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A lot have been remade, at least in terms of the classic ones. I don’t think you can make a legitimately serious remake out of any of the premises listed above though lol. Hey, Carpenter’s The Thing was kinda sorta a remake, although it was more of an adaptation of anything. Hm, A Creature from the Black Lagoon remake might be cool, if you could get one of the greats or up and coming promising horror directors/writers to make it. I’d love some more werewolf movies, if they were interesting, although I’ve yet to see Late Phases or Dog Soldiers, which I’ve heard are both great indie films. Although American Werewolf in London is good, a lot in it was left to be desired imo.
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A lot have been remade, at least in terms of the classic ones. I don’t think you can make a legitimately serious remake out of any of the premises listed above though lol. Hey, Carpenter’s The Thing was kinda sorta a remake, although it was more of an adaptation of anything. Hm, A Creature from the Black Lagoon remake might be cool, if you could get one of the greats or up and coming promising horror directors/writers to make it. I’d love some more werewolf movies, if they were interesting, although I’ve yet to see Late Phases or Dog Soldiers, which I’ve heard are both great indie films. Although American Werewolf in London is good, a lot in it was left to be desired imo.
Dog Soldiers, Late Phases, and lots of more cult indie horror films I want to see are on Shudder. And while I tried to do the freeloads trial, it wanted me to put my card in.... for the free trial.
 

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When it comes to AWIL, the characters aren't fleshed out enough to make the drama that gripping. The film ends too abruptly. And asides from the incredible transformation scene that was way ahead of it's time, you don't get to see him as a werewolf too much after that. I know it's both for budgetary reasons, and I know there's the rule in horror where the more the monster is obscured, the scarier they are. But that doesn't work for all films, especially this one. I do like the cool first person scene where he kills the guy on the subway, reminiscent and probably inspired by Jaws. But when you already know the werewolf is the main character, when you already saw him turn into it, and you barely see him in his wolf form after that. It's kinda harder to connect with his character. I also am not too big a fan of werewolves who just look like bigger regular wolves, dire werewolves, if you will. The beasts are more interesting when you can see the blend of their human structure whilst still very canine in their appearance, the bipedal kind. And no, not the stumpy faced werewolves from the old monster movies. I think it adds when you still see scraps of clothing on them too.
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Take this lego one for example. I remember hearing that this set was coming out in the early 2010s during the height of my monster phase. Werewolves? LEGOs? Awesome! I still have this guy, he sits on my SK bookshelf with my other LEGO monsters, including the creature from the Black Lagoon and Dr. Frankenstein and his Monster

Now in order to shoehorn this into the thread topic. Imagine a virus that turned people into animal monsters. Wouldn't that be wack? I Am Legend, but with werewolves, wowsers
 

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Ah, in this totally on-topic discussion about Coronavirus and not 50s monster b movies, or beavers, or whatever else. I bravely ventured into public for the first time in weeks for a couple minutes to visit the bank and shove all my cash into the atm. I usually prefer to carry cash but not like I'm going to any stores anywhere. Plus it's always handy to have more money to burn on video games in these times. I even got to wear a mask for those brave 6 minutes out of the car, my cousin's mom made everyone some. It felt like a soft Lenin cushion around your mouth, which is far more comfortable than most face masks.
 

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Ah, in this totally on-topic discussion about Coronavirus and not 50s monster b movies, or beavers, or whatever else. I bravely ventured into public for the first time in weeks for a couple minutes to visit the bank and shove all my cash into the atm. I usually prefer to carry cash but not like I'm going to any stores anywhere. Plus it's always handy to have more money to burn on video games in these times. I even got to wear a mask for those brave 6 minutes out of the car, my cousin's mom made everyone some. It felt like a soft Lenin cushion around your mouth, which is far more comfortable than most face masks.

Funny mask story:

A few weeks ago, when masks were hard(er) to find, I dug up some 3M dust masks at work and gave them to my father. The packages were sealed and had 5 masks in a package. Anyway, he ventured out to the grocery store and opened the package and put on a mask and went into the store. He said he was in the store and was having trouble breathing. He was getting a little concerned about his breathing difficulties and he checked the mask he was wearing. He discovered that he had 5 masks on. :) In the package I gave him, there were 5 masks and they were all nested together. He opened the package in his vehicle when it was still dark out and he didn't notice that there were 5. I guess it's a lot harder to breath through 5 dust masks at once. :)
 

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Funny mask story:

A few weeks ago, when masks were hard(er) to find, I dug up some 3M dust masks at work and gave them to my father. The packages were sealed and had 5 masks in a package. Anyway, he ventured out to the grocery store and opened the package and put on a mask and went into the store. He said he was in the store and was having trouble breathing. He was getting a little concerned about his breathing difficulties and he checked the mask he was wearing. He discovered that he had 5 masks on. :) In the package I gave him, there were 5 masks and they were all nested together. He opened the package in his vehicle when it was still dark out and he didn't notice that there were 5. I guess it's a lot harder to breath through 5 dust masks at once. :)
:laugh: what a sweetheart!
 

