Being Politically Correct....

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In this day and age I should think most of us (on this site, anyhoo) know how to address one another without offending. We're all a buncha readers--enlightened, thoughtful cats and kitties (no offense to the feline community, I hope).

What gets me is how some folks get all bent outta shape if you bash certain celebrities. I once made a joke about sending Sandra Bullock to the guillotine and next thing I knew they were chasing me out of town with torches and pitchforks.
 

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In this day and age I should think most of us (on this site, anyhoo) know how to address one another without offending. We're all a buncha readers--enlightened, thoughtful cats and kitties (no offense to the feline community, I hope).

What gets me is how some folks get all bent outta shape if you bash certain celebrities. I once made a joke about sending Sandra Bullock to the guillotine and next thing I knew they were chasing me out of town with torches and pitchforks.
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GNTLGNT

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In this day and age I should think most of us (on this site, anyhoo) know how to address one another without offending. We're all a buncha readers--enlightened, thoughtful cats and kitties (no offense to the feline community, I hope).

What gets me is how some folks get all bent outta shape if you bash certain celebrities. I once made a joke about sending Sandra Bullock to the guillotine and next thing I knew they were chasing me out of town with torches and pitchforks.
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Sent to a historic reenactor friend: Well, enjoy it while it's still allowed. I am reading Where the Red Fern Grows for the third time and wondering when PETA will get around to having it banned. I suppose you heard that Laura Ingalls Wilder's name was removed from a famous children's book award, her supposed offense being repeating actual things white settlers said concerning people of color during her childhood. I was accused of racism myself several times by people who saw the cover of my book and didn't read the book! I saw a very good segment on Forbidden History the other night about Native Americans, stating numerous tribes had been at war with each other for thousands of years and white settlers provided a mere temporary distraction. Only one tenth of one percent of Oregon Trail emigrants were killed by Indians attacking a wagon train. I suppose those at Whitman Mission don't count as the settlers were stopped for the winter--that is, those killed weren't driving wagons and those driving wagons at the time weren't killed. I immediately wondered, and I think I'll try to contact the show, whether they CAUGHT HELL for that!!!!!!!!!! It instantly brought to mind a little incident in St. Charles/St. Louis in September 2006. As you will recall, I made a great point of attending to try to get the bad taste from Lewiston out of my mouth. As you will also recall, the Lewis and Clark expedition was temporarily halted, both the original and the 200th reenactment, by protests, and by the same tribe both times! I was at the breakfast table with a dentist from Mississippi who portrayed Meriwether Lewis, an older Native American woman, and others. I started to say something about the Sioux being rather an aggressive tribe (which Sioux historians themselves have admitted--look up the flap about the book Hanta Yo sometime--) and the Native American woman cut me off saying they WERE NOT! Well, I didn't like to mention, so I didn't, because this particular woman happened to be Mandan, but I recalled this quote from Charlotte Black Elk on the PBS series The West: "We were a warrior society, and that's very much a part of our culture. We have an expression that whoever didn't fear us, hated us, and we took great pride in the fact that everyone either hated us or feared us. The Cree people in their stories would say, 'When the Crow were coming to fight, we sent our little boys to fight. When the Mandan were coming, we sent the old men. When the Sioux were coming, we painted our faces for death and prepared to die.'" And yet here was, not only a Native American woman, but elderly and old enough to know better, trying to tell me the Sioux WERE NOT EITHER aggressive and I'd better not say it! When the world was supposed to end seven years ago, I finally got around to reading the post-apocalyptic classic Earth Abides, by George R. Stewart, which I highly recommend. I also make a point of watching every program about lost or fallen civilizations which I can catch on TV. I attempted to watch one about the Greeks last night, I don't pretend to have caught all of it as it was one or two a.m., but I did gather that a large flowering of their culture occurred AFTER a major social collapse. I hope that either happens after I have already died or that it doesn't happen to Western Society at all (there is trouble all over Europe so it's not just a matter of America collapsing) as I don't expect to survive it, but I fear America is headed that direction and hope some of at least either the best or most characteristic ideas and culture can be preserved by whatever means. With your historical reenactment experience you have very good survival skills so if you happen to number among the survivors, please remember me, thank you.
 

