have a good reputation of being adapted because of Stand by Me and Shawshank Redemption. But here too, I think most likely a couple will remain unmade.
 

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My own feeling is that not all the novels will be filmed, and also not everything else. Some have taken such a long time, like The Talisman and Eyes of the Dragon, that it's hard to believe in them anymore.
As for the short stories, there are just so many. There will always be a couple that remain overlooked. And also, even from Night Shift still some haven't been done.
As for the novellas, maybe, because they have a good reputation of being adapted because of Stand by Me and Shawshank Redemption. But here too, I think most likely a couple will remain unmade.
Even though some of the short stories won't ever see their own adaptation, the film rights are included with other projects. I'm thinking in particular of The Dark Tower which has a couple of related stories/novellas but aren't considered part of the Dark Tower series per se, e.g. The Little Sisters of Eluria. The producers don't want someone else using those stories for separate productions. Another example would be that some of the short stories might be optioned doing shows such as Castle Rock but would be adapted in such a way that they aren't individually produced.
 

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Even though some of the short stories won't ever see their own adaptation, the film rights are included with other projects. I'm thinking in particular of The Dark Tower which has a couple of related stories/novellas but aren't considered part of the Dark Tower series per se, e.g. The Little Sisters of Eluria. The producers don't want someone else using those stories for separate productions. Another example would be that some of the short stories might be optioned doing shows such as Castle Rock but would be adapted in such a way that they aren't individually produced.

Which are the related stories/novellas to the Dark Tower? I can mainly think of Little Sisters of Eluria (which they could film as Little Sister Acts of Eluria with Whoopi Goldberg although that seems unlikely) and Everything's Eventual.

Which stories were optioned for which tv shows? I haven't seen Castle Rock at all yet, but did this happen for other shows as well?
 

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Which are the related stories/novellas to the Dark Tower? I can mainly think of Little Sisters of Eluria (which they could film as Little Sister Acts of Eluria with Whoopi Goldberg although that seems unlikely) and Everything's Eventual.

Which stories were optioned for which tv shows? I haven't seen Castle Rock at all yet, but did this happen for other shows as well?
After the Play and Before the Play would be examples of extra material that would be held by Warner Bros. rights for The Shining and Doctor Sleep. The Wind Through the Keyhole would be another Dark Tower related story in addition to The Little Sisters of Eluria.

Not something I can say about the stories for TV shows as some of these are still in pre-production or negotiation and I don't know if that info is considered confidential.
 

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After the Play and Before the Play would be examples of extra material that would be held by Warner Bros. rights for The Shining and Doctor Sleep. The Wind Through the Keyhole would be another Dark Tower related story in addition to The Little Sisters of Eluria.

Not something I can say about the stories for TV shows as some of these are still in pre-production or negotiation and I don't know if that info is considered confidential.

I would have thought Wind through the Keyhole would be seen as a novel, not a story.

I wasn't aware there was also an epilogue for The Shining. As The Shining was just released here in a special limited edition, but only advertised with including the prologue - I have no idea whether it includes the epilogue as well:


 

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I would have thought Wind through the Keyhole would be seen as a novel, not a story.

I wasn't aware there was also an epilogue for The Shining. As The Shining was just released here in a special limited edition, but only advertised with including the prologue - I have no idea whether it includes the epilogue as well:


Yes, it is a novel. Was just trying to provide examples of how stories (which I meant as an all-inclusive term) that may not be considered part of the original film production could be included in film contracts. Although the public might not see an individual production of the work, it was included in film rights and the producers could use elements from the work in their film adaptations.
 

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I doubt the Breathing Method will ever be

I kind of doubt it too, but then something like the Colorado Kid seemed unlikely too. And they made it into a five season tv-series. The thing is they can always just use the story as a starting off point and make it into something quite different, the Lawnmower Man being the most extreme example probably.
 

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Yes, it is a novel. Was just trying to provide examples of how stories (which I meant as an all-inclusive term) that may not be considered part of the original film production could be included in film contracts. Although the public might not see an individual production of the work, it was included in film rights and the producers could use elements from the work in their film adaptations.

Do you know if those editions of The Shining that feature Before the Play also feature After the Play automatically? I was thinking of getting The Shining again, but if it's still missing the epilogue I'm not sure if it's worth it.
 

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Do you know if those editions of The Shining that feature Before the Play also feature After the Play automatically? I was thinking of getting The Shining again, but if it's still missing the epilogue I'm not sure if it's worth it.
They do not to the best of my knowledge. You'll need to check the edition to see what's included.
 

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They do not to the best of my knowledge. You'll need to check the edition to see what's included.

The epilogue is truly placed after the main text? Is there an indication as to the length?

They only advertise it as the first translation of 'Before the Play'. An epilogue is not mentioned at all.
I saw it at my local bookstore once, but it seems they don't have a copy anymore although it can still be ordered. It was priced immensely at first, something like 60 euro at least, but it's gone down now to 25 euro.
 

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The epilogue is truly placed after the main text? Is there an indication as to the length?

They only advertise it as the first translation of 'Before the Play'. An epilogue is not mentioned at all.
I saw it at my local bookstore once, but it seems they don't have a copy anymore although it can still be ordered. It was priced immensely at first, something like 60 euro at least, but it's gone down now to 25 euro.
There are so many different editions even with the same publishers so always best to check to make sure you're getting what you want.
 

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There are so many different editions even with the same publishers so always best to check to make sure you're getting what you want.

But when you order it in a store they usually can't tell you what's included exactly either. Perhaps I can try to mail the publisher directly if they give out that information.

I know the length of Before the Play, but is the number of pages (approximately) known of After the Play?
 

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But when you order it in a store they usually can't tell you what's included exactly either. Perhaps I can try to mail the publisher directly if they give out that information.

I know the length of Before the Play, but is the number of pages (approximately) known of After the Play?
I don't have any of that handy now that I'm working from home. If I was in the office I could look it up although page count can vary widely from manuscript to print version.
 

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I don't have any of that handy now that I'm working from home. If I was in the office I could look it up although page count can vary widely from manuscript to print version.

Yes, it can vary a lot depending how the text is printed.

The Cemetery Dance version lists it under Deleted Material, rather than making it part of the main text though and says it's four pages. Since the Dutch deluxe version doesn't mention any deleted material, I'm inclined to think it's not included.