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When it comes to AWIL, the characters aren't fleshed out enough to make the drama that gripping. The film ends too abruptly. And asides from the incredible transformation scene that was way ahead of it's time, you don't get to see him as a werewolf too much after that. I know it's both for budgetary reasons, and I know there's the rule in horror where the more the monster is obscured, the scarier they are. But that doesn't work for all films, especially this one. I do like the cool first person scene where he kills the guy on the subway, reminiscent and probably inspired by Jaws. But when you already know the werewolf is the main character, when you already saw him turn into it, and you barely see him in his wolf form after that. It's kinda harder to connect with his character. I also am not too big a fan of werewolves who just look like bigger regular wolves, dire werewolves, if you will. The beasts are more interesting when you can see the blend of their human structure whilst still very canine in their appearance, the bipedal kind. And no, not the stumpy faced werewolves from the old monster movies. I think it adds when you still see scraps of clothing on them too.
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Take this lego one for example. I remember hearing that this set was coming out in the early 2010s during the height of my monster phase. Werewolves? LEGOs? Awesome! I still have this guy, he sits on my SK bookshelf with my other LEGO monsters, including the creature from the Black Lagoon and Dr. Frankenstein and his Monster

Now in order to shoehorn this into the thread topic. Imagine a virus that turned people into animal monsters. Wouldn't that be wack? I Am Legend, but with werewolves, wowsers
I have the same opinion on AWIL, I also thought it was abrupt and just ... meh.
 

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Just found a news article online from the state of Maine, yes, I'm getting suggestions for Visit Maine for some reason. It said that there is a couple who are so terrifeid of getting the Coronavirus that they refuse to hug. I searched the cases and fatalities, Maine has a population of about one point two million and they only have about a thousand cases of Covid-19 and fifty or so fatalities. And the fatality rate of the virus is incredibly small in younger people, so my question is, do you still not hug your wife?
 

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Funny mask story:

A few weeks ago, when masks were hard(er) to find, I dug up some 3M dust masks at work and gave them to my father. The packages were sealed and had 5 masks in a package. Anyway, he ventured out to the grocery store and opened the package and put on a mask and went into the store. He said he was in the store and was having trouble breathing. He was getting a little concerned about his breathing difficulties and he checked the mask he was wearing. He discovered that he had 5 masks on. :) In the package I gave him, there were 5 masks and they were all nested together. He opened the package in his vehicle when it was still dark out and he didn't notice that there were 5. I guess it's a lot harder to breath through 5 dust masks at once. :)
In the UK they have now made it compulasary that you have to wear a mask when you go out, ridiculous, would they not be better served going to the NHS?
 
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I know I'll probably get some "HAHAHA, Ed's in love with Dio" comments for saying this, but to heck with it. My opinion on this whole horror show has changed somewhat, I used to argue for total lockdown, as most will know. This has changed, there has been no proof, scientific proof, that social distancing and staying home makes any sort of difference, give me some scientific data and this might change. Like the aforementioned Dio was stating, I believe that places with small numbers of cases should not be in total lockdown, having a thousand cases does not justify shutting down a whole state, as is the case in Maine. Evin in California, residents are being refused access to parks and Church and only has about fourty five thousand cases, which is not much when compared to the total population of the state.
 
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Just found a news article online from the state of Maine, yes, I'm getting suggestions for Visit Maine for some reason. It said that there is a couple who are so terrifeid of getting the Coronavirus that they refuse to hug. I searched the cases and fatalities, Maine has a population of about one point two million and they only have about a thousand cases of Covid-19 and fifty or so fatalities. And the fatality rate of the virus is incredibly small in younger people, so my question is, do you still not hug your wife?
Maine has one of, if not the, oldest demographics in the US so there are a lot more people who are going to be in the higher risk category for a severe case if they become infected. Without testing, they don't know if they're asymptomatic. It's also not just about the fatality rate. The after-effects of the disease can cause some lingering serious health issues and no one knows yet if those will be permanent. So sure, you might (they don't know this with certainty either) get an immunity for COVID if you contract it and survive, but who would want to have a permanently compromised immune system that can make you vulnerable to other health issues.
 