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Sent to a historic reenactor friend: Well, enjoy it while it's still allowed. I am reading Where the Red Fern Grows for the third time and wondering when PETA will get around to having it banned. I suppose you heard that Laura Ingalls Wilder's name was removed from a famous children's book award, her supposed offense being repeating actual things white settlers said concerning people of color during her childhood. I was accused of racism myself several times by people who saw the cover of my book and didn't read the book! I saw a very good segment on Forbidden History the other night about Native Americans, stating numerous tribes had been at war with each other for thousands of years and white settlers provided a mere temporary distraction. Only one tenth of one percent of Oregon Trail emigrants were killed by Indians attacking a wagon train. I suppose those at Whitman Mission don't count as the settlers were stopped for the winter--that is, those killed weren't driving wagons and those driving wagons at the time weren't killed. I immediately wondered, and I think I'll try to contact the show, whether they CAUGHT HELL for that!!!!!!!!!! It instantly brought to mind a little incident in St. Charles/St. Louis in September 2006. As you will recall, I made a great point of attending to try to get the bad taste from Lewiston out of my mouth. As you will also recall, the Lewis and Clark expedition was temporarily halted, both the original and the 200th reenactment, by protests, and by the same tribe both times! I was at the breakfast table with a dentist from Mississippi who portrayed Meriwether Lewis, an older Native American woman, and others. I started to say something about the Sioux being rather an aggressive tribe (which Sioux historians themselves have admitted--look up the flap about the book Hanta Yo sometime--) and the Native American woman cut me off saying they WERE NOT! Well, I didn't like to mention, so I didn't, because this particular woman happened to be Mandan, but I recalled this quote from Charlotte Black Elk on the PBS series The West: "We were a warrior society, and that's very much a part of our culture. We have an expression that whoever didn't fear us, hated us, and we took great pride in the fact that everyone either hated us or feared us. The Cree people in their stories would say, 'When the Crow were coming to fight, we sent our little boys to fight. When the Mandan were coming, we sent the old men. When the Sioux were coming, we painted our faces for death and prepared to die.'" And yet here was, not only a Native American woman, but elderly and old enough to know better, trying to tell me the Sioux WERE NOT EITHER aggressive and I'd better not say it! When the world was supposed to end seven years ago, I finally got around to reading the post-apocalyptic classic Earth Abides, by George R. Stewart, which I highly recommend. I also make a point of watching every program about lost or fallen civilizations which I can catch on TV. I attempted to watch one about the Greeks last night, I don't pretend to have caught all of it as it was one or two a.m., but I did gather that a large flowering of their culture occurred AFTER a major social collapse. I hope that either happens after I have already died or that it doesn't happen to Western Society at all (there is trouble all over Europe so it's not just a matter of America collapsing) as I don't expect to survive it, but I fear America is headed that direction and hope some of at least either the best or most characteristic ideas and culture can be preserved by whatever means. With your historical reenactment experience you have very good survival skills so if you happen to number among the survivors, please remember me, thank you.
Okay, venting over.

GNT noted above that we are all adults here. However. If this thread goes awry I will turn it around without a second thought. ;)
 

mal

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I've always wondered why this board eventually took the 3 monkeys approach to hot button issues. After thinking about it, I thought it made sense because it would be hell on the moderators having to deal with all the petty squabbling that often turns hateful. That being said I abhor censorship and always try my best to get to the truth (beautiful or ugly). I was offended by Tery stifling Cori... and then threatening the other posters. If there was something there for much ado, then I would agree, but there was nothing.
 
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I've always wondered why this board eventually took the 3 monkeys approach to hot button issues. After thinking about it, I thought it made sense because it would be hell on the moderators having to deal with all the petty squabbling that often turns hateful. That being said I abhor censorship and always try my best to get to the truth (beautiful or ugly). I was offended by Tery stifling Cori... and then threatening the other posters. If there was something there for much ado, then I would agree, but there was nothing.
I can't remember, Mal, if you posted much in the Hot Topics or went there at all, as we know many members did not. Topics that might seem to be fairly straightforward on the surface could quickly get out of hand with opposing points of view, and not always political in nature. Cori's post is a case in point. Rather than deleting the post altogether, Cori's was allowed to stand rather than being immediately deleted but as has been our practice, all moderators give a warning that further discussion will be allowed but if it starts to go into Hot Topics territory, it will be stopped. There have been posters who have attempted to bring hot topics posts back into the mainstream portion of the Board since there is no longer an area set aside for them and we don't want that happening. I'm not saying this would have happened in this instance but all the moderators have had enough experience to see the red flags and try to be proactive rather than reactive in keeping things from getting out of hand. IMO, that is what Tery was doing.
 

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