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Maine has one of, if not the, oldest demographics in the US so there are a lot more people who are going to be in the higher risk category for a severe case if they become infected. Without testing, they don't know if they're asymptomatic. It's also not just about the fatality rate. The after-effects of the disease can cause some lingering serious health issues and no one knows yet if those will be permanent. So sure, you might (they don't know this with certainty either) get an immunity for COVID if you contract it and survive, but who would want to have a permanently compromised immune system that can make you vulnerable to other health issues.
I'm sure that the older population of Maine likely has an overall better health than most of the residents like say, my native UK. Just in comparison, the residents of Maine are likely to live longer when compared to over here, so this would suggest that they have an overall healthier population. And it's important to remember that Covid is not a fatal sentence to the elderly, there have been numerous stories of people in their hundreds defeating this virus, so it's not exactly comparable to the Black Plague of the thirteenth century. My original point was more or less pointing out the ridiculousness of a woman refusing to hug her husband becasue of Covid.
 
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I know I'll probably get some "HAHAHA, Ed's in love with Dio" comments for saying this, but to heck with it. My opinion on this whole horror show has changed somewhat, I used to argue for total lockdown, as most will know. This has changed, there has been no proof, scientific proof, that social distancing and staying home makes any sort of difference, give me some scientific data and this might change. Like the aforementioned Dio was stating, I believe that places with small numbers of cases should not be in total lockdown, having a thousand cases does not justify shutting down a whole state, as is the case in Maine. Evin in California, residents are being refused access to parks and Church and only has about fourty five thousand cases, which is not much when compared to the total population of the state.
BECAUSE those people could be asymptomatic and when they come into contact with other people, they are carriers infecting innocent people. Just yesterday in Bangor, Maine that has a population of approximately 32,000 people (not that big) but is still the third biggest city in Maine, there were 20 confirmed cases at a shelter and they're testing another 49 who have been in contact with them at the facility. Doesn't seem like a lot but if those 20 people were out and about because there were no social distancing measures in place, the number of people they could infect would skyrocket and UNNECESSARILY put a lot of people in danger. Maybe you could try reading some material from other sources.
 

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Just found a news article online from the state of Maine, yes, I'm getting suggestions for Visit Maine for some reason. It said that there is a couple who are so terrifeid of getting the Coronavirus that they refuse to hug. I searched the cases and fatalities, Maine has a population of about one point two million and they only have about a thousand cases of Covid-19 and fifty or so fatalities. And the fatality rate of the virus is incredibly small in younger people, so my question is, do you still not hug your wife?
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I'm sure that the older population of Maine likely has an overall better health than most of the residents like say, my native UK. Just in comparison, the residents of Maine are likely to live longer when compared to over here, so this would suggest that they have an overall healthier population. And it's important to remember that Covid is not a fatal sentence to the elderly, there have been numerous stories of people in their hundreds defeating this virus, so it's not exactly comparable to the Black Plague of the thirteenth century. My original point was more or less pointing out the ridiculousness of a woman refusing to hug her husband becasue of Covid.
And I answered your point. MAYBE the people are healthier, which is an assumption on your part from what I'm gathering, because they bother to take care of themselves and pay attention to precautions given by medical experts. At 20 you have a lot different attitude about mortality than you do when you get older. Are they being ridiculous or are they being cautious? WTF difference does it make? They're not telling everyone else that's what THEY have to do. It's what they've chosen to do to keep themselves healthy. Sort of like having their own opinion on the matter, don't you think?
 

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BECAUSE those people could be asymptomatic and when they come into contact with other people, they are carriers infecting innocent people. Just yesterday in Bangor, Maine that has a population of approximately 32,000 people (not that big) but is still the third biggest city in Maine, there were 20 confirmed cases at a shelter and they're testing another 49 who have been in contact with them at the facility. Doesn't seem like a lot but if those 20 people were out and about because there were no social distancing measures in place, the number of people they could infect would skyrocket and UNNECESSARILY put a lot of people in danger. Maybe you could try reading some material from other sources.
But that's the thing, like I was saying in the previous post, there is no Scientific Data which proves Social Distancing works, if fact, some reports suggest otherwise. There was a video on YouTube of several California Doctors who are actually involved in Covid hospitals discussing the actuality of what is really working when combating the disease, yet they were taken off of YouTube because they were quote on quote, generating false information, regardless of the fact that they are the ones actually on the ground. I would like to continue this conversation more, but like Steve says, GET TO STUDYING! (Aims Shotgun) :)
 
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And I answered your point. MAYBE the people are healthier, which is an assumption on your part from what I'm gathering, because they bother to take care of themselves and pay attention to precautions given by medical experts. At 20 you have a lot different attitude about mortality than you do when you get older. Are they being ridiculous or are they being cautious? WTF difference does it make? They're not telling everyone else that's what THEY have to do. It's what they've chosen to do to keep themselves healthy. Sort of like having their own opinion on the matter, don't you think?
Gotta study, Marsha! :) I'm one of the few people in this country who still has exams. :)
 
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